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[riccaborto]

I think it is possible.

He/se COULD BE male or female, and human.

We know Morrigan is preparing the child to the "change" that is to come. Maybe the child is the one who can put things all right, and will have to face Flemeth.

"the entire world on the brink of war... and you need the one person who can help you put it back together"
... of course it is about Hawke, but could suit Morrigan's child... a person with GREAT POWER is needed to save the world... because very big things are gonna happen, as the Grey Wardens say in DA2.

Obviously this is MY idea...

[Eternal Phoenix]

I thought the child is not canon.

[erilben]

Morrigan says it's a boy.And she only has the baby if the player allowed it.

[riccaborto]

She could have the child anyway, she's a woman...

also I believe (not sure) she DOES have the child in some way even if the player don't want it... I didn't see every possible ending in Origins, but I think I red it somewhere...

[TheAwesomologist]

I think we'll see Morrigan's son, canon or not, but at best he'll be a companion/rival, not your hero. that said, I don't see it happening before DA4. Technically by the end of DA2 he'd only be 8-9 years old. May play a part in DA3 in that you'll probably do a quest for Morrigan or whatever.

Personally I figure Flemeth's plan is to steal the child from Morrigan (that is after all what she does best). Maybe that's how they'll involve the child in DA3?

[Edge2177]

I agree with Awesomo, he won't be the main character, but he will be influenced by the main character. We'll likely be able to turn him into a force for good or evil.

[MyKingdomCold]

yes, I can see it.

The warden disappeared, and if the warden was the father the child would be out looking for him because he wants to know why he was abandoned. Then they'll end up on some show like Dr. Phil or Oprah to discuss their feelings.

But wouldn't that limit the game even more in some ways? Morrigan said that she had a boy. So unless they totally ignore that, yes it's happened before, people couldn't play as a female.

[TheJediSaint]

Eh, I think the OGB is just something that my or may not come back to bite the Warden in the ass at a later date. I find it rather unlikely that he (as in WH the OGB is implied to be male) is likely to be a player character. My guess is the next player character will be much like Hawke, a player character custom built for whatever location Bioware chooses for the next Dragon Age.

[QwertyQwerty]

Can the child be dwarf if your Warden was a dwarf? Or maybe half dwarf?

[Rylor Tormtor]

Morrigan is crafty, I think Bioware could, very believably and with the usual level of disregard for player choices, have Morrigan conceive the god-child. Perhaps she found a way to simulate the effects of the taint (hehehehe... taint) and while the warden/loghain/alistair took the brunt of the arch-demon, she could have siphoned some off. There are other scenarios as well which allow for a flexibility.

[riccaborto]

WHEN does Morrigan say he's a "BOY" ?

I playied the game three times and I don't remeber it at all... She just says "the child"

[Arius23]

I don't want to play has the child, but I sure hope he's in it.

It's pretty much the only story arc in Dragon Age that I want to see concluded.

[MoogleNut]

riccaborto wrote...

WHEN does Morrigan say he's a "BOY" ?

I playied the game three times and I don't remeber it at all... She just says "the child"

When questioning her at the end of With Hunt, you can ask about the child to which she replies something along the lines of "He's fine".

[Icy Magebane]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the OGB is male.

[Clonedzero]

i hope they make the OGB canon. i know it'd upset tons of people who didnt do it. but thats such an interesting story thread that its gotta be followed up on. cutting that from being heavily included in future games because people were boring and decided to die instead is a mistake.

them tip-toeing around peoples DA:O possibilities really limits what they can do. bioware needs to man up and just say "look this is canon, we're sorry if it doesnt match up with your playthrough, but its what works best with the story so we're declaring this canon."

seriously though, why WOULDNT you have the OGB? seems silyl not to, its such a cool idea for a couple of lame peoples saves to ruin it.

[MKDAWUSS]

Elton John is dead wrote...

I thought the child is not canon.

Considering how retcon was the feature of the day in DA2, you never know now...

[Everwarden]

Elton John is dead wrote...

I thought the child is not canon.

David Gaider has altered the deal. Pray he does not alter it any further. 

[MisterJB]

Clonedzero wrote...

i hope they make the OGB canon. i know it'd upset tons of people who didnt do it. but thats such an interesting story thread that its gotta be followed up on. cutting that from being heavily included in future games because people were boring and decided to die instead is a mistake.

them tip-toeing around peoples DA:O possibilities really limits what they can do. bioware needs to man up and just say "look this is canon, we're sorry if it doesnt match up with your playthrough, but its what works best with the story so we're declaring this canon."

seriously though, why WOULDNT you have the OGB? seems silyl not to, its such a cool idea for a couple of lame peoples saves to ruin it.

While I agree that the OGB storyline is extremely interesting, if Bioware does what you're suggesting, it stops being Bioware and becomes Bethesda.
The import feature is something I absolutely love about Bioware's games and I would not see it removed.

[Emperor Iaius I]

Elton John is dead wrote...

I thought the child is not canon.

It's not canon, but it's equally not canonical that there was no ritual. But wait, you say, that makes no sense. Yeah, probably, it has to be one or the other but I think the idea the writers have is "for the moment, we're not binding ourselves that the ritual happened but if we want to then we might change our minds."

MisterJB: How so? Didn't one of the BG games feature the player as the spawn of some sort of god? Just because a few Elder Scrolls games have made the player some sort of destined hero doesn't mean it's a Bethesda thing. I mean, heck, I can think of one other very prominent Bioware game that had a similar idea, sort of. 

Modifié par Emperor Iaius I, 25 mars 2011 - 06:00 .

[TillyBomas]

Hell, Lilliana not dying seems to be canon, dispite the fact I killed her. So, while that did aggrivate me alittle, it wasn't like "Oscar Mike Foxtrot Golf!! THis game sucks!"

However, My primary save, I did not do the ritual (Mainly because I disliked MOrrigan in that save) and sacrificed myself. So, I am not sure what could be done but if the child IS canon, I wouldn't be surprised. I just think that if they are going to go with the 'import makes our games unique' then they should put more emphsis on it. Actually take the extra time to change things based on the Import.

[Beren082]

The child doesn't have to come from Morrigan. There are a number of forces in Thedas that seek a freed old god, not the least of which are the Architect, Flemeth, Tiventer, and so on. So, even if you didn't do the ritual with Morrigan, or you killed the Architect, there are still avenues that can lead to the old god, and are as numerous as the origin stories in DA:O. And, they would be the perfect PC in the next DA, as the possibilities are literally endless. And you start as a kid, barely out of the house, be it a secluded hut with Morrigan or Flemeth, an old ruin with the Architect, or a Tiventer estate. From there, you can grow to become a living god, and conceivably fudge the lines between classes, having abilities of mages, rogues, and warriors alike.\\

[LURadioDJ]

My first playthrough Alistair was in love with my Warden so even though he was king he sacrificed himself, in the epilogues the one for Morrigan mentioned that she was spotted heading toward Orlais with child.

So I know that it happens whether we like it or not........I'm pretty close to another playthrough that I was finishing up so when I finish DA2, I'll finish that and see if I'm right that sans ritual that Morrigan still conceives.

[AlexXIV]

It's possible, but unlikely. For various reasons I am sure will all be mentioned in this thread.

[Saberchic]

I always figured that if the ritual wasn't performed, then Morrigan found some other new warden and performed the ritual at a later date. Also, Beren's theory about the OGB not having to come from Morrigan is also plausible. There are many avenues in which the OGB can exist. Therefore, the ritual doesn't have to be canon. :-)

[Dangerfoot]

riccaborto wrote...

She could have the child anyway, she's a woman...

also I believe (not sure) she DOES have the child in some way even if the player don't want it... I didn't see every possible ending in Origins, but I think I red it somewhere...

Yes, she is a woman... and women don't naturally have god babies. You do realize that she needed the ritual, a warden to impregnate her, and the death of the arch demon, right? How exactly is she going to "just do it anyway" if she missed her chance, what's more WHY would she want to just do it anyway? She only came up with the idea to protect the Warden, she showed no real interest in having a god baby just for the sake of it.

I hope to god they don't make the OGB canon, that would just be the last straw in their choiceless new world.