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[langelog]

I know it's possible to become the Viscount of Kirkwall, but I can't seem to do it and I'm a tad lazy. Does anyone know how to do it and would he or she be kind enough to share?

[MColes]

Side with the Templars

[GodBID]

Side with the templars and loose every aspect of your humanity by doing so.... >.<

[Lithuasil]

Think positive, it could be worse - you don't need to become a grey warden or submit to the qun

[langelog]

GodBID wrote...

Side with the templars and loose every aspect of your humanity by doing so.... >.<

Thanks, now that I know the price of becoming Viscount I think I'll pass. Mages deserve their freedom and the Chantry needs a Reformation.

[GodBID]

Lithuasil wrote...

Think positive, it could be worse - you don't need to become a grey warden or submit to the qun

Side with templars, drink poison or submit to the qun.... wow non of these choices are very good are they

[Lithuasil]

The difference being, siding with the templars won't kill you for sure, and the templars are the funny kind of retarded, not the dangerous one like the qunari - lesser evil and all that.

[TillyBomas]

Eh, I wished I could have joined the Quin. Now THAT would have been an awesome plot twist....

[GodBID]

TillyBomas wrote...

Eh, I wished I could have joined the Quin. Now THAT would have been an awesome plot twist....

Becoming a brain dead zombie would have been fun?, i mean that is essentially what the Qun is, they say jump, and you ask how high, It's a military state where no one thinks for em self, seems like a bad choice to me.

[Darkkyn46]

I'm no fan of the chantry, but mages are no better.   I don't actually see a "good" side in this game, just the evil one can tolerate more.  Besides the whole "you pushed me to this" argument by the mages is just whiny.  I also have an issue with the way Hawke is perceived.   By act 3you go talk to Cullen and he says you haven't been a friend to the templars, yet you roll up on any mage and they attack before giving you a chance to state your loyalty.  As if you reputation preceeded you.  If that were the case though, wouldn't the templars have a better opinion of you?

langelog wrote...

GodBID wrote...

Side with the templars and loose every aspect of your humanity by doing so.... >.<

Thanks, now that I know the price of becoming Viscount I think I'll pass. Mages deserve their freedom and the Chantry needs a Reformation.

[mnomaha]

Wait, wait, the only way to become Viscount is to support the Templars...so we get rewarded for killing the mages? And basically banishment if we side with the mages? WTH?

[TillyBomas]

GodBID wrote...

TillyBomas wrote...

Eh, I wished I could have joined the Quin. Now THAT would have been an awesome plot twist....

Becoming a brain dead zombie would have been fun?, i mean that is essentially what the Qun is, they say jump, and you ask how high, It's a military state where no one thinks for em self, seems like a bad choice to me.

Well, they have their own ideas and visions.  But have a solid foundation.  All the dealings I had with the Arishtok was civil, informitive, hell progressive.  Where as my interactions with mages and Templars, criminals, hell.. everyone in the game, was a blood bath.  

So, I can see the merit of the Certinty of the Qun, and frankly, with how they were treated, the city had it coming.  If I could have helped them, that would have made an interesting plot twist, and would have fit well with the end story.  Sure, would have ended the game a bit sooner... or changed it drastically.  But, why could the chaos not have been caused by the Qunari killing a load of Templars and Nobles before leaving, having found the book they were looking for, and then the mages revolt?  This causes the Chantry to fall apart? 

But again, it would have been an interesting concept. 

[Kaiser Shepard]

mnomaha wrote...

Wait, wait, the only way to become Viscount is to support the Templars...so we get rewarded for killing the mages? And basically banishment if we side with the mages? WTH?

Siding with the powers that be tends to have that effect, yeah.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 25 mars 2011 - 05:06 .

[mnomaha]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

Wait, wait, the only way to become Viscount is to support the Templars...so we get rewarded for killing the mages? And basically banishment if we side with the mages? WTH?

Siding with the powers that be tends to have that effect, yeah.

Well, ****, the powers the be suck.

[Pileyourbodies]

You kill less mages if you side with the templars....you'll lose your humanity far sooner if you side with the mages due to the fact that since at least half the mages are blood mages in kirkwall they'll mind contol you or you'll have a whole lot of abominations and demons coming after you for existing.

Mage supporters see only a small picture they refuse to open their eyes and look at the big picture of what siding with the mages actually means.

Getting off topic here the only way to become viscount is to support the templars and make nice to cullen.

[Vanaer]

I'd side with the templars any given day. Magic is disgusting.

[caelan63]

And here, I love magic.

I chose banishment over the headache!

[nubbers666]

langelog wrote...

GodBID wrote...

Side with the templars and loose every aspect of your humanity by doing so.... >.<

Thanks, now that I know the price of becoming Viscount I think I'll pass. Mages deserve their freedom and the Chantry needs a Reformation.

your not missing much trust me you still leave in the end<_<

[Lianaar]

I don't know, my mage was pro circle, since magic is dangerous. She did consider simply joining the circle herself. And she had a lot of reasons to side with the Templars
- her brother was a Templar, she didn't feel like killing him
- she knew someone in the circle supported Quentin who killed many women, including her mother
- many mages turned into abomination and quite a lot practiced blood magic (though not all)
- Meredith was insane, but that's one person. There were many other Templars, which were reasonable
- the Templars, that were willing to work against Meredith were killed by blood mages who abused their wish for peace
- the war was forced by a companion, a mage, so I felt responsible for the whole mess and didn't really see any other way of handling it
- if the mages win, then the Divine sends her knights for sure, if the Templars win, the town might be saved
- people will demand blood. Meredith was not incorrect in that.

My rouge saw it differently. But there are situations when siding with the Templars has logics.

[TanyaT]

ok sod becoming viscount then, no way am I siding with those oppressive bastards!
I shall always run away to Fereldon and take refuge with King Alistair

[CrimsonZephyr]

Wait, you actually WANT to be Viscount of that scum pit?

[Vicious]

People need to stop and think about what actually goes on in the story.

Joining the Templars means protecting the people. As Varric puts it at the end, 'protecting our way of life.' that is, protecting the common man.

That's why the people of Kirkwall demand Hawke as their viscount. Not because he slaughtered all the Mages [indeed he doesn't have to, the Mages that willingly surrender can be saved] but because he pretty much saves the city.


The fact that they will happily put an apostate [Hawke] on their throne is probably the best part.

[Rifneno]

Vicious wrote...

People need to stop and think about what actually goes on in the story.

Joining the Templars means protecting the people. As Varric puts it at the end, 'protecting our way of life.' that is, protecting the common man.

That's why the people of Kirkwall demand Hawke as their viscount. Not because he slaughtered all the Mages [indeed he doesn't have to, the Mages that willingly surrender can be saved] but because he pretty much saves the city.

  What a load.  The only way Hawke saves the city on the templar side is at the end when Eva Braun turns on him and he has to kill the real threat to Kirkwall to defend himself.

[Vicious]

Disliking it doesn't make it any less true. Champion the people or champion the Mages.

[Rifneno]

Vicious wrote...

isliking it doesn't make it any less true. Champion the people or champion the Mages.

You're right, not liking it doesn't make it not true.  The fact it's not true is what makes it not true.