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[Clonedzero]

nah, i modded the game letting merril have access to the creation tree >_>

though i dont have sebastian so the point is moot.

[dgcatanisiri]

I romanced Anders in my first game, and I was upset that you couldn't even tell him 'this is the man I love, I can't kill him, and I won't let someone else kill him.' It wasn't the fact that he's a healer, but that this was the character my Hawke loved.

Not to mention, Sebastian is being extremely unreasonable and, in his own way, as uncompromising as Anders. I realize that a lot of it was the actual point of what he was doing, but Sebastian is being the immature prince he was back when he arrived at the Chantry by demanding Anders's death for the action. He's not thinking clearly - kill Anders and you have a martyr on your hands. Anders would become a symbol and rallying point for the mages in their uprising. They'd view his actions as the ones needed to be taken if he was killed. Keep him alive and the truth will out. And leading an army to take one man? He can't even raise an army to retake his kingdom. Even if he could, he'd have to retake Starkhaven first to have the manpower to scour the Free Marches for Anders. And he'll have far larger things to worry about. So I don't think that his threat has the teeth he wanted it to.

[Tainan7509]

Sebastian is just a DLC material. think about it. He may or may not appear in the next DA3. i don't care about him. I won't let anyone influencing my decision base on their opinion or thread.

[Gavinthelocust]

Yes but it's hard to compromise when your adoptive mother, most of your friends, and your home have just been obliterated in a matter of seconds while your best friend is defending the murderer. I'm surprised Sebastian didn't outright kill Anders on the spot.

[S Atomeha]

Tainan7509 wrote...

Sebastian is just a DLC material. think about it. He may or may not appear in the next DA3. i don't care about him. I won't let anyone influencing my decision base on their opinion or thread.

neither do I. but the problem for me is since i chalenged myself i really needed a healer. and anders is it. so even if i wanted to kill him which i did. i can't on gameplay mechanics(that and i aint that good )

[fluorine7]

Yes, this is probably the worst metagaming decision I've made. If it's up to me, if I don't know there's a huge fight coming, I'd kill him in a heartbeat even my PC is romancing him. But.... he's my only healer... and I don't trust potion alone.

[3SG Sage]

As noted, on normal or casual you can get by without a healer no problem. I didn't whack Anders because Merill was my girl and she said to take him with us. I couldn't bring myself to take him with us but instead sent him away in deference to Merill.

[kyles3]

My philosophy: screw healing, kill bad guys faster. 
 
My favorite bad guy to kill: mage terrorist.

Modifié par kyles3, 25 mars 2011 - 11:30 .

[belwin]

i killed him,
then had bethany heal.

[RubiconI7]

Do they give the weapons and accessories back when you kill Anders?

[IanPolaris]

Everyone,

Yeah it's annoying that Anders is the only mage in acts 2 and 3 that has healing, but I kill him every time.  It's not thge end of the world if you do.

1.  If you are playing a Mage-Hawke, you should at least have the upgraded "heal" spell, and most of my Mage-Hawkes are Spirit Healers either as their first or second specialization (for the passives if nothing else).

2.  If you are playing a non-mage, it's dead easy to get Bethany to 100 friendship very early in the game.  Leave her behind when you go to the deep roads, and she joins you almost as soon as Anders leaves, and Bethany can heal.

3.  As others have mentioned, healing pots are plentiful and cheap by this point.

I find it annoying that Merill can't heal, but after playing a Spirit-Healer/Bloodmage as a Mage-Hawke, I now understand why she can't.  A fully and properly built Merril doesn't use mana to cast her spells at this point at all and if you Rivalmanced her, she take far less damage from casting and combat than she regenerates!  That means she could have virtually unlimited healing AND be one of the best combat mages in the game.  You can almost do this with a mage-hawke, but you do have to switch modes now and again and deal with the cooldown for healing field for a few seconds anyway while you do.

-Polaris

[Xewaka]

Not really. Went to the Black Emporium, stocked on potions, prepared the squad to be a murder team, and went my merry way.
My main complain is that I had to use Anders earlier as they took Bethany from me.

[Stelae]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Yes but it's hard to compromise when your adoptive mother, most of your friends, and your home have just been obliterated in a matter of seconds while your best friend is defending the murderer. I'm surprised Sebastian didn't outright kill Anders on the spot.

I was surprised, given that his whole  character arc was supposed to be about Revenge Not Helping After People You Love Are Murdered, that his immediate reaction was to threaten revenge.  Way to grow through adversity there, Sebastian. 

[Volourn]

"Not to mention, Sebastian is being extremely unreasonable and, in his own way, as uncompromising as Anders. I realize that a lot of it was the actual point of what he was doing, but Sebastian is being the immature prince he was back when he arrived at the Chantry by demanding Anders's death for the action. He's not thinking clearly - kill Anders and you have a martyr on your hands"

No, he isn't. Let's not blame the victim here.

"I was surprised, given that his whole character arc was supposed to be about Revenge Not Helping After People You Love Are Murdered, that his immediate reaction was to threaten revenge. Way to grow through adversity there, Sebastian. "

Um.. he just saw people he cared about get blown up.. he reacted like any sane eprson would = punish the person who committed such a heinous act.

Love the way people try to justify Anerd's cold blooded mass murder. LMAO

P.S. Talking about 'martyrs', Anders made the Chantry mother one. Nice goin', dude, nice goin'.

Modifié par Volourn, 26 mars 2011 - 12:43 .

[Xewaka]

mrsph wrote...
Anders killing loads of people is totally cool
Sebastian wanting to get justice for all those people? WOAH, MAN! YOU GOING TOO FAR!

The problem is that Anders is shaggeable, whereas Seb isn't. Therefore, fangirls (and fanboys) will be blind to the obvious.

[ExiledMimic]

The fact that Anders was my friend, we got along, I advocated moderation and he agreed and he was my solid healer all went into my choice. 1 that he went against developed character by leaps and bounds. 2 that he was my rezzer (Nightmare is a @#$^*) I could either let em live or drop difficulty and ruin the achievement. Welp. I got my achievement. Which I thought should come with the one in my signature.

Any way you look at it: Bad form.

[Avilia]

Wasn't too big a problem for me on my finished run - I was playing a mage. Spec for Spirit healing..all good. I'm a bit concerned for my current Hawke - warriors don't do the healing so well.

Still, Sebastian has the shiny armour and doesn't have the thousand yard stare. I'm sure Bethany will love being a Warden ;-)

[Demx]

Nope. Played on hard, and health potions were able to get me through everything. Anders just sat in darktown.

[S Atomeha]

Siradix wrote...

Nope. Played on hard, and health potions were able to get me through everything. Anders just sat in darktown.

I should brush up my skills then..

[Icy Magebane]

It's annoying that Sebastian gets himself involved, but it wasn't an issue for me. I was playing as a mage, and Greater Heal was good enough. I just set it up so that Carver, Fenris, and Aveline could do enough stagger attacks to keep Hawke's lightning and blood magic nice and lethal. Problem solved. I was going to kill Anders regardless of Sebastian's threats, but on principle, I don't like the idea of DLC characters who can leave for any reason.

Not sure how I'm going to handle this on my 2H warrior though... I don't really see myself letting Anders live, so I guess I'll be stocking up on potions.

[Iakus]

I was reluctant to execute Anders cause I was sympathetic to his cause. But...dang, that was a chantry full of innocent people! And Anders knew that! The whole point was to start a war and eliminate anyone who could possibly find a peaceful solution!

For the sake of friendship, I was willing to just let him walk away, though I could have nothing more to do with him. Then Sebasion threatened Kirkwall with an army, I figured Qunari rampage, templar/mage civil war and a war with Starkhaven in one decade was too much. "

"Sorry Anders, but it's no less than you derserve. Shoulda stayed at the Vigil like the Awakening epilogue said"