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[nightlordv]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

 excuse me bioware, I love your games and frankly I love you as developers, but this game's story was a bit poor and I think what really needs to be brought up is the lack of an ending, I know that's what you guys wanted and all but thats just poor writing, no offence to the writers, but look at it through a gamer's perspective, I spent 100 dollars alltogether on this game, yes I bought the collector's guide too, see I really do love you guys, but it felt like a stab in the back when there was no real resoloution to the problems you create in the game, if played like this "Create problems, dissapear, end" you have a good climax but no resoloution that is a big no no, and that's just 7th grade writing class lessons, and there is a reason they teach that, no one wants to pay for 2/3 of a book or movie so why do that in a more expensive media outlet? 
Not to mention the gold grinding quests required in the first act was just done painfully and the fact that no matter how much gold you have prior to entering the caves you're walking out with only 50 gold pieces is kind of a slap in the face for people who did go the extra mile in doing quests for a little more gold thinking that they can wait and purchase better items in the next act.
`I also hate to be that guy to bring up the romances, but I'm going to, and I'm not hating on anybody that's not what this is about, this is my opinion and I am allowed to have one.  I do not think bioware should have gone the way they did regarding them, I also strongly disagree with a hetero ****** switch, that's disgusting to me, what I do wish they did was have a gay companion a bi companion and a hetero companion, it's equal to everybody, because lets face it, some gamers don't want everycharacter in the game to be bi, and I am bisexual, It is just not everyday i walk down the street and every man and woman wants to hop in the sheets. 

Thank you, I just had to get that off my chest:innocent:`

Don't worry you will know more of the story in $40 expansion packs and $7-$10 pieces of DLC.

[Mad-Max90]

I want to thank you guys/gals for your input

[JasonDaPsycho]

They're totally trying to throw out some DLC or expansion pack, knowing that we'll still buy them.

[fallingseraph]

I made this exact same statement about 60$ for a short game and my thread was closed and the mod told me books are all the same price no matter how long they are.

Meh

[PlumPaul93]

fallingseraph wrote...

I made this exact same statement about 60$ for a short game and my thread was closed and the mod told me books are all the same price no matter how long they are.

Meh

LOL

[CakesOnAPlane]

Really? I thought the ending was great. Sure it was different to Origins, but I kind of prefer it. But I was never a fan of the epilogue in Origins - much prefer that stuff to either be left to imagination or revealed in later games/expansions.

[Mad-Max90]

Well in all fairness the game was kind of long, but that dosn't mean that they took the game's length and utilised it in a way that would progress the story.
I don't hate the game, I just don't feel it's story was up there with other bioware games such as kotor , jade empire, and yes I'll go there mass effect.
Take mass effect 2, it's story had a big cliff hanger, but you were still making clear choices all the way till the end, and we all know that mass effect was going to be a trilogy that followed Shepard. Where on the other hand, Dragon Age was said to be about the world of thedas, so the lack of an ending with the main protagonist is a bit unnerving to say the least.

[AkiKishi]

Even though ME2 is a cliffhanger you did actually accomplish something.

[Conduit0]

*sigh* Why do people decide to whine and complain about things they don't understand instead of asking someone to explain it for them?

The story of DA 2 isn't about Hawke, its about the Champion of Kirkwall, yes Kawke happens to be the Champion, but thats irrelevant. The story isn't about Hawke's "life", its about the events surrounding the Champion which ultimately shakes the very foundation of life in Thedas. The story is told to its completion, whether Hawke continues to be a prominent figure or fades into legend is an unrelated matter.

[Dan UK]

Persephone wrote...



I actually prefer endings without closure. DA2's ending left me hungry for more. I want to know what is going to happen next now that the world is on the brink of war and the two people who may make a difference are gone. I want to see how this chaos will be resolved. I prefer endings like this in books, movies as well as games. Even though when a series ends on a cliffhanger (Canceled), it hurts like hell. (Gabriel Knight series.......WHY?)

 You are a marketing dream!

[Night Prowler76]

Conduit0 wrote...

*sigh* Why do people decide to whine and complain about things they don't understand instead of asking someone to explain it for them?

The story of DA 2 isn't about Hawke, its about the Champion of Kirkwall, yes Kawke happens to be the Champion, but thats irrelevant. The story isn't about Hawke's "life", its about the events surrounding the Champion which ultimately shakes the very foundation of life in Thedas. The story is told to its completion, whether Hawke continues to be a prominent figure or fades into legend is an unrelated matter.

I guess if the story has been told to completion, then Hawke wont return in any DLC then right, wink wink, give me a break.

[TJSolo]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Even though ME2 is a cliffhanger you did actually accomplish something.

No you didn't. The end of ME2 puts you in the exact place ME1 put you.

[Dan UK]

TJSolo wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

Even though ME2 is a cliffhanger you did actually accomplish something.

No you didn't. The end of ME2 puts you in the exact place ME1 put you.

 ME2 was smart enough to not put a massive emphasis on the reapers though, they were there yes, but the main focus was the collectors. DA2 fell down by doing the whole varric narrative, thats the only reason we are even LOOKING at the champion because of this varric narative, and so when that specific thing gives no closure whatsoever its a bigger slap in the face, for me anyway.

[MingWolf]

DA2 fell down by doing the whole varric narrative, thats the only reason we are even LOOKING at the champion because of this varric narative, and so when that specific thing gives no closure whatsoever its a bigger slap in the face

This.

The first thing I wanted to know when I first started the game was why the Seeker was so interested in the Champion, and Varric's story for that matter. I never knew the why when I finished. Not really, anyways. And then, it just finished.

[-Decay-]

I feel the same way, actually when I played the game I was under the impression it would be a whole decade, so I kind of screwed myself off that way. By year 6.. I thought I was at half the game or so, end battle... Narrative. Wait wait wait, thinking they would meet up with the Champion, and we'd get the Qunari or Mage war thing.. then credits.. Look at game. Oh.. it's over. -Pace pace- Arrghh... bah.. walks off.

Hehehe..

[neppakyo]

MingWolf wrote...

DA2 fell down by doing the whole varric narrative, thats the only reason we are even LOOKING at the champion because of this varric narative, and so when that specific thing gives no closure whatsoever its a bigger slap in the face

This.

The first thing I wanted to know when I first started the game was why the Seeker was so interested in the Champion, and Varric's story for that matter. I never knew the why when I finished. Not really, anyways. And then, it just finished.

I approve. x2.

[Vicious]

Ending was god awful.

Mass Effect 2's ending was epic awesome in comparison. I mean at least ME2's ending you knew what the point was by the end [[the collectors trying to create another Reaper to replace Sovereign and create chaos before the rest showed up]]

DA2's ending... no point in Varric's story. No questions answered at the end. NO IDEA WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN THEDAS AT THE TIME OF STORYTELLING!

It was so vague I despise it right now.

[Conduit0]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

*sigh* Why do people decide to whine and complain about things they don't understand instead of asking someone to explain it for them?

The story of DA 2 isn't about Hawke, its about the Champion of Kirkwall, yes Kawke happens to be the Champion, but thats irrelevant. The story isn't about Hawke's "life", its about the events surrounding the Champion which ultimately shakes the very foundation of life in Thedas. The story is told to its completion, whether Hawke continues to be a prominent figure or fades into legend is an unrelated matter.

I guess if the story has been told to completion, then Hawke wont return in any DLC then right, wink wink, give me a break.

And we see the results of the mighty education system, reading comprehension failure at its finest!
Thanks for playing though, we have some lovely parting gifts for you.

[scpulley]

Conduit0 wrote...

*sigh* Why do people decide to whine and complain about things they don't understand instead of asking someone to explain it for them?

The story of DA 2 isn't about Hawke, its about the Champion of Kirkwall, yes Kawke happens to be the Champion, but thats irrelevant. The story isn't about Hawke's "life", its about the events surrounding the Champion which ultimately shakes the very foundation of life in Thedas. The story is told to its completion, whether Hawke continues to be a prominent figure or fades into legend is an unrelated matter.

That's cute, except....who cares who people said he was? The never tied him to anything, like I said he could have been a pigfarmer for how much effect it had on the game. Regardless the world went to hell and lots of people died. I get that the story was about the title, not the man/woman, but if there isn't a primary character to the story, no one has anyone to attach to as the person they are seeing the world through. It's storytelling 101 that Bioware knows better than to skip out on or should.

[Medhia Nox]

And even becoming the Champion is so hollow it's pathetic.

You talk to the Arishok like - twice, maybe three times... then you fight him or send him away... and you're a Champion. The Arishok's little temper tantrum is hollow - instant - and nothing changes after it happens (yeah, Meredith goes crazy - because the Viscount really stood in her way of becoming mayor of crazy-town while he was alive).

They "tell" you this story - they don't "show" you anything. That's terrible writing.

It feels like the movie (not the books, never read them) The Golden Compass... it's all just a montage of events. "Okay, here's a girl! Wow! Okay... she's got a familiar/soul thing... got it? Okay... here's Nicole Kidman, groovy! Okay - quasi-steampunk city... rock'n. Okay, got it? Moving on... polar bears! Ice! Battle! Witches in the air! Craziness. End................. I could have sat on a bar stool and spun around real quick for the same sensation and likely took away the same memories that I got from Dragon Age 2 (mostly, why did I even think that would be fun? And, I'm never doing that again.)

[Conduit0]

scpulley wrote...

That's cute, except....who cares who people said he was? The never tied him to anything, like I said he could have been a pigfarmer for how much effect it had on the game. Regardless the world went to hell and lots of people died. I get that the story was about the title, not the man/woman, but if there isn't a primary character to the story, no one has anyone to attach to as the person they are seeing the world through. It's storytelling 101 that Bioware knows better than to skip out on or should.

Oh hey look, an actual intelligent responce! *SQUEEE*

Ahem, anyways I disagree with that sentiment, I felt Hawke's actions influenced the events whether directly or indirectly. For example, without Hawke the Deeproads expedition would never have gotten off the ground, which means the plot device would never have fallen into a certain act 3 antagonists hands resulting in her turning into a paranoid looney that cracks down on a particular group of people harder than ever before. Without Hawke's influence I believe Anders would have stayed in the undercity running his clinics and never got up the nerve nor even had the help to do what he did. Lastly and the most obvious, without Hawke there would have been no one to stop the act 2 antagonist after he finally gets fed up and goes on a rampage.

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

fallingseraph wrote...

I made this exact same statement about 60$ for a short game and my thread was closed and the mod told me books are all the same price no matter how long they are.

Meh

Clearly that mod has never been near a bookstore.

[Mad-Max90]

Conduit0 wrote...

scpulley wrote...

That's cute, except....who cares who people said he was? The never tied him to anything, like I said he could have been a pigfarmer for how much effect it had on the game. Regardless the world went to hell and lots of people died. I get that the story was about the title, not the man/woman, but if there isn't a primary character to the story, no one has anyone to attach to as the person they are seeing the world through. It's storytelling 101 that Bioware knows better than to skip out on or should.

Oh hey look, an actual intelligent responce! *SQUEEE*

Ahem, anyways I disagree with that sentiment, I felt Hawke's actions influenced the events whether directly or indirectly. For example, without Hawke the Deeproads expedition would never have gotten off the ground, which means the plot device would never have fallen into a certain act 3 antagonists hands resulting in her turning into a paranoid looney that cracks down on a particular group of people harder than ever before. Without Hawke's influence I believe Anders would have stayed in the undercity running his clinics and never got up the nerve nor even had the help to do what he did. Lastly and the most obvious, without Hawke there would have been no one to stop the act 2 antagonist after he finally gets fed up and goes on a rampage.

wow... you follow an insult with a squee... congrats. seriously though, no matter how much you sugercoat it by all standards of a story this game lacked an ending at least a proper ending because just having someone say oh I think that guy is still living, I'm not sure, is not a proper ending and it's really not a proper ending for a 60 dollar game, but hey at least there are people like you willing to accept a uncompleted game and then say well dlc will cover the rest of the story without thinking hey this really should have been included. Don't even get me started on the undoable quest thanks to lack of a trigger...really bioware...really=]

[MelfinaofOutlawStar]

Conduit0 wrote...

scpulley wrote...

That's cute, except....who cares who people said he was? The never tied him to anything, like I said he could have been a pigfarmer for how much effect it had on the game. Regardless the world went to hell and lots of people died. I get that the story was about the title, not the man/woman, but if there isn't a primary character to the story, no one has anyone to attach to as the person they are seeing the world through. It's storytelling 101 that Bioware knows better than to skip out on or should.

Oh hey look, an actual intelligent responce! *SQUEEE*

Ahem, anyways I disagree with that sentiment, I felt Hawke's actions influenced the events whether directly or indirectly. For example, without Hawke the Deeproads expedition would never have gotten off the ground, which means the plot device would never have fallen into a certain act 3 antagonists hands resulting in her turning into a paranoid looney that cracks down on a particular group of people harder than ever before. Without Hawke's influence I believe Anders would have stayed in the undercity running his clinics and never got up the nerve nor even had the help to do what he did. Lastly and the most obvious, without Hawke there would have been no one to stop the act 2 antagonist after he finally gets fed up and goes on a rampage.

Really you could say if Hawke didn't fork up the gold someone would have and the artifact would have still been found.

[NvVanity]

Mad-Max90 wrote...

Conduit0 wrote...

scpulley wrote...

That's cute, except....who cares who people said he was? The never tied him to anything, like I said he could have been a pigfarmer for how much effect it had on the game. Regardless the world went to hell and lots of people died. I get that the story was about the title, not the man/woman, but if there isn't a primary character to the story, no one has anyone to attach to as the person they are seeing the world through. It's storytelling 101 that Bioware knows better than to skip out on or should.

Oh hey look, an actual intelligent responce! *SQUEEE*

Ahem, anyways I disagree with that sentiment, I felt Hawke's actions influenced the events whether directly or indirectly. For example, without Hawke the Deeproads expedition would never have gotten off the ground, which means the plot device would never have fallen into a certain act 3 antagonists hands resulting in her turning into a paranoid looney that cracks down on a particular group of people harder than ever before. Without Hawke's influence I believe Anders would have stayed in the undercity running his clinics and never got up the nerve nor even had the help to do what he did. Lastly and the most obvious, without Hawke there would have been no one to stop the act 2 antagonist after he finally gets fed up and goes on a rampage.

wow... you follow an insult with a squee... congrats. seriously though, no matter how much you sugercoat it by all standards of a story this game lacked an ending at least a proper ending because just having someone say oh I think that guy is still living, I'm not sure, is not a proper ending and it's really not a proper ending for a 60 dollar game, but hey at least there are people like you willing to accept a uncompleted game and then say well dlc will cover the rest of the story without thinking hey this really should have been included. Don't even get me started on the undoable quest thanks to lack of a trigger...really bioware...really=]

You forgot to say "In my opinion" please don't speak for all us.