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#176
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Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Okay...

wait wait wait...

So... What you're saying... Is that it's cheaper (CHEAPER, mind you)... To hire completely new voice actors... Create completely new character designs... And put completely new characters -- at least six of 'em -- into the game's plot... AND pay the old voice actors to do cameo appearances...

Than to just keep the same characters from the original two games.

... Am I the only one seeing this? This isn't just me, is it?


No, this has been brought up to him before... :pinched:

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Bioware did it with ME2 and DA2. Oh wait, of course you would ignore those facts since they tear apart your trolling attempts. Now leave if you don't wish to debate like adults or contribute to the Topic. Your trolling attempts are quite boresome, pathetic, and weak.

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Bioware pretty much ignores Anders' dying, or Leliana dying.

Probably some other deaths.

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Phaedon wrote...

Yeah, the expense thing kinda died when someone brought up how true/false flags worked.

Now the new argument is that it's unfair to the people with only 2 survivors or that it would be better story-wise to have new characters or something.


I thought you were out or do you make a habit of making baseless claims? Either contribute to the Topic or leave like you lied and said that you would. I'm waiting for you to actually do as you say you would do.

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mrsph wrote...

Bioware pretty much ignores Anders' dying, or Leliana dying.

Probably some other deaths.


It was said the Leliana ignored death was a bug along with Zevran while Anders death was explained that he merged with Justice. It was a coop out but they explained it without retconning anything. Whether Anders died or not doesn't matter since he will always merges with Justice a party member that must join you and and always abandons the dead Warden's body in the end anyway.

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Elite Midget wrote...
I thought you were out or do you make a habit of making baseless claims? Either contribute to the Topic or leave like you lied and said that you would. I'm waiting for you to actually do as you say you would do.

I was responding to Gentleman Moogle?

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You said you were out. You lied and that's your excuse? Either do as you say and leave or be an adult and actually contribute to this Topic. I'm also not phased by your arrogance and trolling attempts as well as your outright lies. Hell, you could have easily PMed the guy but instead you decided to do it here for trolling purposes.

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Elite Midget wrote...

You said you were out. You lied and that's your excuse? Either do as you say and leave or be an adult and actually contribute to this Topic. I'm also not phased by your arrogance and trolling attempts as well as your outright lies. Hell, you could have easily PMed the guy but instead you decided to do it here for trolling purposes.


I need a black kettle of some sort.

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Oh, how so? When have I ever lied, especially in this Topic? I always deliver when I say I would. Don't tell me you approve of their trolling attempts and off topic posting?

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Elite Midget wrote...

You said you were out. You lied and that's your excuse? Either do as you say and leave or be an adult and actually contribute to this Topic. I'm also not phased by your arrogance and trolling attempts as well as your outright lies. Hell, you could have easily PMed the guy but instead you decided to do it here for trolling purposes.


Roflmao, dude can pop in and out the thread as much as he wants - go ahead - report him.  Gawd this is hilarious.  Do you get kicked around at school a lot?

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Riiiiight. No, you're totally correct. The fact that Garrus and Tali were fully-voice and playable companions in Mass Effect 2 was just something I dreamed up in a drug-fueled hallucination after one too many Buds.

And the fact that we played with Liara in LOTSB was another hallucination, this one brought on by huffing glue. I really need to stop that I guess.

And, of course, the "Well they did it here" argument totally doesn't just skip over the fact that it would still be more expensive to bring in completely new characters than it would be to just re-use the same characters and maybe add in one or two others to offset those players who imported a save with dead team mates.

And... let's be honest here. Who ISN'T going to have at least one save where everyone lives? Seriously, you have to WORK to get even one or two squaddies killed. EVERYone is goign to have a saved game where all squaddies survive, so Bioware can rest assured that everyone is going to have a chance to see all the content they put in. And those that import a save without some squaddies? I believe the phrase is 'tough beans'. they can play through it without 'em for a different experience, or they can go back and do it right.

And to balance out the un-funny nature of that last paragraph; I will now yank down my trousers and moon the internet.

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Another post that doesn't contribute and is a trolling attempt? Why am I not surprised?

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Elite Midget wrote...
I thought you were out or do you make a habit of making baseless claims? Either contribute to the Topic or leave like you lied and said that you would. I'm waiting for you to actually do as you say you would do.


You are essentially yelling at him for stuff that you do. All the time.

Thus, I require a black kettle.

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mrsph wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...
I thought you were out or do you make a habit of making baseless claims? Either contribute to the Topic or leave like you lied and said that you would. I'm waiting for you to actually do as you say you would do.


You are essentially yelling at him for stuff that you do. All the time.

Thus, I require a black kettle.


Would you accept a charcoal-gray kettle?

#190
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Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Riiiiight. No, you're totally correct. The fact that Garrus and Tali were fully-voice and playable companions in Mass Effect 2 was just something I dreamed up in a drug-fueled hallucination after one too many Buds.

And the fact that we played with Liara in LOTSB was another hallucination, this one brought on by huffing glue. I really need to stop that I guess.

And, of course, the "Well they did it here" argument totally doesn't just skip over the fact that it would still be more expensive to bring in completely new characters than it would be to just re-use the same characters and maybe add in one or two others to offset those players who imported a save with dead team mates.

And... let's be honest here. Who ISN'T going to have at least one save where everyone lives? Seriously, you have to WORK to get even one or two squaddies killed. EVERYone is goign to have a saved game where all squaddies survive, so Bioware can rest assured that everyone is going to have a chance to see all the content they put in. And those that import a save without some squaddies? I believe the phrase is 'tough beans'. they can play through it without 'em for a different experience, or they can go back and do it right.

And to balance out the un-funny nature of that last paragraph; I will now yank down my trousers and moon the internet.

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QFT.

I was gonna call you out on that unfunny, I was going to report you to the unfunny police.  They were on lunch break with the library police, so it gave me some time to read down to the moon.  That was funny.  You came this close mister... :P

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Trying to talk like you're high and mighty? Okay than, 'hot stuff' let me tear your weak arguement apart since I'm have a brain which I plan to use. Il'l even space it out so you can't miss these easy and simple points that're common sense to anyone with a working brain.

Tali and Garrus couldn't Die in ME1.

Liara was only a Temp Squaddie in ME2. She was still fully voiced, had a unique model, and the such.

VS was fully voiced and had a model in ME2 and was only a cameo.

Wrex was fully voiced and had a model in ME2 and was only a cameo.

There, your arguement has been met.

Your expensive arguement fails because Bioware has a history of doing such and such. Hell, I just listed prime ME exclusive examples. Though knowing you you'll pretend those don't exist either like all your other trolling attempts.

A lot of people wont. You seem to forget that the Casuals are the Majority and the Hardcores are the Minority. You also forget that Casuals, in the statistics, usually only have one playthrough and they're done. I'm sorry but Bioware is going to appease the most Fans they can and the Casuals are the 'most'. Thus they wont punish Casuals by removing Squaddies for ME3 just because they didn't replay ME2 over again to get the Perfect Save.

To balance out your personal attack against me I say this. You aren't amusing, taking classes if you wish to troll better.

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mrsph wrote...

You are essentially yelling at him for stuff that you do. All the time.

Thus, I require a black kettle.


So you've joined their ranks? I'm not surprised at this turn of events. Either contribute or leave.

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It's kind of hard to contribute when every attempt to refute your claims is either ignored or refused without evidence.

Case in point. "They did it in DA2" "Yes but DA2 is not a direct sequel to DAO, featuring a different main character in a totally unreleated plot in a totally different location" ......."They did it in DA2"

WTF you just totally ignored him. You are the one trolling. All you do is tell people they are wrong, and to get out of your topic if they don't want to contribute. Contribute being something you won't allow because you just repeat the same arguement over and over as if it's fact and ignore or deny any claims to the contrary. That's not debate. That's being a jackass.

Either you are just trying to get a rise out of people. Or you really want everyone to leave the topic so you can feel some kind of victory to increase your internet status. Which means you must be a very very sad person.

So again, we repeat. By all means call a mod in here. I think they'll have a bit to say here.

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I've never joined anyone's "ranks"

I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.

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Oh darn. I'm not funny.

I guess i'll have to go kill myself now out of shame. Anybody got a sepukku dagger I can borrow?

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Also, I find it absolutely stonking hilarious that you get all miffed when someone talks to you in the same tone you talk to everyone else. Mrsph, lemme have that kettle when you're done with it, will ya?

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Elite Midget wrote...

Trying to talk like you're high and mighty? Okay than, 'hot stuff' let me tear your weak arguement apart since I'm have a brain which I plan to use. Il'l even space it out so you can't miss these easy and simple points that're common sense to anyone with a working brain.

Tali and Garrus couldn't Die in ME1.

Liara was only a Temp Squaddie in ME2. She was still fully voiced, had a unique model, and the such.

VS was fully voiced and had a model in ME2 and was only a cameo.

Wrex was fully voiced and had a model in ME2 and was only a cameo.

There, your arguement has been met.

Your expensive arguement fails because Bioware has a history of doing such and such. Hell, I just listed prime ME exclusive examples. Though knowing you you'll pretend those don't exist either like all your other trolling attempts.

A lot of people wont. You seem to forget that the Casuals are the Majority and the Hardcores are the Minority. You also forget that Casuals, in the statistics, usually only have one playthrough and they're done. I'm sorry but Bioware is going to appease the most Fans they can and the Casuals are the 'most'. Thus they wont punish Casuals by removing Squaddies for ME3 just because they didn't replay ME2 over again to get the Perfect Save.

To balance out your personal attack against me I say this. You aren't amusing, taking classes if you wish to troll better.


There must be an awfully huge pole up your ass.

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Of course I refute. It's a debate not me bowing down to your views when the facts say otherwise.

They also did it for ME2 or did you forget that part as well?

Contributeing means debateing. Or do you honestly see all of Panda's post and Faces post as contributeing posts? If so than there's no point talking to you. Either you call it out on both sides or you keep your mouth closed.

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Gentleman Moogle wrote...

Oh darn. I'm not funny.

I guess i'll have to go kill myself now out of shame. Anybody got a sepukku dagger I can borrow?


You can use mine, but ONLY after I've used it first.

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So wait... I've got a troll... Calling me a Troll... But I am trolling him... But he's a troll... so we're both trolling each other...

...

I think we've hit some kind of troll singularity here.