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[Mad-Max90]

 excuse me bioware, I love your games and frankly I love you as developers, but this game's story was a bit poor and I think what really needs to be brought up is the lack of an ending, I know that's what you guys wanted and all but thats just poor writing, no offence to the writers, but look at it through a gamer's perspective, I spent 100 dollars alltogether on this game, yes I bought the collector's guide too, see I really do love you guys, but it felt like a stab in the back when there was no real resoloution to the problems you create in the game, if played like this "Create problems, dissapear, end" you have a good climax but no resoloution that is a big no no, and that's just 7th grade writing class lessons, and there is a reason they teach that, no one wants to pay for 2/3 of a book or movie so why do that in a more expensive media outlet? 
Not to mention the gold grinding quests required in the first act was just done painfully and the fact that no matter how much gold you have prior to entering the caves you're walking out with only 50 gold pieces is kind of a slap in the face for people who did go the extra mile in doing quests for a little more gold thinking that they can wait and purchase better items in the next act.
`I also hate to be that guy to bring up the romances, but I'm going to, and I'm not hating on anybody that's not what this is about, this is my opinion and I am allowed to have one.  I do not think bioware should have gone the way they did regarding them, I also strongly disagree with a hetero ****** switch, that's disgusting to me, what I do wish they did was have a gay companion a bi companion and a hetero companion, it's equal to everybody, because lets face it, some gamers don't want everycharacter in the game to be bi, and I am bisexual, It is just not everyday i walk down the street and every man and woman wants to hop in the sheets. 

Thank you, I just had to get that off my chest:innocent:`

[Maverick827]

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

[Mad-Max90]

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

Modifié par Mad-Max90, 26 mars 2011 - 06:58 .

[Alelsa]

Mad-Max90 wrote...
 no one wants to pay for 2/3 of a book or movie so why do that in a more expensive media outlet?

Hey, I think you just described most volumes of Wheel of Time there  

[neppakyo]

Alelsa wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...
 no one wants to pay for 2/3 of a book or movie so why do that in a more expensive media outlet?

Hey, I think you just described most volumes of Wheel of Time there  

So THATS where bioware got the idea from! *shakes fist* Bastards..

Modifié par neppakyo, 26 mars 2011 - 07:03 .

[e1team]

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

Lol! Nice one.

[Mad-Max90]

See, I really do not mind cliff hangers in other forms of media because they usually pay attention to and follow a set protagonist or group in their adventures, where as Bioware has stated that they want the series to follow thedas the land not hawke or the warden so yes I am a bit concerned by the lack of a resolution in Dragon Age 2

[e1team]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

It seems you didn't get the story. Re-read the book...

[neppakyo]

e1team wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

It seems you didn't get the story. Re-read the book...

It seems bioware didn't get the story either, maybe they should re-read the book too

[Mad-Max90]

e1team wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

It seems you didn't get the story. Re-read the book...

Are you sure you played the game, there is no ending to the story I didn't say there was a lack of a story I said there was only half of the story that I paid 60 dollars for so yeah I'm a little pissed but I think it is my right as a concerned fan to tell them why I'm concerned, if you can't put away your fanboyism for one second then I won't argue with you, but you should take a writing class before you throw stones at anyone just to get a hint at what a story goes like:innocent:

[scpulley]

neppakyo wrote...

e1team wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

It seems you didn't get the story. Re-read the book...

It seems bioware didn't get the story either, maybe they should re-read the book too

Heh...no no, they knew the story. Just thought it would be cool to skip to the end. I liked the bit where they psyched you out about this big decision...that in the end doesn't matter because you just kill everyone anyway. Oh....and they forgot to attach the main character to the story. He's sorta there as a prop in the background.

[silentassassin264]

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

[neppakyo]

scpulley wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

e1team wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

It seems you didn't get the story. Re-read the book...

It seems bioware didn't get the story either, maybe they should re-read the book too

Heh...no no, they knew the story. Just thought it would be cool to skip to the end. I liked the bit where they psyched you out about this big decision...that in the end doesn't matter because you just kill everyone anyway. Oh....and they forgot to attach the main character to the story. He's sorta there as a prop in the background.

hehe yeah I was just being sarcastic to fanboi there. Personally I felt Varric was more of a main character than hawke. At least you know what happens with him.

[Mad-Max90]

scpulley wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

e1team wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Maverick827 wrote...

I paid $60 for a full story; I'm not sure what edition you paid for.

really what was the ending  where was the main protagonist of the story by the end, you don't know do you? that's because it was lacking a resoloution. half a Story does not equal half a game by the way, oh and I got the sig edition I was excited, I'm not a hater I just don't like being suckered into a game that fails in the story department

It seems you didn't get the story. Re-read the book...

It seems bioware didn't get the story either, maybe they should re-read the book too

Heh...no no, they knew the story. Just thought it would be cool to skip to the end. I liked the bit where they psyched you out about this big decision...that in the end doesn't matter because you just kill everyone anyway. Oh....and they forgot to attach the main character to the story. He's sorta there as a prop in the background.

It's nice to see that I wasn't the only one who noticed that, if you can't actually play over half the decade then don't make it a whole decade, it feels like a kick in the groin to purchase a full priced game where you can only play half of the first half of the story, then just for a guy to say "yeah i have no idea where he is but i think he might be alive hehe", just dosn't cut it, im sorry but thats how i feel

[scpulley]

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

Except....this wasn't mass effect, they made a big deal about the games being about the world of Dragon Age. This kinda held to that, but tried at the same time to justify why Hawke was important. He wasn't, he just was there, his name could have been Bob the Pigfarmer, it didn't matter. That is why it was only half a story, we had no reason to care about Hawke. They tried to make up for that by throwing these bad things happening to him but gave zero point of reference for why either Hawke or the player should care.

[Mad-Max90]

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

You do know somewhat where the warden is because you were the warden basically in dragon age 2 you play what varric remembers of hawke not the actual guy/girl, and trilogies usually like I stated before follow a main protagonist not the actual land where the first story took place, that is why I am perturbed at the situation and know I don't mean the Italian.

[neppakyo]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

You do know somewhat where the warden is because you were the warden basically in dragon age 2 you play what varric remembers of hawke not the actual guy/girl, and trilogies usually like I stated before follow a main protagonist not the actual land where the first story took place, that is why I am perturbed at the situation and know I don't mean the Italian.

Amen! Totally agree.

When I beat DA2 for the first time and saw the ending I went wtf? It wasn't a well done 'cliff hanger' it was a kick to the ballsack.

[knightblazer100]

Noone seems to reemember how they normally give us good expansions that if we are lucky will fill in this half a story problems if they expansion us like they did on the first game all this cncern will be unwarrented

[Glorfindel709]

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

..... Origins was a cliffhanger?

No. Origins had an ending. You defeated the Archdemon, epilogue slides showed you what happened to the decisions you didn't get to see the immediate ramifications of, and your Warden was said to continue their adventures. That's not a cliffhanger, that's a wrap up before the second installment of a story can begin.

Sadly, the second installment of Dragon Age had nothing to do with OUR Wardens and focused on the cardboard cutout Hawke, in which our only real influence on the story was whether we could be Nice, Snarky, or Rude about it.

[neppakyo]

knightblazer100 wrote...

Noone seems to reemember how they normally give us good expansions that if we are lucky will fill in this half a story problems if they expansion us like they did on the first game all this cncern will be unwarrented

You serious? You mean since i paid $60 for half a story, if they deem us worthy they'll release a DLC or expansion and I will have to pay MORE money to have the story complete?!

*shakes head*

[silentassassin264]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

You do know somewhat where the warden is because you were the warden basically in dragon age 2 you play what varric remembers of hawke not the actual guy/girl, and trilogies usually like I stated before follow a main protagonist not the actual land where the first story took place, that is why I am perturbed at the situation and know I don't mean the Italian.

Yes you know where the Warden is but you don't know much of anything about anything behind the scenes.  You know you were saved by an ageless witch to get her daughter a demon baby but you have no other other clue about the state of the world.  You just fought the blight and are oblivious to the inner workings of the world.  With the expansions, namely witch hunt, you end up even more confused because it raises more questions and answers almost nothing.  It is a cliff hanger if you bother to follow the most important plots.  Where your warden ended up was not important.  Your warden was a pawn who served her/his purpose.  

I am not terribly worried about the ending in DA2.  Origins had Awakening and so I suspect there will be at least one major expansion to address the ending in more detail and I am fine with that.

Modifié par silentassassin264, 26 mars 2011 - 07:40 .

[PlumPaul93]

knightblazer100 wrote...

Noone seems to reemember how they normally give us good expansions that if we are lucky will fill in this half a story problems if they expansion us like they did on the first game all this cncern will be unwarrented

well I for one am glad that instead of putting that in the main game we'll have to pay more money to find out what should already be in the main game...good business strategy

[Mad-Max90]

neppakyo wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

You do know somewhat where the warden is because you were the warden basically in dragon age 2 you play what varric remembers of hawke not the actual guy/girl, and trilogies usually like I stated before follow a main protagonist not the actual land where the first story took place, that is why I am perturbed at the situation and know I don't mean the Italian.

Amen! Totally agree.

When I beat DA2 for the first time and saw the ending I went wtf? It wasn't a well done 'cliff hanger' it was a kick to the ballsack.

Exactly, the whole framed narrative is good in books and movies, and it even worked well in that one spy rpg I forgot the name but it worked because you were being interrogated not some other guy, and the game changed depending on how the interrogation went and vice versa this was just a non-interactive cut scene and there were only slight changes in the dialogue depending on romance and the templar mage choice, it was lame to say the least, because it was marketed as a rpg not a no matter what you say were pushing you this way game^_^

[Mad-Max90]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

knightblazer100 wrote...

Noone seems to reemember how they normally give us good expansions that if we are lucky will fill in this half a story problems if they expansion us like they did on the first game all this cncern will be unwarrented

well I for one am glad that instead of putting that in the main game we'll have to pay more money to find out what should already be in the main game...good business strategy

some people don't read the first post... heres hoping he'll read yours

[Mad-Max90]

knightblazer100 wrote...

Noone seems to reemember how they normally give us good expansions that if we are lucky will fill in this half a story problems if they expansion us like they did on the first game all this cncern will be unwarrented

Yes the answers to my problems, putting in a 40 dollar expansion to finish the main story and game... Unlike origins which did have an ending to a problem, Dragon Age 2 only raised more questions to lure you in and sucker you for more of your hard earned money, that is the problem, they didn't have an ending so they can do this to us.

Modifié par Mad-Max90, 26 mars 2011 - 07:47 .