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[Zanallen]

Upsettingshorts wrote...

Stinkface27 wrote...
I wonder then, how you feel about O and M? And their uh...powered-up forms.

That it's clumsy.

Kinda the same way I feel about the Riordan maneuver in DAO being used as a gryphon replacement in terms of how one goes about attacking a flying target.

You mean to say that Riordan could have used some of those ballistas to try and bring down the archdemon instead of leaping onto its back and stabbing away? That's insane.

[Riceboi240]

anders blew up the chantry to prove a point, he wont stand for losing his 60 gold for a game clearly worth 40.

[The_FenixV]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

 excuse me bioware, I love your games and frankly I love you as developers, but this game's story was a bit poor and I think what really needs to be brought up is the lack of an ending, I know that's what you guys wanted and all but thats just poor writing, no offence to the writers, but look at it through a gamer's perspective, I spent 100 dollars alltogether on this game, yes I bought the collector's guide too, see I really do love you guys, but it felt like a stab in the back when there was no real resoloution to the problems you create in the game, if played like this "Create problems, dissapear, end" you have a good climax but no resoloution that is a big no no, and that's just 7th grade writing class lessons, and there is a reason they teach that, no one wants to pay for 2/3 of a book or movie so why do that in a more expensive media outlet? 
Not to mention the gold grinding quests required in the first act was just done painfully and the fact that no matter how much gold you have prior to entering the caves you're walking out with only 50 gold pieces is kind of a slap in the face for people who did go the extra mile in doing quests for a little more gold thinking that they can wait and purchase better items in the next act.
`I also hate to be that guy to bring up the romances, but I'm going to, and I'm not hating on anybody that's not what this is about, this is my opinion and I am allowed to have one.  I do not think bioware should have gone the way they did regarding them, I also strongly disagree with a hetero ****** switch, that's disgusting to me, what I do wish they did was have a gay companion a bi companion and a hetero companion, it's equal to everybody, because lets face it, some gamers don't want everycharacter in the game to be bi, and I am bisexual, It is just not everyday i walk down the street and every man and woman wants to hop in the sheets. 

Thank you, I just had to get that off my chest:innocent:`

In your logic, Brotherhood is also half a story and shouldn't of been sold for 60 bucks, then again I considered that game as an expansion instead. 

I look at the anders romance and I can't tell you it has nothing to do with the gender, he is attached to the personality he is like a small pup who wants someone to be there for him. Isabella, well you could have a foursome with her in Origins, though she looked extremely ugly in Origins, at least she is true to her character why should her romance options change? I don't understand Merril being Bisexual though. 

[Cody211282]

Honestly I'm ok if people want to end a story on a cliffhanger. The problem I have with this game is all they really thought of was the hook for the next one and a tin of filler that didn't feel like it mattered.

[ZombiePowered]

I was really angry when the first Lord of the Rings movie didn't finish the entire story. It was just... infuriating, really.

[Mugnir]

Epic disservice.

[graciegrace]

I don't get why people complain about it having a cliffhanger.  They're obviously planning another game.  No one complained that both ME's had cliffhangers, why is it such a big deal that this game has a cliffhanger?

[Rhys1984]

You'll get more story with a expansion, and it did end in a fashion, the templar and mage fighting in kirkwall was the premise of act 3, and guess what you ended it by siding with one faction and murdering the other, and then turned around and murdered the leader of the faction you teamed with. the end...now starts act four, the ramifications of your actions are in full swing, presumably another 3 years have past and cassandra is interviewing varrick,

[The_FenixV]

graciegrace wrote...

I don't get why people complain about it having a cliffhanger.  They're obviously planning another game.  No one complained that both ME's had cliffhangers, why is it such a big deal that this game has a cliffhanger?

The complaint for the first ME was because they promised a DLC that would lead up to Mass Effect 2, but they broke that promise. 

[ZombiePowered]

The_FenixV wrote...

graciegrace wrote...

I don't get why people complain about it having a cliffhanger.  They're obviously planning another game.  No one complained that both ME's had cliffhangers, why is it such a big deal that this game has a cliffhanger?

The complaint for the first ME was because they promised a DLC that would lead up to Mass Effect 2, but they broke that promise. 

They did? I wasn't even aware of that. Still, that bridge was gapped in the beginning of ME2, so no harm done. In fact, less harm done since you didn't have to buy DLC.

Cliffhangers are fine--people just need to be patient and eagerly await the next part of the story instead of demanding immediate satisfaction. So many people on these forums seem to think they are entitled to as much story as they want because they paid sixty dollars for this game. Plenty of writies use cliff hangers in their books, but I never see anyone saying "I paid 20 bucks for this book, I demand to know exactly how the story is going to progress after this cliffhanger that is deliberately used to make me speculate and build my own excitement for the next book." People just need to sit back and start geeking out about their predictions for what is going to happen next.

[Mad-Max90]

That's because it's 20 dollars for a book, plus bioware said something along the lines of the game spanning 10 years then giving you roughly 2 weeks of playing the whole other part of the decade was just varric not giving a **** where his friends were for periods of three years.

[ApplesauceBandit]

MOAR CONTENT, LESS GARBAGE PLOX!

[Everwarden]

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger

Origins left the world open, but was not a cliffhanger. The story as a whole was concluded within one game.

and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

No, but you can complain about a game not finishing the story it starts. I don't ever want to see Hawke again after DA2, so them leaving his story open is just horrifying. Not only did they wreck DA2, but they will likely bring the same failures back for an encore in 3. 

[ZombiePowered]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

That's because it's 20 dollars for a book, plus bioware said something along the lines of the game spanning 10 years then giving you roughly 2 weeks of playing the whole other part of the decade was just varric not giving a **** where his friends were for periods of three years.

Books take 10 hours to read. DA2 was over 40 hours. Seems like a fair deal to me.

Also, where did it say that the total elapsed game time during the playable sections of the 10 years were roughly two weeks?

Finally, Varric not telling the in between parts was him excluding the information that was irrelevent. As we see through much of the party banter, Varric actually cares quite deeply for his friends. Pentaghast just isn't there it hear about it, so he told her about the pieces of Hawke's tale where something relevent to his rise to power happened. We have no need to see Hawke go buy groceries (though I would like to see the cinematic where he first spotted that amazing smoking jacket that he wears like a champion). Admittedly there are a few scenes I would've liked to witness: Hawke becoming Champion, for example. However, most other things that may have happened in the in between times are not relevent to the story of Hawke's Rise to Power. I'm sure there are some incidents that would make good DLC side-stories, but very few things (if any) happened in the time jumps that would have enchanced the central story.

[Obadiah]

If the plot of DA2 is about the rise of the Champion Hawke and the [spoiler removed] of the Chantry, then I'd expect the Chantry to have some "plan" to attempt to reconciel the situation- so that's not really a cliffhanger in my opinion, that was just obvious.

My only problem with it is that it was deliberately presented as a hook into another story, the same way the OGB was added at the last minute to Origins, and the player is never given a resolution to it. It's essentially the devs jerking the players around to get them to buy the next game - which, considering the state of the one just released, is not cool.

Modifié par Obadiah, 05 avril 2011 - 10:53 .

[Chris Priestly]

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