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[ffbj]

Our beloved vault is under a major spam attack.  Mostly NwN entries, scripting it seems, but this needs to be looked into.  I already sent a PM over there, with no answer.  So I am posting it here in hopes that someone with some pull will notice. Ohh!  This really ticks me off.

Modifié par ffbj, 25 mars 2011 - 11:47 .

[TSMDude]

From what I understand it is the same folks griefing the servers as well. Some of the player names are the same.

[omen_shepperd]

Have they been targeting specific authors? I cant seem to find any of this spam yet. Though I just started going through the top rated listings in scripting.

[Shadooow]

TSMDude wrote...

From what I understand it is the same folks griefing the servers as well. Some of the player names are the same.

wtf, i don't believe this, do you have proof?

The spam is really present, especially in new submissions but the nicknames are random and text is bunch of links, its a work of those spambots. I don't really understand what should Greifers have from this.

Modifié par ShaDoOoW, 26 mars 2011 - 01:30 .

[SuperFly_2000]

I didn't see any spam....

[The Fred]

Yeah, even one of my uploads had a spam message on it. It wasn't even a very-much looked-at one. ;-)

[ffbj]

Probably bots, and now it looks like it has been taken care of.

[lordofworms]

yep, I get em at least once every two months on many of my submissions for last several months it seems..
examples like:

giorgio armani, do you like into the bright oceans of moonlight love, armani is a giorgio handbag. leather suplets fanciful fine dining.

and other nonsense like that..then its gone..then its back..then its gone.

[TSMDude]

ShaDoOoW wrote...

TSMDude wrote...

From what I understand it is the same folks griefing the servers as well. Some of the player names are the same.

wtf, i don't believe this, do you have proof?

The spam is really present, especially in new submissions but the nicknames are random and text is bunch of links, its a work of those spambots. I don't really understand what should Greifers have from this.

I thought he was reffering to the trolls who were posting and making fake submissons. Some of those folks had the same names as the Griefers.

My bad. Though they have attacked 2 forums as of late and then saw ffjb's post which was why i posted.

[ffbj]

Looks like it is fixed now. I got a very terse e-mail from BeyondThe Pale. It read:
Removed
Lol.

[Jenna WSI]

Wish they'd remove the posts made by the crazy dude that stalks WSI....

[Shia Luck]

Jenna WSI wrote...

Wish they'd remove the posts made by the crazy dude that stalks WSI....

If you email BTP, he will.   I send him links to spam/trolls whenever I find them. The site is too big for the team to monitor it all themselves soooooo...

Have fun

[Shadooow]

I guess they should start to validate comments with links... or make harder captcha? deleting new spams every day is just waste of time... and there is new spam again

[Jenna WSI]

No, I already asked them...I told them we had a player that was banned for hate comments and harassment/stalking on our server, and the same guy was leaving bad votes and comments that still had discriminating comments about lesbians, being really nasty about it. So... management only removed the part in his rant about gays, and told us that his server review(s) of us are valid. I guess it's okay to downvote a project because you don't like the sexual orientation of the members? Somehow that is a non-biased view of the project? TBH I'm a little upset at how little the admins cared. He comes back a few times a year under different handles and downvotes us some more, often on the date he was banned. Pretty amazing that he can't find something better to do after it's been over a year now.

Modifié par Jenna WSI, 02 avril 2011 - 07:29 .

[Bannor Bloodfist]

Simple, turn off voting.

The vault system has always been spammed by the idiots in the nwn community.

Vault specific rules on voting are not enforced.

If you want folks folks to be able to comment about your PW somewhere, put up a forum system somewhere that allows you control.

I am NOT saying that deleting all bad votes is the right way to handle things either. A valid, constructive BAD vote is still a valid vote. BY this I mean if someone votes a low number because of something they find bad about a server, fine. But that "something" should NOT be one that is based on hate, or ignorance or personal feelings between different folks should be deleted.

[Jenna WSI]

Hm. Didn't know that was an option. Thanks for the help.

[NWN DM]

Yeah, no voting is a good solution... unless of course you want your content to climb the mountain of Hall of Fame entry consideration, in which case you need votes.

[Aleron]

We were in the top 10 (up to 7th place at one point I believe) before the vault attacks occurred. I don't think there is any chance of the people at the vault fixing the issue, despite it being one bad player doing the trolling. At some point it becomes better to cut the losses.

Modifié par Aleron, 12 avril 2011 - 12:23 .

[Explodingrunes]

I had the same problems with my own entry on the vault. When my younger brothers started to attack my community on all fronts because we had kicked them out for cheating and picking fights, Beyond the Pale told me that he wouldn't remove their comments because everyone has the right to say what they want to say. In the end, I asked that my server entry be removed from the vault.

[BeyondThePale]

It is difficult to remove one vote that has what we consider valid reasons. If a vote contains a reasonable opinion and an insult, we will remove the insult and let the opinion stand.

We strive to remove spam and obvious attacks by a repeat offender. There are certain ways to ascertain whether a post is by the same person or group, but no system is perfect.

Spam has become a way of life in the online age. Your e-mail, your phone, your website, etc. We try to remove it as we see it or as it is pointed out. If you want spam removed from your Vault diet, please let us know where it is and we will do our best to escort it to the door.

BTP

[Aleron]

Sorry, BTP, but I have to disagree. Jen tried working along with those on the vault and it got us nowhere. All you guys did was remove a sentence bashing lesbians and some other sexist comments, leaving the remainder of the spam there (and the score of 1). The player was obviously the same one causing us issues a long time ago (we were even able to point out a blog with the same name used where he was trolling us) and nothing was done. We've lost a lot of faith in the vault since then and I believe for good reason.

The player continued to attack us after under a few different user names and again, nothing was done when it was brought up. We've pretty much given up suffice to say.

Modifié par Aleron, 21 avril 2011 - 12:40 .

[Shadooow]

Well Aleron... his behavior is probably not right, but I think that he got right for his vote of 1. His reasons for such low vote may not be valid from your point of view but he probably has some.

Of course only once, if he is making new account to vote again, thats against vault rules for sure. If he don't spam various vault entries with vote of 1 I see no rules violation.

And btw even a vote of 1.0 can bring you into HoW.

[TSMDude]

We had a very very bitter break up with a former server and TSM was split into two because of it. We were trolled, attacked and even at one point were accussed of making google search point to our forums instead of thiers. (Which if I could do that I would make everything nwn releated go there first, )

I understand your frustration Aleron but BTP and the vault have always in good faith done thier best and I commend them for that. I may not agree with somethings they do but then again they are doing a pretty darn good job.

The Top Ten list really means very little. There is several dead servers on there atm so honestly concentrating on just being visible is more important than being on such a list. We were there and for a minute I felt a lot of pride till it was pointed out to me that one of the servers on there had 33 top ten votes while in Beta...

Kinda put things in perspective that while the voting proccess is easily duped it is better just ignoring the voting and allowing the comments to come through and shine a postive spotlight on your own server. *shrugs*

Besides as long as YOU know your server is good to YOU then who really gives a rats arse what some joe shmo says who is all bent because he does not get to play there anymore?

[OldTimeRadio]

I had a SPAM response for one of my submissions a few days ago, pointed it out to BeyondThePale and it was deleted the next day. Thanks to BTP and the rest of the Vault crew.

[_six]

TSMDude wrote...

 even at one point were accussed of making google search point to our forums instead of thiers

I think every company and web developer in the world would want a chat with you then.

I've had a whole bunch of spam on my vault pages lately, mostly just monolithic blocks of random text with rather suspicious links, but they've usually been dealt with pretty efficiently by the vault staff, so no complaints there. The rare occurrances of obvious trolling have always taken longer, but really we can't expect BTP to just delete posts without investigating properly first, as simply deleting a problem post may just result in the poster creating a new account to troll with.

Though in the World Serpent Inn's case, I have to wonder if pages like this are contributing to the problem. Whether they were created by staff or by the spammers themselves (I'm assuming the latter), it'd be more than a little irresponsible not to do something about the issue. Though obviously you might not have been aware of it yet, in which case I apologize if it appears I'm suggesting otherwise.

Modifié par _six, 21 avril 2011 - 02:17 .