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[DarthVadoc]

This has been bugging me for a while. Overlord/Stolen Memory/Price of Revenge can all be completed before you touch down on Horizon. LoTSB is the only one which can only be completed after Horizon (for obvious reasons) Either it was intended to be played after the SM like LoTSB or it's got something to do with the VS. If the VS was to be in Arrival then it would make sense that Arrival is set AFTER the reunion and not BEFORE.

Maybe i'm just clutching at straws but it does seem weird that this is the LAST story driven DLC for ME2 and if the VS wasn't included or mentioned then it would be a bit off.

Anyway Tuesday can't come quick enough for me lol.

[Rivercurse]

Why can we play arrival before the suicide mission?

[Fiery Phoenix]

Rivercurse wrote...

Why can we play arrival before the suicide mission?

This.

/thread

[DarthVadoc]

LoTSB was accessible after Horizon and could be played before the SM or after. If Liara wasn't involved in LoTSB then it would have been made available BEFORE Horizon. There must be a reason why we can't do Arrival after Freedoms Progress.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Honestly, doing Arrival at ANY point prior to the suicide mission would, in my opinion, mess up the ongoing story and its progression. For a start, consider the brief cutscene at the very end of the game and associate it with Arrival when done before the suicide mission.

[DarthVadoc]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Honestly, doing Arrival at ANY point prior to the suicide mission would, in my opinion, mess up the ongoing story and its progression. For a start, consider the brief cutscene at the very end of the game and associate it with Arrival when done before the suicide mission.

Fair point but it still doesn't explain why it's meant to be played after Horizon before or after the SM. It does make sense for it to be played after the SM but why not have it unlock after the SM instead of before? Overlord isn't major in terms of story and it doesn't feature any returning characters unlike LoTSB.

There must be a reason why it's unlocked after Horizon and not after finishing the SM. LoTSB was intended to be played post SM and Arrival looks like it is too but it still doesn't make sense why it's not available to the players pre Horizon unless the VS was involved in someway.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I do not suppose there is any in-game reason for that. The majority of the game opens up after Horizon anyway, so why wouldn't Arrival be part of that?

[Leonia]

As much as I would like to see it be unlockable only after the SM, it makes sense with DLCs to allow the player the option to play earlier so they can still do any side quests or other content before the final mission. Not everyone wants to play the entire game before getting their hands on some juicy new content (though I don't understand why anyone wouldn't have a complete playthrough of ME2 by now). Story-wise it makes sense post-SM but gameplay-wise they don't want to restrict player options.

[DarthVadoc]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I do not suppose there is any in-game reason for that. The majority of the game opens up after Horizon anyway, so why wouldn't Arrival be part of that?

Overlord can be done in the first half of the game and so can Zaeed's/Kasumi's Loyalty mission. The only way they can be completed in the first half of the game is because there have no relevance to the rest of the ME2 story but LotSB does plus it includes Liara so it makes sense that it's only available after Horizon because that's when you meet up with Liara in the second part of the game.

I have no doubt that arrival would of been available post Freedoms Progress if it was not for some connection to the VS. It would be pretty dumb to play Arrival before landing on horizon if that was the case. Anyway all this speculation is making me even more hyped for Arrival

[Fiery Phoenix]

Let me just say that I hope you're right!

[DarthVadoc]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Let me just say that I hope you're right!

I hope so :happy:

[Kasper Finknottle]

Maybe it's also a matter of character level? Try it too early and you end up with Batarians standing on your face again and again.

[royceclemens]

It's the Xbox disc change. I don't think you can access Arrival before Horizon because the location isn't on disc one.

[Thompson family]

DarthVadoc wrote...

Maybe i'm just clutching at straws but it does seem weird ...

Without sarcasm, DarthVadoc -- yeah, that's a pretty thin reed you've got there. I think the wait for Tuesday has a lot of us a little frayed.

[DarthVadoc]

royceclemens wrote...

It's the Xbox disc change. I don't think you can access Arrival before Horizon because the location isn't on disc one.

Ah yes, that is a probability i completely overlooked that Anyway i hope it's a lot more complicated than that

[Robhuzz]

@DarthVadoc

How do you even know arrival can be played before the suicide mission? Is it in the arrival footage that went public recently (yesterday I think)

I did not (and will not) watch it to avoid spoilers naturally

Modifié par Robhuzz, 25 mars 2011 - 04:12 .

[DarthVadoc]

Robhuzz wrote...

@OP

How do you even know arrival can be played before the suicide mission? Is it in the arrival footage that went public recently (yesterday I think)

I did not (and will not) watch it to avoid spoilers naturally

It is. it's stated that it can be played anytime after Horizon.

[Emperor Mars]

I wish bioware would go ahead and confirm whether or not the VS is in the DLC....all this speculation is driving me nuts..
But yeah as to why it takes place post horizon it would make sense if the VS is involved in the mission...but...you know what..I actually cannot think of any other story based reason for it it be placed after horizon.

[Ty2011]

Who cares? Just play it and enjoy it.

[Guanxii]

Maybe it uses objects, textures, etc stored on [xbox] disc two... or maybe Hackett mentions Ashley/Kaidan/Horizon during the dlc. Perhaps Ash/Kaidan ask Hackett to deliver a message to Shepard.

Or perhaps there is [small] virmire survivor bonus content that Arrival unlocks only available to those who pursued a relationship with Ashley or Kaidan. It's possible... could just be another lousy email. Most people including reviewers wouldn't have any knowledge of it.

Maybe Ash might finally send Shepard a vid-mail... a raunchy one maybe?

Modifié par Guanxii, 25 mars 2011 - 05:23 .

[II J0SePh X II]

It would still be dumb if the VS was in it and you could do Arrival before the SM.

[Gentleman Moogle]

*post edited because the author forgot he was in a No-Spoiler zone*

Modifié par Gentleman Moogle, 25 mars 2011 - 06:02 .

[JKoopman]

Emperor Mars wrote...

I wish bioware would go ahead and confirm whether or not the VS is in the DLC....all this speculation is driving me nuts..
But yeah as to why it takes place post horizon it would make sense if the VS is involved in the mission...but...you know what..I actually cannot think of any other story based reason for it it be placed after horizon.

BioWare did confirm in the 10-minute GameSpot preview that the VS would, in fact, NOT make an appearance in Arrival.

[CroGamer002]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Rivercurse wrote...

Why can we play arrival before the suicide mission?

This.

/thread

+1

[xlI ReFLeX lIx]

Edit: Oopss. Right, no spoilers

Modifié par xlI ReFLeX lIx, 25 mars 2011 - 07:49 .