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[Razcalking1978]

From what I saw on the Warden's Quest event as well as various gameplay videos, it seems that the game will be near-impossible, even on normal settings, without a primary healer.

There are only two mages in the game - a huge mistake from my perspective. Why have 5+ warrior choices and only 2 mages?

Anyways, if Morrigan can't be turned into a decent healer (if she can't access the Spirit Healer spec)... does every successful party have to include the old lady?

[Chikkenstorm]

The old ladies had a good lobby, so yes, sadly enough, you'll have to bring her along. Else you'll get the granny-virus.

[Alphan_001]

you can always use potions

[Herr Uhl]

If you think that spirit healer is a must, probably. Either that or making one yourself.



I do not think that spirit healer is that crucial though.

[Taleroth]

I don't see why you think we need a Spirit Healer specialization to be a decent healer. She may not be an EXCELLENT healer, certainly not the BEST healer, but she can still probably be DECENT.

Modifié par Taleroth, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:01 .

[Raven2131990]

well not necessarily, since morrigan can heal, and i think the heal tree takes up like 4 talents if u want to max it, 8 if u want some buffs too. and theres always potions

[endaround]

You'll have more time to be careful on your play through.

[Selzurius]

First off, anyone planning on playing a Mage has the option of replacing Wynne in all of her fantastic matronly devotion. I am going to use a Mage as my main character.. however, I don't plan on making him a goodie two-shoes cleric that spends all his mana holding everyone's hands. He is going to rain down fire and brimstone on the Darkspawn. Because if that I am also very curious as to how malleable Morrigan is to the idea of becoming more of a support caster, and whether or not she can pick up the necessary skills to help make her an effective healer.



You'll see I asked that question in our UK boy's thread over there where you also voiced your concerns about being cornholed into bringing Wynne. For your sake, hopefully it will be enough to give Morrigan a basic healing spell and carry around some potions. For mine, I'm hoping Morrigan can be weaned from her hellish fury, and focus more on those Weakness / Disorient spells and pick up some healing qualities along the way.

[Razcalking1978]

True enough, if Morrigan can keep up with the healing with just those 4 spells, then that should be good enough. But the way they were dropping like flies in the Warden event even WITH Wynne...

[Althernai]

No. Remember, the people playing in Warden's Quest haven't had a chance to play the game for very long. Once you learn how to play, you could conceivably make do without a mage at all (though it would be harder). Most people who don't want Wynne in their current party will probably just give Morrigan (or the PC mage) the Heal spell and that should be adequate for most situations.

[GhoXen]

Don't plan on playing Nightmare without Wynne, or you yourself going a spirit healer.



As an experienced raider, I can say that Wynne is nothing compared to the spoiled healers, who by the way demand worshiping, some of the guilds I've went through had.

[Maria Caliban]

Razcalking1978 wrote...

From what I saw on the Warden's Quest event as well as various gameplay videos, it seems that the game will be near-impossible, even on normal settings, without a primary healer.

There are only two mages in the game - a huge mistake from my perspective. Why have 5+ warrior choices and only 2 mages?

Anyways, if Morrigan can't be turned into a decent healer (if she can't access the Spirit Healer spec)... does every successful party have to include the old lady?

You are not forced to take Wynne. You can be a mage yourself, you can use Morrigan as a healer, and there a non-magical methods of healing such as the potions made with the herbalism skill.

[Raven2131990]

this isnt a raid though, its a single player game. id imagine wynn is being cast as the standard healer, but you can always level morrigan up as a healer first

Modifié par Raven2131990, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:15 .

[jableskage]

just pick up as much loot as possible sell it and buy **** loads of healing potions... or just take wynne but then you need to pick up all the loot and sell it for mana potions so either way its gonna be 50/50.

[Necroe-]

remember, for healing you basically just need 1 point in the heal tree.

[On_Slaught]

I'm sure Wynne would make life easier, but considering how few healing spells there are in the game, you can easily have Morrigan pick up healing. What you lose? Buffs, but you can live without them more than healing. That, or your mage can be a healer of sorts.

I agree, however, that playing on Nightmare will most likely require Wynne and perhaps Shale for how much dmg you'll be taking.

My "nightmare" group will either be

Shale, Wynne, Myself as a warrior and either Zev or Morrigan (whoever does more dps)

or

Shale, Wynne, Myself as dps mage and the dwarf dude.

Modifié par On_Slaught, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:19 .

[GhoXen]

Raven2131990 wrote...

this isnt a raid though, its a single player game. id imagine wynn is being cast as the standard healer, but you can always level morrigan up as a healer first

Well, Nightmare kind of is.

Imagine the difficulty levels from a WoW player's perspective:

Casual - beating a bunch of non-elites.
Normal - beating a bunch of quest elites.
Hard - beating an instance.
Nightmare - beating an Heroic instance.

Now, any experienced WoW player would know that going into a Heroic instance with an off-spec healer is pretty much suicidal, while a somewhat good and skilled off-spec healer may just work on Normal/Hard.

[soteria]

One thing to remember about the WQ was that they were playing competitively. Is it optimum to have the best healer possible on harder difficulties? Maybe. Is it necessary? No.

[GhoXen]

soteria wrote...

One thing to remember about the WQ was that they were playing competitively. Is it optimum to have the best healer possible on harder difficulties? Maybe. Is it necessary? No.

We won't really know that until we play the game. Though the difficulty(or rather requirement) here smells like WoW-level.

[On_Slaught]

After reading that thread from the guy who played the game, it seems like Wynne is absolutely neccessary in a lot of situations. Shame.

[Razcalking1978]

From what I saw, and read, the Spanish group was completely unable to defeat a certain boss, on Normal settings, without a dedicated healer.

[TuringPoint]

Let's put it this way. If you have an issue with the game being too difficult without a healer, that's one thing; and you should probably play your game around compensating that.

If that's all you're worried about, deal with it. You'll have a much happier life if you do.

Modifié par Alocormin, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:33 .

[Fulgrim88]

GhoXen wrote...
We won't really know that until we play the game. Though the difficulty(or rather requirement) here smells like WoW-level.

Which isn't that much, really. You could   beat almost everything with an offspec healer if he knew what he was doing (the main problem was that most didn't) and that was even back when the game wasn't so casual;)
/end sort-of rant

Modifié par Fulgrim88, 29 octobre 2009 - 07:33 .

[Razcalking1978]

Alocormin wrote...

Let's put it this way. If you have an issue with the game being too difficult without a healer, that's one thing; and you should probably play your game around compensating that.

If that's all you're worried about, deal with it. You'll have a much happier life if you do.

No, I'll have an issue if the game is impossible without a dedicated healer, and they only gave me one real character that can do that.

Imagine if they only offered you one choice of a warrior that could act as a useful tank, and if you wanted to succeed at all, you had to take that one tank, even if he was annoying as all-out.

[GhoXen]

Fulgrim88 wrote...

Which isn't that much, really. You could   beat almost everything with an offspec healer if he knew what he was doing (the main problem was that most didn't) and that was even back when the game wasn't so casual;)
/end sort-of rant

True, but just as I mentioned before: normal instances may work with off-spec healers, while Heroics probably won't.