Black Ops is rated M...........Guess there aren't any teens playing that game then.. I'm sure that was not a big christmas seller.
Modifié par DrGulag, 26 mars 2011 - 12:13 .
djackson75 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
Pokemon is japan's Call of Duty.. Anything with "Poke" in Japan is going to sell truckloads.
And I didn't know that people only buy gifts for children over the Christmas holiday. I guess I should ask my wife for a second copy of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.. Because she supposedly got me that for Christmas, but obviously, that isn't the case.
Most of the Xmas sales are not in 18 R games. But if it makes you happy, think whatever you like. Biowares goal with DA2 was to reach the mass market. Goal failed.
Two....weeks.......
BobSmith101 wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
Pokemon is japan's Call of Duty.. Anything with "Poke" in Japan is going to sell truckloads.
And I didn't know that people only buy gifts for children over the Christmas holiday. I guess I should ask my wife for a second copy of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.. Because she supposedly got me that for Christmas, but obviously, that isn't the case.
Most of the Xmas sales are not in 18 R games. But if it makes you happy, think whatever you like. Biowares goal with DA2 was to reach the mass market. Goal failed.
Two....weeks.......
So ? If it can't make an impact after 2 weeks it's not going to have mass market appeal. When it comes to the mass market there is always something shiny next release day.
Amazon already did a $20 price reduction.
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
I've never seen so many people citing VGChartz in my life. Why? Can't we wait until an actual source with some credibility releases some data.
People are jumping on any and every chance to show DA2 as inferior.. There's irony in the fact that the data that is being cited for failure is prooving success.
I don't see it proving any success either. The thing keeping me from saying it has sold well outside of pre-order sales is the fact that EA's been utterly silent which is contrary to their usual appraoch when things go their way. You want to get the good news out there to drive up your stock prices and get some more investors on board, especially with their fiscal year ending this month. Can't call it a comercial failure but I wouldn't call it a success right now either.
They did a ONE FREAKING DAY price reduction... They have done that with EVERY SINGLE MAJOR RELEASE they have had... THEY DO THAT ALL THE TIME...BobSmith101 wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
Pokemon is japan's Call of Duty.. Anything with "Poke" in Japan is going to sell truckloads.
And I didn't know that people only buy gifts for children over the Christmas holiday. I guess I should ask my wife for a second copy of Assassin's Creed Brotherhood.. Because she supposedly got me that for Christmas, but obviously, that isn't the case.
Most of the Xmas sales are not in 18 R games. But if it makes you happy, think whatever you like. Biowares goal with DA2 was to reach the mass market. Goal failed.
Two....weeks.......
So ? If it can't make an impact after 2 weeks it's not going to have mass market appeal. When it comes to the mass market there is always something shiny next release day.
Amazon already did a $20 price reduction.
Sacred_Fantasy wrote...
Total copies sales worlwide:
X360: 521,405
PS3: 224,620
PC : 181,832
PC sales for 2nd week 27,446 compare to 89,198 on first week. I think digital download probably do much better.
not that i do
Modifié par ginzaen, 26 mars 2011 - 12:16 .
It is a rated M game that came out during the holiday season.... someone said that Dragon Age Origins coming out during the holiday season was meaningless because it was an M rated game, and sales weren't effected because of that.DrGulag wrote...
Black Ops is rated M...........Guess there aren't any teens playing that game then.. I'm sure that was not a big christmas seller.
Now you are just being silly.
Lets not bring Black Ops or Modern Warfare into this discussion, because that's a different animal altogether,
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
I've never seen so many people citing VGChartz in my life. Why? Can't we wait until an actual source with some credibility releases some data.
People are jumping on any and every chance to show DA2 as inferior.. There's irony in the fact that the data that is being cited for failure is prooving success.
I don't see it proving any success either. The thing keeping me from saying it has sold well outside of pre-order sales is the fact that EA's been utterly silent which is contrary to their usual appraoch when things go their way. You want to get the good news out there to drive up your stock prices and get some more investors on board, especially with their fiscal year ending this month. Can't call it a comercial failure but I wouldn't call it a success right now either.
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
ginzaen wrote...
Sacred_Fantasy wrote...
Total copies sales worlwide:
X360: 521,405
PS3: 224,620
PC : 181,832
PC sales for 2nd week 27,446 compare to 89,198 on first week. I think digital download probably do much better.
most sites don't tend to include digital downloads does this one?
I think some gamers also wait for ultimate editions nowadays as it's a lot cheaper then buying the game+expansion and the dlc.
Persephone wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
I've never seen so many people citing VGChartz in my life. Why? Can't we wait until an actual source with some credibility releases some data.
People are jumping on any and every chance to show DA2 as inferior.. There's irony in the fact that the data that is being cited for failure is prooving success.
I don't see it proving any success either. The thing keeping me from saying it has sold well outside of pre-order sales is the fact that EA's been utterly silent which is contrary to their usual appraoch when things go their way. You want to get the good news out there to drive up your stock prices and get some more investors on board, especially with their fiscal year ending this month. Can't call it a comercial failure but I wouldn't call it a success right now either.
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Good points. I wonder about EA's silence too however. Weren't they rather quick with sharing ME2's great sales?
djackson75 wrote...
Persephone wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
I've never seen so many people citing VGChartz in my life. Why? Can't we wait until an actual source with some credibility releases some data.
People are jumping on any and every chance to show DA2 as inferior.. There's irony in the fact that the data that is being cited for failure is prooving success.
I don't see it proving any success either. The thing keeping me from saying it has sold well outside of pre-order sales is the fact that EA's been utterly silent which is contrary to their usual appraoch when things go their way. You want to get the good news out there to drive up your stock prices and get some more investors on board, especially with their fiscal year ending this month. Can't call it a comercial failure but I wouldn't call it a success right now either.
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Good points. I wonder about EA's silence too however. Weren't they rather quick with sharing ME2's great sales?
With all the bad press about banning accounts, workers writing positive reviews, and auto attack issues, if I was running EA, I would shut up too for a few weeks. EA probably won't say a word until the first patch is out, and there's about a month gone by.
djackson75 wrote...
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Modifié par TheMadCat, 26 mars 2011 - 12:23 .
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Sure, but don't see why you bother doing so. Trying to squash ignorance with ignorance doesn't seem to be the optimal route to take in an argument. And I wouldn't say a looooooooooooooooong time. EA's going to have to give some estimates sooner rather then later otherwise that stock value starts sinking like a rock (They don't like failed AAA titles on Wall Street), look what Homefronts early reviews did to THQ's stock and it's actually sold quite well. If we don't hear anything by March 31st stating otherwise, I'll start leaning towards "Not what EA was hoping for".
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Sure, but don't see why you bother doing so. Trying to squash ignorance with ignorance doesn't seem to be the optimal route to take in an argument. And I wouldn't say a looooooooooooooooong time. EA's going to have to give some estimates sooner rather then later otherwise that stock value starts sinking like a rock (They don't like failed AAA titles on Wall Street), look what Homefronts early reviews did to THQ's stock and it's actually sold quite well. If we don't hear anything by March 31st stating otherwise, I'll start leaning towards "Not what EA was hoping for".
ginzaen wrote...
Sacred_Fantasy wrote...
Total copies sales worlwide:
X360: 521,405
PS3: 224,620
PC : 181,832
PC sales for 2nd week 27,446 compare to 89,198 on first week. I think digital download probably do much better.
most sites don't tend to include digital downloads does this one?
I think some gamers also wait for ultimate editions nowadays as it's a lot cheaper then buying the game+expansion and the dlc.
BeljoraDien wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Sure, but don't see why you bother doing so. Trying to squash ignorance with ignorance doesn't seem to be the optimal route to take in an argument. And I wouldn't say a looooooooooooooooong time. EA's going to have to give some estimates sooner rather then later otherwise that stock value starts sinking like a rock (They don't like failed AAA titles on Wall Street), look what Homefronts early reviews did to THQ's stock and it's actually sold quite well. If we don't hear anything by March 31st stating otherwise, I'll start leaning towards "Not what EA was hoping for".
So... Short EA?
TheMadCat wrote...
BeljoraDien wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
djackson75 wrote...
My whole point is that it's only been two weeks, so how this ends up is an unknown. I wasn't trying to proove it was a success, I was trying to show the people who want it to be a failure...oh wait, excuse me... the people who are citing it as a failure... that using the numbers that are out does not support their negative argument... Right now, the numbers can be spun any way anyone wants them to.. It's toooooooooooooooo soon to tell... The real answer to this question won't be known for a looooooooooong time.
Sure, but don't see why you bother doing so. Trying to squash ignorance with ignorance doesn't seem to be the optimal route to take in an argument. And I wouldn't say a looooooooooooooooong time. EA's going to have to give some estimates sooner rather then later otherwise that stock value starts sinking like a rock (They don't like failed AAA titles on Wall Street), look what Homefronts early reviews did to THQ's stock and it's actually sold quite well. If we don't hear anything by March 31st stating otherwise, I'll start leaning towards "Not what EA was hoping for".
So... Short EA?
Eh?
BeljoraDien wrote...
You were talking about stocks... It's a common trader's term... Nevermind.
TheMadCat wrote...
BeljoraDien wrote...
You were talking about stocks... It's a common trader's term... Nevermind.
Oh, alright. Didn't really expect someone here to make that kind of remark. Though I'm a bit confused as to why you're asking me about short selling EA, or is there another meaning for short I;m not aware of?
F-C wrote...
TheMadCat wrote...
BeljoraDien wrote...
You were talking about stocks... It's a common trader's term... Nevermind.
Oh, alright. Didn't really expect someone here to make that kind of remark. Though I'm a bit confused as to why you're asking me about short selling EA, or is there another meaning for short I;m not aware of?
if you expect the stock to drop, as you were posting earlier, wouldnt shorting them be the intelligent thing to do?
you were talking about money after all.
Modifié par TheMadCat, 26 mars 2011 - 01:18 .
The OP doesn't mention the game being bad because it's not selling well. We already know DA2 is bad regardless of sales.Pacifien wrote...
Grim Fandango didn't sell very well either, which is how I know that it was an awful game. It shames me to this day that I enjoyed it so very much when its lack of sales is a constant reminder that I am wrong to do so.
Modifié par Shirosaki17, 26 mars 2011 - 01:33 .
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