Exactly. Haters gonna hate yo.wulfsturm wrote...
It's mostly haters who are hating. Doesn't matter which platform they've played it on (if they've played it at all) people will find a way to trash something they don't like.
Modifié par HyperLimited, 26 mars 2011 - 03:08 .
Disnaster wrote...
I played Neverwinter Nights on the PC. Loved the story. Fell in love with Bioware.
With my original Xbox, I played Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic. Loved them both, particularly Jade Empire.
Korusus wrote...
Disnaster wrote...
Korusus wrote...
Does the OP realize that the console version of the game (X360 -77 to 79) is rated the lowest of all platforms?
At least the PC version has auto-attack.
First, I was referring to the official Bioware forums.
Second, the ever-reliable Metacritic, which can easily have its scores convoluted due to including every "critic" under the sun, and a forum for every disgruntled player who has access to the internet, is hardly a reliable indicator of a game's excellence. Sure, it can help form a consensus, but still--
Oh, no the critic from "Dark Zero" didn't like the game! Ah, well, if "Dark Zero" hated it, it must suck. And he's much more reliable than a critic from a major publication, who could "only" like the game because of some grand conspiracy.
And, according to Metacritic, "Uno" on the Xbox is a much better game than DA2. Really?
49 positive reviews out of 64? And only a few points below the original game's score? Not bad when you consider how different the game was from its predecessor. Of course, the "user" reviews have negatives far outweighing positives, but what does it say about the reviewers when most of them have only ever reviewed ONE game: DA2.
So, sorry, but your argument doesn't hold water.
It's not my "argument". The OP argument is that only PC users hate the
game. Clearly that's not the case. Mass Effect 2's X360 version was
rated a 96 on metacritic. I guess you don't think that's valid either.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
The
auto-attack issue alone makes your argument invalid as that's a console
only issue (many people upset that the promised auto-attack wasn't
delivered).
Whether you think it "holds water" or not, it doesn't change the fact that the X360 version was the most reviewed version (always is) and is also the lowest rated. And if you don't like metacritic for some bizarre reason, try gamerankings.com where the aggregate score is 77 for X360 and the PC version is 79.
Either way you slice it, there's plenty of console players that are disappointed by the game.
Disnaster wrote...
And my original post makes clear that I AM disappointed in the game. What I was wondering about was all the really nasty stuff being said: people should get fired, people who like the game should kill themselves, etc., Was that coming from PC users mostly? The ones who played Bioware games originally?
Akka le Vil wrote...
Disnaster wrote...
I played Neverwinter Nights on the PC. Loved the story. Fell in love with Bioware.
With my original Xbox, I played Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic. Loved them both, particularly Jade Empire.
Either it is delicious irony, or a very, very subtle mockery.
You DO realize you're talking about the two weakest Bioware's games here, and saying they are the one you like the most ?
I guess it tends to rather prove the point of people you talk about
Modifié par Jitter, 26 mars 2011 - 03:33 .
Actually, I said "it was a nice game" in the very quote in your post, so maybe you should check your eyes or your (very) basic reading comprehension. One of the weakest but still good. Got it ?Disnaster wrote...
Didn't say I liked them the most. Neverwinter Nights got me into playing RPG games. That should be a win for anyone else who is a fan of the genre, even if they didn't like the game. And yes, I liked Jade Empire, which is clearly verboten on these forums, as anyone who ever says anything nice about the game is treated like a pariah.
No, your viewpoint is not necessarily invalid.Based on how many hours I've played, both DA:O and the ME franchise are clearly my favorites. A combined totals worth of over 100 days worth of gameplay. Regardless, because I mention two games that some people here really dislike--based on their own opinions, of course, which HAVE to be better than mine--my viewpoint is invalid.
Yikes. I've never started a topic on a forum before. This has been an interesting experience.
ink07 wrote...
I don't think that the critique around poor DX11 NVidia optimization, or how it looks worst than the first game in some places, or the lack of tactical view, or the lack of toolset, or the gameplay/environment streamlining, etc. are invalid complaints.
I do think that PC gamers are the most vocal of all, but I only say that because I think they have enough different standards many multiplatform games are moving away from. You may consider them relevant or not, but I think many times it goes beyond simple "hating". But whatever let's you sleep at night.
Jitter wrote...
I think it's also because , well , have you ever tried to post on forums from a console ?
They could make a console forum , with a wheel ....
Jitter wrote...
ink07 wrote...
I don't think that the critique around poor DX11 NVidia optimization, or how it looks worst than the first game in some places, or the lack of tactical view, or the lack of toolset, or the gameplay/environment streamlining, etc. are invalid complaints.
I do think that PC gamers are the most vocal of all, but I only say that because I think they have enough different standards many multiplatform games are moving away from. You may consider them relevant or not, but I think many times it goes beyond simple "hating". But whatever let's you sleep at night.
I think it's also because , well , have you ever tried to post on forums from a console ?
They could make a console forum , with a wheel ....
Jitter wrote...
ink07 wrote...
I don't think that the critique around poor DX11 NVidia optimization, or how it looks worst than the first game in some places, or the lack of tactical view, or the lack of toolset, or the gameplay/environment streamlining, etc. are invalid complaints.
I do think that PC gamers are the most vocal of all, but I only say that because I think they have enough different standards many multiplatform games are moving away from. You may consider them relevant or not, but I think many times it goes beyond simple "hating". But whatever let's you sleep at night.
I think it's also because , well , have you ever tried to post on forums from a console ?
They could make a console forum , with a wheel ....
Jitter wrote...
I think it's also because , well , have you ever tried to post on forums from a console ?
They could make a console forum , with a wheel ....
This. I don't think it really matters if you play on a console or a PC, it doesn't really change the game. DA2 just wasn't the best of Bioware, it was good, but not great.L.Rui wrote...
I wouldnt say hate. DA2 just doesnt hold the candle to Dragon Age series. It's not a bad game though. I enjoyed it.
Derax wrote...
seems to be, but metacritics with ps and 360 ar even worse then pc's !!
Modifié par dirftglass, 26 mars 2011 - 05:39 .
bEVEsthda wrote...
I've been through this before. It's not about that DA2 is bad or good. It's all about that it's DA2.
So people are not mad about DA2 being a crappy game. They are mad about the death of the Dragon Age franchise (as originally conceived).
And yes, PC-gamers perhaps care much more about a thing like Dragon Age. Because they know it's unique. The only one of its kind. The last. To a console gamer it's nothing. Just another game. Well go away and play Bayonetta, and let us whine, mourn, despair and rage in peace.
scpulley wrote...
The gameplay was fine, most of the hate I've seen wasn't the gameplay. It was the halfassed story. That wasn't unique to the PC. It was a great concept for a story, they just didn't actually have enough game to connect Hawke to it. Sad, but true. Maybe the DLC will help, but somehow I doubt it. I actually liked how the combat and gameplay was, but I do expect a little more than a great idea for a game story that doesn't actually make it into the game.
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