Modifié par lovgreno, 26 mars 2011 - 12:51 .
Rurik_Niall wrote...
DustxParticle wrote...
Just expressing my thoughts..
But it would seem redundant to make sure everyone on your squad survived [there's achievement for accomplishing as much] if only a select handfull come back to aid you. Grunt, Zaeed and all those other people that suggested would leave.
That may very well turn out to be the case......... but with the looming threat of galactic extinction to all life as they know it, what could they 'possibly' be doing or need to do that was more important? As Jacob said in ME2, he had to take care of some personal matter, for closure, because there was a chance they might not make it, if they did.. well that drives the point of "Ok, I've dealt with those niggling issues in my life, no regrets, let's win this thing!"
Rather than "Oh.. I survived.. I wasn't expecting that, well now that that's over with, I think I'll go write a novel." [/over-dramatic]
Sure there may be an issue of BW dedicating portions of their game to a character that may not have lived through the suicide mission, but there's potentially millions of people that don't express their love for Zaeed, Jacob and others on this forum but would make a point of expressing their rage once they discover that 'Squadmate A' has found something better to do with his/her time and disappeared into the background. [/end rant]
Well, there are certain characters I can see being more useful doing other work. Liara may be a decent biotic, but our squad in ME2... how would the hip younglings put it today? We are tripping over biotics. Jack, the Asari of your choice, Miranda, Jacob, Thane, and possibly Shepard himself, so I honestly think she's more useful to us as the Shadow Broker than a squad mate, same goes for Wrex as the new Mandalore. Kasumi as I pointed out earlier her talents would be better put to use as one of Liara's agents now.
Darth Death wrote...
I could care less about new squad mates.
Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 26 mars 2011 - 03:35 .
That's right. Because sans the pockegotchi freakshow circus, ME2 was a mediocre game at best. The "All team back & No new squadmates" folks are the best testament to that.lovgreno wrote...
OP implies returning squadmates but perhaps not that many. But, implications are only implications.
No reason to making a pre order untill they say that fan favourites like Wrex, Tali and Garrus are back on the team in other words. It remains to be seen if they intend to make this game a sequell that is realy a third part of a series and not just a new game with a few short cameos relating to old friends from the old games. It is far too soon to say this will be worth our money yet.
IndigoWolfe wrote...
"COULDN'T" care less! "COULDN'T"!
Modifié par Darth Death, 26 mars 2011 - 03:01 .
Almostfaceman wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
To be honest, I think that at best, we'll have Wrex as a temporary squadmate, his role is important.
Agreed, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if they incorporate the "temporary squadmate" feature (as in LotSB) more often in ME3.
Bioware made sure that if he survived ME1, he's going to survive ME2 as well. And, his life is one of the "critical choices" in the PS3 comic. Bioware probably have a very good statistic of how many players have a living Wrex in their files, and if it's like 80 %, I'd say he could be coming back in a major role...Mesina2 wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
But do we really need new squadmates in ME3?with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.
Yes.
Pwener2313 wrote...
Why does Mac say "struggling with now" ? ME3 (as far as I've been told) has been finished for a few months now. Huh....
I think they did a "crit path" first, so that the basic story of ME3 is playable from the beginning to the end, and then they've started to add the different permutations into this critical core.
Funker Shepard wrote...
Mesina2 wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
But do we really need new squadmates in ME3?with possibly some ME3 exclusive would end up around 20 squadmates.
Yes.
No. When you've gone out of your way to kill as many allies and teammates as you can, just filling up the crew again would cheapen those choices. I don't think it's a coincidence that "2" is the amount of teammates required to survive the suicide mission, as well as the minimum required for the away team. Now, I think we're going to get some "new" people (Mostly the VS, and I think that Anderson was set up more as a "man of action" in the latest ME novel).
Modifié par Mesina2, 26 mars 2011 - 03:20 .
Darth Death wrote...
IndigoWolfe wrote...
"COULDN'T" care less! "COULDN'T"!
Is it not what ME2 was about? Building a squad to defeat the greater threat? So there's no reward for those individuals upon completing the suicide mission with everyone alive? I guess some of your squad mates that are not returning in ME3 go about like, "Oh! We survived the attack on the collators, lets leave Shepard and do our own thing while the reapers are coming from dark space to kill us all." [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]
Taking out some of the old squad mate by replacing them with new ones only punishes the player who completed the final mission with anyone still alive. It doesn't make any sense, storyline-wise for certain characters to leave Shepard upon the final battle with the reapers. The reapers are top priority as far as story is concerned, and everyone should pitch in to help. That's why there were also loyalty missions to give "closure" to your squad, settling any distractions before the assault (and helping with moral).
Whatever. There will be new characters abandoning some of the old ones, despite how strongly I'm against it. Still looking forward to it though... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Darth Death wrote...
IndigoWolfe wrote...
"COULDN'T" care less! "COULDN'T"!
Is it not what ME2 was about? Building a squad to defeat the greater threat? So there's no reward for those individuals upon completing the suicide mission with everyone alive? I guess some of your squad mates that are not returning in ME3 go about like, "Oh! We survived the attack on the collators, lets leave Shepard and do our own thing while the reapers are coming from dark space to kill us all." [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]
Taking out some of the old squad mate by replacing them with new ones only punishes the player who completed the final mission with anyone still alive. It doesn't make any sense, storyline-wise for certain characters to leave Shepard upon the final battle with the reapers. The reapers are top priority as far as story is concerned, and everyone should pitch in to help. That's why there were also loyalty missions to give "closure" to your squad, settling any distractions before the assault (and helping with moral).
Whatever. There will be new characters abandoning some of the old ones, despite how strongly I'm against it. Still looking forward to it though... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]COULD CARE LESS
COULDN'T CARE LESS
I was going to mention Rainbow Six Raven Shield.Praetor Shepard wrote...
I was thinking about how a player can be penalized by having squadmates die, but still operate with two followers in combat; and the mention of Biff reminded me of how Rainbow Six and the other early Tom Clancy games worked like Rogue Spear.
What, you mean the minor characters part? They didn't start writing those till until a couple of months ago.Pwener2313 wrote...
Why does Mac say "struggling with now" ? ME3 (as far as I've been told) has been finished for a few months now. Huh....
Modifié par Phaedon, 26 mars 2011 - 04:09 .
Lolwut???Someone With Mass wrote...
Instead of new characters... with no good reason to follow or be loyal to Shepard whatsoever
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Lolwut???
Reapers, man. Galactic extinction. Stuff.
Darth Death wrote...
Zulu_DFA wrote...
Darth Death wrote...
IndigoWolfe wrote...
"COULDN'T" care less! "COULDN'T"!
Is it not what ME2 was about? Building a squad to defeat the greater threat? So there's no reward for those individuals upon completing the suicide mission with everyone alive? I guess some of your squad mates that are not returning in ME3 go about like, "Oh! We survived the attack on the collators, lets leave Shepard and do our own thing while the reapers are coming from dark space to kill us all." [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]
Taking out some of the old squad mate by replacing them with new ones only punishes the player who completed the final mission with anyone still alive. It doesn't make any sense, storyline-wise for certain characters to leave Shepard upon the final battle with the reapers. The reapers are top priority as far as story is concerned, and everyone should pitch in to help. That's why there were also loyalty missions to give "closure" to your squad, settling any distractions before the assault (and helping with moral).
Whatever. There will be new characters abandoning some of the old ones, despite how strongly I'm against it. Still looking forward to it though... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]COULD CARE LESS
COULDN'T CARE LESS
Deal with itB)
You mean Jacob, right?Someone With Mass wrote...
Okay, let's grab mercenary/Alliance character reject #587
Wow. That's a pretty detailed explanation... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/blushing.png[/smilie]Hathur wrote...
Just to explain since I'm bored.Darth Death wrote...
Deal with it[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]Zulu_DFA wrote...
Darth Death wrote...
IndigoWolfe wrote...
"COULDN'T" care less! "COULDN'T"!
Is it not what ME2 was about? Building a squad to defeat the greater threat? So there's no reward for those individuals upon completing the suicide mission with everyone alive? I guess some of your squad mates that are not returning in ME3 go about like, "Oh! We survived the attack on the collators, lets leave Shepard and do our own thing while the reapers are coming from dark space to kill us all." [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]
Taking out some of the old squad mate by replacing them with new ones only punishes the player who completed the final mission with anyone still alive. It doesn't make any sense, storyline-wise for certain characters to leave Shepard upon the final battle with the reapers. The reapers are top priority as far as story is concerned, and everyone should pitch in to help. That's why there were also loyalty missions to give "closure" to your squad, settling any distractions before the assault (and helping with moral).
Whatever. There will be new characters abandoning some of the old ones, despite how strongly I'm against it. Still looking forward to it though... [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]COULD CARE LESS
COULDN'T CARE LESS
Here is the "scale of caring": 0---------10---------20
If I care to the maximum degree about something, I would be a "20" on the scale. So, that leaves a LOT of room to care less about something... you might care about something on the 12 or 8 rating on the scale, thereby, caring less than what you potentially cared. Hence the statement "I could care less" is appropriate, since there is room to care less.
If you care nothing at all about something, you would be a "0" on the scale.. the absolute minimum measurable on the scale. Thereby it is impossible to "care less" about something since you're already at the lowest value. The statement "I could care less" is invalid, as it is impossible. However, the statement "I couldn't care less" is appropriate since you are already at the lowest degree possible for caring.
Now you know... and knowing is half the battle.
G.I. JOE!
[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]
Modifié par Darth Death, 26 mars 2011 - 05:21 .
The one in the OP?Darth Death wrote...
Anyways, this topic has made me sad.
Modifié par braynken, 26 mars 2011 - 07:33 .
Phaedon wrote...
The one in the OP?Darth Death wrote...
Anyways, this topic has made me sad.
The Spamming Troll wrote...
i disagree. if the entire galaxy is under threat of mass extinction, then id think wrex wouldnt be worried about which clan is which clan, or mordin wont be trying to cure the genephage. priorities should swing towards protecting "life" in ME3 and i hope they wont be "to busy" to help commander shepard save the friggin universe.
if wrex or liara arent squadmate options, let alone the majority of the ME2 squad(because whats the point of ME2 if not for recruiting a squad), then ill be very dissapointed. im not interested in meeting new people anymore. im interested in saving the galaxy with a crew ive already spent 2 games with.
Hathur wrote...
Just to explain since I'm bored.
Here is the "scale of caring": 0---------10---------20
If I care to the maximum degree about something, I would be a "20" on the scale. So, that leaves a LOT of room to care less about something... you might care about something on the 12 or 8 rating on the scale, thereby, caring less than what you potentially cared. Hence the statement "I could care less" is appropriate, since there is room to care less.
If you care nothing at all about something, you would be a "0" on the scale.. the absolute minimum measurable on the scale. Thereby it is impossible to "care less" about something since you're already at the lowest value. The statement "I could care less" is invalid, as it is impossible. However, the statement "I couldn't care less" is appropriate since you are already at the lowest degree possible for caring.
Now you know... and knowing is half the battle.
G.I. JOE!
Modifié par Almostfaceman, 26 mars 2011 - 07:42 .
How is it depressing? Mac Walters talks about minor characters that will return and briefly mentions squaddies...Darth Death wrote...
Phaedon wrote...
The one in the OP?Darth Death wrote...
Anyways, this topic has made me sad.
Yes...
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