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[Phaedon]

From the livestream chat. Some interesting things there, if you are patient enough and observant enough to notice them.



Erica: So,I think this is our last question… How many storyline choices are there, and how do you keep them organized, to follow the same path, whilst keeping to interesting plotpoints, like character deaths, killing, saving (or perhaps shaving ) someone, saving, destroying something… Keygan wants to know.

 Mac: All right, I almost answered that question before we got to it.

-laughter- 

Well, like I said, the beginning part of that is a lot hair-pulling and planning where you just got to have spreadsheets, and things like that, to keep track of ‘Okay, what do we do in Mass Effect 2? Who died, who is alive? Anyone know? Oh wait, those people could be dead, they could be alive, obviously this is one of the interesting things we are struggling with now.

 We created a scenario at the end of Mass Effect 2, where, any and all of your henchmen could die! And we know that they are important characters, so, how do you deal with that in Mass Effect 3?

 Do we just say ‘NOBODY IS COMING BACK’?

 
‘I didn’t say that!’

 -laughter-

 Mac: Or… do we say, yep, they are coming back, they are alive, how do you handle that?

 And all of the different combinations and limitations… So as far as how many choices are there?

You know, it’s endless, how many there are.

 And really, what you kinda have to do is, you have to pick your battles, cause, there’s a lot of, you know, smaller plots and smaller characters, and you would have treated them in different ways because the choices are a big thing that we push in our games.

 So sometimes, we can reference that and do it in the next game, we did a lot in Mass Effect 2, with some of the lighter characters, but you obviously can’t have everyone, so, a lot of times we rely on our own understanding of the game, and what we think that is important, what are the things we are looking for.

 But, we use our fans a lot, our community. We know by the polls –there are sometimes polls on the website-, we know who the popular characters are, who people want to see come back, and so sometimes, you’ll think,

 ‘Wow, I wrote that as a minor character for fun, but people are really interested about knowing more about themselves, so can we bring them back?', and if they are alive, well we do.

 Erica: Awesome, that’s pretty cool.

Recorded stream here, starts at about 30:15.

Modifié par Phaedon, 25 mars 2011 - 08:00 .

[Almostfaceman]

 Well done.  Seems obvious to me that they are bringing characters back, as I've speculated here and here.  

[CoolioThane]

oh Erica

On topic, I reckon that any characters that were not popular from the last games and any squad mates that had reason to leave after the SM will...

So Samara will not come back, Grunt won't come back, Kasumi and Zaeed won't...Thane could be dead for other reasons if he survived the SM...

Garrus better be, Tali better be, hope Jacob doesn't, hope Thane comes back along with Legion and Mordin, but don't really care about the others that much

I want back: Garrus, Mordin, Tali, Thane, Legion

Don't really care if the others bugger off

[Whatever42]

My impression there is that the main characters are coming back and that they are picking which minor characters are coming back based on fan popularity.

Yeah, I know he didn't say that but he sure insisted that he wasn't saying that they weren't.

[CroGamer002]

Some of them are coming back as squadmates, that's something.


For Kasumi I don't expect more then an email while Zaeed might get a cameo and maybe side quest to do for him and if got left behind in LM he tries to kill you.

[Razagon]

I think that squadmates returning will be the brightest moment of Bioware.

[samuraix87]

i see zaeed being the leader of the blue suns if u killed vido and will bring the blue suns to sheps aid when he needs it

[Phaedon]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

My impression there is that the main characters are coming back and that they are picking which minor characters are coming back based on fan popularity.

Yeah, I know he didn't say that but he sure insisted that he wasn't saying that they weren't.

That was my impression as well, though there's a good chance only certain squaddies will return.

[Razagon]

Phaedon wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

My impression there is that the main characters are coming back and that they are picking which minor characters are coming back based on fan popularity.

Yeah, I know he didn't say that but he sure insisted that he wasn't saying that they weren't.

That was my impression as well, though there's a good chance only certain squaddies will return.

I suppose you can't have them all back. Having all ME1 and ME2 squadmates with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.

[Almostfaceman]

Phaedon wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

My impression there is that the main characters are coming back and that they are picking which minor characters are coming back based on fan popularity.

Yeah, I know he didn't say that but he sure insisted that he wasn't saying that they weren't.

That was my impression as well, though there's a good chance only certain squaddies will return.

Agreed.  I speculate Zaeed and Kasumi won't be squaddies simply because fans don't get to "know them" like any of the others. 

[Phaedon]

with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.

But do we really need new squadmates in ME3?

Modifié par Phaedon, 25 mars 2011 - 08:11 .

[Whatever42]

Phaedon wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

My impression there is that the main characters are coming back and that they are picking which minor characters are coming back based on fan popularity.

Yeah, I know he didn't say that but he sure insisted that he wasn't saying that they weren't.

That was my impression as well, though there's a good chance only certain squaddies will return.

 
Probably. That will be tricky, though. If I survived with Grunt, Samara, and Thane and you survived with Tali, Garrus, and Miranda and they yank all the non-LIs, for example, then suddenly I lose 2/3rds of my survivors and you lose none. I imagine Mac has a lot to wrestle with there.

I do agree with those who think that at the very least Kasumi and Zaeed are gone.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 25 mars 2011 - 08:11 .

[Wittand25]

Ok nowhere in this transcript says that squad member will be back as squad members or even as NPCs. Please read it carefully.

Some characters will be back. We knew that.
Some of the squad-members of ME1 and 2 will play an important role in ME3. We suspected that.

So there is no new information and especially no confirmation here. So it is in your best interest to lower your expectations unless you want to be severely disappointed and unable to enjoy the game once ME3 comes out.

[Whatever42]

Phaedon wrote...

with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.

But do we really need new squadmates in ME3?

If all the squaddies return and/or the VS and Liara hook up then no. They do need to make sure you have a couple though, so if not all the squaddies return then either the ME1 guys have to show up or they have to give us a couple new ones.

[samuraix87]

liara has an army at her disposal to help shep

samara could rally the other justicars to help shep

thane and kolyat and feron could also gather the drell that have been trained like thane to help shep

zaeed could depending on how you do his mission could be the new leader of the blue suns and could use them to help shep

[Phaedon]

Wittand25 wrote...

Ok nowhere in this transcript says that squad member will be back as squad members or even as NPCs. Please read it carefully.

Some characters will be back. We knew that.
Some of the squad-members of ME1 and 2 will play an important role in ME3. We suspected that.

So there is no new information and especially no confirmation here. So it is in your best interest to lower your expectations unless you want to be severely disappointed and unable to enjoy the game once ME3 comes out.

Who talked about confirmation?
Do I really need to add 'The Possibility of' in the title?

And why should one lower their expectations?
They just need to have realistic ones. Thinking that Bioware made the SM as a gimmick and defied the definition of Act 2, having you collect a whole new team in ME3,  is not realistic ,it's pessimistic.

Modifié par Phaedon, 25 mars 2011 - 08:18 .

[Razagon]

Phaedon wrote...

with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.

But do we really need new squadmates in ME3?

You have to look at the big picture here. They keep saying that ME is all about getting to meet new characters, new people. There are those who got their team killed. And there are those people that never played ME1 or ME2. They have to think about them too. As for me I would be more than happy just to have my old team.

[Almostfaceman]

Wittand25 wrote...

Ok nowhere in this transcript says that squad member will be back as squad members or even as NPCs. Please read it carefully.

Some characters will be back. We knew that.
Some of the squad-members of ME1 and 2 will play an important role in ME3. We suspected that.

So there is no new information and especially no confirmation here. So it is in your best interest to lower your expectations unless you want to be severely disappointed and unable to enjoy the game once ME3 comes out.

Applying your logic, keeping characters from ME1 and ME2 and not making them squaddies, plus adding new ME3 squaddies - just further complicates the story and doesn't simplify it at all.  Now they have to track not only people who didn't die in ME1 & 2 but track new characters.  I think it simplifies the plot by keeping the number of characters to a minimum.

*drops 2 cents*

[Phaedon]

If anything, what the interview confirms is, if the community liked a character, they'll be back.

You have to look at the big picture here. They keep saying that ME is all about getting to meet new characters, new people. There are those who got their team killed. And there are those people that never played ME1 or ME2. They have to think about them too. As for me I would be more than happy just to have my old team.

They still have 2 ME2 characters. And those who didn't do it on purpose are probably less than 3-5% of the buyers.

[Whatever42]

If they are bringing back the squadies in a non-cameo role (I would regard Wrex as a non-cameo role) then it would actually be easier to bring back most as squadmates. Because a non-cameo role would either mean completely missed content if they were dead or they would require a stand in. A dozen stand-ins would be messy.

Personally, I don't really care if they're squaddies or not, as long as I get some significant interaction with them. I just think having most of them return as squadmates is likely easier and cheaper for Bioware.

[Whatever42]

Razagon wrote...

Phaedon wrote...

with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.

But do we really need new squadmates in ME3?

You have to look at the big picture here. They keep saying that ME is all about getting to meet new characters, new people. There are those who got their team killed. And there are those people that never played ME1 or ME2. They have to think about them too. As for me I would be more than happy just to have my old team.

Christina Norman did tweet that those who got their entire squad killed would have a tough time in ME3.

[Phaedon]

To be honest, I think that at best, we'll have Wrex as a temporary squadmate, his role is important.

Modifié par Phaedon, 25 mars 2011 - 08:20 .

[Rurik_Niall]

Kasumi I think would be best utilised as becoming an agent for the Shadow Broker, so she can easily be written off, Zaeed is only in it for the money so if Tim doesn't pay him he'd probably leave. Miranda I'm fairly sure will return, she's the only squad mate that's nigh invincible during the suicide run. I can't see any reason why Grunt would choose to leave, as long as Shepard gives him plenty of things to kill, especially big things, he's content and you can't get much bigger than an army of Mechthulhu so I can't see any reason for him not to return. Garrus and Tali practically have to return, they're two of the most popular characters, and romance options to boot, Bioware would be stupid not to bring them back. Jacob will probably go where ever Miranda goes, so if she returns, he will too. Mordin and Thane I would hope to see return, but there's a good possibility both will be dead by the time ME3 starts, the former from old age, the latter from his condition. Legion is a shameless fanbot, it'll follow Shepard to hell and back again, so I imagine Legion will be back. The Asari of your choice and Jack I can't really think of any good reason for them to stay or go, and nor do I care.

Modifié par Rurik_Niall, 25 mars 2011 - 08:22 .

[Almostfaceman]

Phaedon wrote...

To be honest, I think that at best, we'll have Wrex as a temporary squadmate, his role is important.

Agreed, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they incorporate the "temporary squadmate" feature (as in LotSB) more often in ME3.