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[Dan UK]

Korusus wrote...

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

I've seen this from people in other threads...when did BioWare ever call Dragon Age a trilogy??  Where did that ridiculous notion come from?  Are people so pavlovian trained to assume that Dialogue Wheel = Mass Effect = Trilogy?

Mass Effect was planned as a trilogy from the very beginning.  Dragon Age is about Thedas, not any one story.

 I personaly knew that this series was not a 'Planned Trillogy' from the start.

 However they made it very clear they were allready thinking about the next game before they even finished this one. Shame realy, a game doesnt have to be so good it deserves a next in line now, they will just churn them out regardless, and purposefuly not conclude stories to try and lure more people into buying.

[Zanderat]

wtf?  nm

Modifié par Zanderat, 26 mars 2011 - 03:08 .

[Zanderat]

stupid forum... double post

Modifié par Zanderat, 26 mars 2011 - 03:07 .

[AFCommando]

have to love that they promised 10 years but we dont even play in half that and the last 3 years are just skipped.

[Zanderat]

PlumPaul82393 wrote...

Zanderat wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...

I think if you go through and do all the quests and listen to each part in depth, it is an excellent story. It may be a little shorter than DAO, but "quality over quantity" is what I see here.

*facepalm*

  aah this forum is really great for some laughs

We aim to please. 

[Deylar]

AFCommando wrote...
have to love that they promised 10 years but we dont even play in half that and the last 3 years are just skipped.

Bioware, "So I'm working on the last three years,"

EA, "Yeah, better finish,"

Bioware, "Wait...what..why?"

EA, "Well in three days the game is released,"

Bioware *wide mouth surprise*, "Sh%t"

EA, "Well better get on that,"

Bioware, "Uh we can fix this...we can fix this,"

Bioware other developer, "Just make the Champion disappear,"

Bioware, "That's a great idea!"

[PlumPaul93]

Deylar wrote...

AFCommando wrote...
have to love that they promised 10 years but we dont even play in half that and the last 3 years are just skipped.

Bioware, "So I'm working on the last three years,"

EA, "Yeah, better finish,"

Bioware, "Wait...what..why?"

EA, "Well in three days the game is released,"

Bioware *wide mouth surprise*, "Sh%t"

EA, "Well better get on that,"

Bioware, "Uh we can fix this...we can fix this,"

Bioware other developer, "Just make the Champion disappear,"

Bioware, "That's a great idea!"

and sadly all of that=profit

[Dragoonlordz]

Like I pointed out earlier, your $60 bought you 3 years of the advertised decade, your now going to have to spend at least that same amount again or more to play the remaining 7 years via DLC. This in turn makes it not excusable because it's part of a trilogy (DA:O you got a fairly complete ending minus Morrigane bit, every addon DLC happened after the ending of DA:O) but in DA2 the DLC is actually going to fill in 7 of the 10 years in the form of game play that took place before the end of the game and at great financial expense simply given how many years was skipped in DA2 with only a few sentences to explain those large jumps in time.

For this reason I do not approve and while I can understand people (fans) of the DA2 always jumping up to defend against every negative perception of the game just because it's out of habit, this aspect of the game is a very good and just reason why a lot of us aren't happy about it.

I'll give the devs the credit about being a interesting idea to make it the perspective of story being told BUT it should have been 7 playable years out of 10 with 3 DLC not 3 playable and 7 out of 10 DLC thats nothing more than a kick in the balls for the paying customer imho.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 26 mars 2011 - 03:54 .

[Night Prowler76]

knightblazer100 wrote...

Noone seems to reemember how they normally give us good expansions that if we are lucky will fill in this half a story problems if they expansion us like they did on the first game all this cncern will be unwarrented

They arent releasing big expansions like Awakening, they said they would release alot of small dlc items instead, meaning the resolution will end up being an hour long and a rip off.

[Deylar]

My opinion is this, a game shouldn't have DLC to complete itself.

If I am paying 60 dollars I expect a complete game.

I remember a day in age, when I played a game and beat it that's how I got my special weapons.

Now its, buy this game it has no goodies in it, beat it you get achievement points, but nothing shiny.

Achievement points are not rewards for beating the game.

Its just numbers and data. And that doesn't matter, imo.

What matters more is if I the player am rewarded for beating the game. Trophy hunting isn't fun.

But I do say I beat every quest, and have done every achievement for Oblivion because it was summer break and I had nothing better to do.

[MaximusPhoenix]

Pwnsaur wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...
. It may be a little shorter than DAO, but "quality over quantity" is what I see here.

HAHAHAHAHA. Yea.... Right.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and how they perceieve X or Y in a game. Yours differs, does not make yours or mine right or wrong.

/end

[monday]

Talogrungi wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...

Mad-Max90 wrote...

So 60 bucks for half a story?

$60, seriously?

I paid £27, for the sig edition, and that included P&P.

That's like $45. Why'd you pay 60?

Good point, actually. I paid about the same as you. Maybe he's in Singapore or New Zealand, they're both about $2 to the £1.

The game cost $120 NZD on release. On the current exchange rate that works out to $90 USD...

[AFCommando]

Deylar wrote...

AFCommando wrote...
have to love that they promised 10 years but we dont even play in half that and the last 3 years are just skipped.

Bioware, "So I'm working on the last three years,"

EA, "Yeah, better finish,"

Bioware, "Wait...what..why?"

EA, "Well in three days the game is released,"

Bioware *wide mouth surprise*, "Sh%t"

EA, "Well better get on that,"

Bioware, "Uh we can fix this...we can fix this,"

Bioware other developer, "Just make the Champion disappear,"

Bioware, "That's a great idea!"

yep, also there was NO CLOSURE what so ever, horrible ending to a horrible game.

[Logikal1]

MaximusPhoenix wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...
. It may be a little shorter than DAO, but "quality over quantity" is what I see here.

HAHAHAHAHA. Yea.... Right.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and how they perceieve X or Y in a game. Yours differs, does not make yours or mine right or wrong.

/end

You are mistaken. If you believe DA2 is "quality over quanity"  you are in fact wrong.

If you're unable to see that within the first hour of DA2 then I suggest you go back to enjoying Farmville.

[Persephone]

AFCommando wrote...

Deylar wrote...

AFCommando wrote...
have to love that they promised 10 years but we dont even play in half that and the last 3 years are just skipped.

Bioware, "So I'm working on the last three years,"

EA, "Yeah, better finish,"

Bioware, "Wait...what..why?"

EA, "Well in three days the game is released,"

Bioware *wide mouth surprise*, "Sh%t"

EA, "Well better get on that,"

Bioware, "Uh we can fix this...we can fix this,"

Bioware other developer, "Just make the Champion disappear,"

Bioware, "That's a great idea!"

yep, also there was NO CLOSURE what so ever, horrible ending to a horrible game.

I actually prefer endings without closure. DA2's ending left me hungry for more. I want to know what is going to happen next now that the world is on the brink of war and the two people who may make a difference are gone. I want to see how this chaos will be resolved. I prefer endings like this in books, movies as well as games. Even though when a series ends on a cliffhanger (Canceled), it hurts like hell. (Gabriel Knight series.......WHY?)

[Persephone]

Logikal1 wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...
. It may be a little shorter than DAO, but "quality over quantity" is what I see here.

HAHAHAHAHA. Yea.... Right.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and how they perceieve X or Y in a game. Yours differs, does not make yours or mine right or wrong.

/end

You are mistaken. If you believe DA2 is "quality over quanity"  you are in fact wrong.

If you're unable to see that within the first hour of DA2 then I suggest you go back to enjoying Farmville.

Whoa, whoa. I love DA2 myself. But an opinion is not a fact. It's perfectly valid to like OR dislike the game.

[Talogrungi]

Spuudle wrote...where u get the sig ed for £27? did u pre-order (which u were meant to do) but many stores in uk selling now? hmm. I paid £45 from game. I did pre-order though.

Dude, you got ripped. I paid £24.99 for the signature edition from Amazon, with P+P of £1.69 making it £27.02 or .. roughly $43 USD. Placed mine back in October; it pays to pre-order early.

[MaximusPhoenix]

Talogrungi wrote...

Spuudle wrote...where u get the sig ed for £27? did u pre-order (which u were meant to do) but many stores in uk selling now? hmm. I paid £45 from game. I did pre-order though.

Dude, you got ripped. I paid £24.99 for the signature edition from Amazon, with P+P of £1.69 making it £27.02 or .. roughly $43 USD. Placed mine back in October; it pays to pre-order early.

I thought everything in the UK was rounded to the nearest 5 pence? At least it was years ago when I lived there for a while. I much enjoyed never having an insane amount of coin in my pockets

[Talogrungi]

MaximusPhoenix wrote...

I thought everything in the UK was rounded to the nearest 5 pence? At least it was years ago when I lived there for a while. I much enjoyed never having an insane amount of coin in my pockets

Hah, no. We have a new national game now; save up all your pennies and put them in a predetermined vending machine at your workplace, then giggle when someone puts a pound coin into it and hits the copper jackpot.

[Logikal1]

Persephone wrote...

Logikal1 wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...
. It may be a little shorter than DAO, but "quality over quantity" is what I see here.

HAHAHAHAHA. Yea.... Right.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and how they perceieve X or Y in a game. Yours differs, does not make yours or mine right or wrong.

/end

You are mistaken. If you believe DA2 is "quality over quanity"  you are in fact wrong.

If you're unable to see that within the first hour of DA2 then I suggest you go back to enjoying Farmville.

Whoa, whoa. I love DA2 myself. But an opinion is not a fact. It's perfectly valid to like OR dislike the game.

Whoa whoa whoa learn to read

[PlumPaul93]

Logikal1 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Logikal1 wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...

Pwnsaur wrote...

MaximusPhoenix wrote...
. It may be a little shorter than DAO, but "quality over quantity" is what I see here.

HAHAHAHAHA. Yea.... Right.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and how they perceieve X or Y in a game. Yours differs, does not make yours or mine right or wrong.

/end

You are mistaken. If you believe DA2 is "quality over quanity"  you are in fact wrong.

If you're unable to see that within the first hour of DA2 then I suggest you go back to enjoying Farmville.

Whoa, whoa. I love DA2 myself. But an opinion is not a fact. It's perfectly valid to like OR dislike the game.

Whoa whoa whoa learn to read

[sevalaricgirl]

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

How was Origins a cliff hanger?  The arch demon was slain, Alistair was a wandering drunk, GW, dead or king.  PC was Hero/warden commander, left with Morrigan/Leliana, dead or if female married to or left with Alistair.  The ending was arch demon dead.

DA2 does not have an ending.  There was no end to the war between mages and templars which is cliff hanger material.

[graavigala85]

silentassassin264 wrote...

It is the middle story of a trilogy. Origins was a clifthanger and naturally DA2 was going to leave things open at the end as well. You can't complain about not getting the entire story from one installment of a series. That is just simple.

DragonAge was never said to be trilogy, DragonAge2 is just another aspect of the story that started in Origins and branched to different places and events.

DragonAgeOrigins told a whole story from the begining of introducing a problem and the hero, to the middle of solving a way to handle the problem and into the finale of ending the problem.

DA2 had too many problems to be solved within too short of time, no I dont mean the storys time ark. Each act introduced new problem to be solved and that made the mainstory broken and uneven in some places, especialy in the ending. The end comes just as a cliffhanger with no real answers.

So yes, DA2 is a story that is only partly told. It is unfinished story that leaves too many questions hanging and it feel nothing more than just a trick to get people buy DLC's...
I hope they dont tell story by using this methond but will make a whole expansion that adds +20hours of game time more and add Act4 to the game

Modifié par graavigala85, 26 mars 2011 - 08:11 .