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[knownastherat]

There is a crucial difference between predictability of economic events and looking for ideal party here and now. The economic experts do not believe they live in a matrix.

[tsneis]

I wished we didn't have to used that old hag. Saving the world from darkspawn is for the young.

[Edelwolf]

just *maybe* on nightmare, but on hard Wynn is not needed.



Healing pots are cheap with herbalism.

[F-C]

you can play a healer yourself, take morrigan and turn her into a healer, or use buttloads of heal potions.

using wynn is the easiest way to go, but it is certainly not required.

[Grommash94]

It is ideal to have her. Not necessary though. Morrigan does fine, or you can be the healer. Or just use pots.

[Zvampfar]

Tbh I completed the game without Wynn (didn't know I could get her), Morrigan as cc, and only using pots to heal the first time completed the game.. This was normal setting. Healing is not a must, but if your not counting on the extra heals you better make sure you can split up your enemies..

[Zvampfar]

 Acually.. What I wanted to say was, this game can be completed in allot of diffrent ways, only thing you need is smart tactics and singel controlled party (forget about AI-tactics). If you wanna complete the game in Nightmare I would suggest a healer though.. :happy:

[Koralis]

Razcalking1978 wrote...

From what I saw, and read, the Spanish group was completely unable to defeat a certain boss, on Normal settings, without a dedicated healer.

Just because the spaniards suck doesn't mean that a dedicated healer is neccessary.  I just finished a Hard run with only the "Heal" spell memorized.  Even that I rarely used and could have gotten by without it if I was willing to spend more in bigger potions.

[borelocin]

Wynne irritates me, so I tend to respec Morrigan as a healer if I am not playing a mage myself.



If the question is "do I need a Spirit Healer" then it's a conditional no - the condition being you have made stackloads of potions, stackloads of grenados, have every effective crowd control and are micro-managing combat.

[bobtheworm]

I think most of you underestimate Wynne's Value. Spiritual Healer's value is not in healing. Matter of a fact there is only 1 heal in the bunch and it is a group heal. The real value is in Revival and Cleansing Aura. When you are fighting Broodmother or dragons and they use their instance klll abilities on your main tank you will see the value of Revival. Cleansing Aura just saves on your injury kits.



I will have to say that my "Chantry" party is and has been the best party. I have mixed it up a bit on some quest but have Alistair, Wynne, and Leliana as the NPC on my main party. This always worked out except when I my main character was a rogue. Then there was no need for Leliana and a need for Support DPS.

[TanithAeyrs]

I am on my third playthrough- 1st was Dalish rogue on normal, 2nd Elven mage- normal. Now I am playing a human noble warrior on hard. This is the first time I will use Wynne outside of the tower. I tried a little 1st playthrough but she is exceptionally squishy. I brought Morrigan with me a lot the first playthrough and only gave her 1 heal spell. So, no Wynne is not essential. I currently am not even using a mage until I pick up Wynne. Remember, dead enemies do no damage and sneaky rogues can often damage or kill enemies before combat even really starts. I have lots of fun with 2 rogue parties....

[esayem]

Didnt know you could get her... how DO you get her?

[Duck and Cover]

Only takes a few spells to be a healer. Doesn't take long for Morrigan to be a healer. The bad thing is Morrigan starts off with some crappy spells already, and you also need to get her some aoe damage spells and aoe cc. So it takes a while to get Morrigan decent.

Anyways heal, group heal, and rejuvenation is all you need. The rest just rely on pots. regeneration is nice as well, and it's a prereq.

And if you play a mage, you don't need either of those losers. I don't care for either character that much. Morrigan is a ****, and Wynn is just too good, and puts her nose in my business.

Modifié par Duck and Cover, 24 décembre 2009 - 11:11 .

[menasure]

well i play on normal and i'm using wynne now in my 3th run ... first time i used her. in my first run i had my own mage with a few healing spells, in the second run morrigan became a spirit healer so it's possible to play at that difficulty without wynne. without a healer the consequence is swallowing more potions ... unlimited supplies for elfroot are in the dalish camp (as long as the elves control it) and unlimited lyrium is available at the mage tower.

i have to say though that picking wynne is the easiest solution, at least it sometimes seems very easy with 2 shield wielders and dog because i can just attack head on most of the time ... which is fine by me because i just want to explore a few outcomes in a fast way while i already know most of the story and tactics from the previous plays so i am not looking for a challenge.

Modifié par menasure, 24 décembre 2009 - 11:37 .

[XOGHunter246]

Kind off if your PC isn't a mage as she has her spiritheal tree already there. You can use morrigan as alternative but as she is more of damager and will take longer to get spiritheal tree filled.

[krsboss]

...Wynne's value is not only in healing but buffing aswell...having haste spell persistently active is certainly a lot more useful than not having it active! ...if people think mages are really good for much else than healing and buffs, then try to solo the game on easy with one! ...the use of mana and their general squishyness means they cannot reasonably take out a large group of enemies...



...no, Wynne is not really necessary, however in order to make Morrigan as good a party support as Wynne you have to wait 10+ levels and a couple of books!

[Original182]

Wynne makes things easier, but she is not needed. Morrigan can be your healer, and she has other advantages to help make things easier as well. Instead of mass healing, Morrigan can be specced to do area 'stuns' like Mass Paralysis, Sleep, etc. So in the end you survive due to mass stuns rather than mass heals.

[AndreaDraco]

I always had Wynne in the party, usually because I love her banter with Zevran, but also because I played a heavy DPS Mage (with just a splash of CC) during my first playthrough (Primal - Fire, Cold, Electricity; Spirit - Mana, Mind, Walking Bomb), and Wynne is perfect to buff/debuff (I gave her the Hex chain). My party is usually: Me (DPS mage), Zevran (DPS rogue), Alistair (tank) and Wynne (Healing, buff/debuff).

[Finiffa]

After my first playthrough I was having enough of Wynne and her constant comments about duty and my romances...so I park her in my camp usually nowadays. I dislike that I have to take her thru the Circle or kill her.



I played on hard with a warrior and Morrigan as healer, she only had the basic heal spel and I made her Spirit healer at 14, I used potions for the rest. I'm playing a mage currently so now I use neither Morrigan nor Wynne, I have the one heal spell and the group heal from Spirithealer, thats good enough. I think the buffs are underwhelming so I don't get them.



People solo thru nightmare on warriors and rogues too, so I guess you can skip a healer alltogether....

[Lotus Scriptor]

tsneis wrote...

I wished we didn't have to used that old hag. Saving the world from darkspawn is for the young.

Sad to see how ageism is alive and well in the RPG community. Sexism too, no doubt - would tsneis and his cohorts object to a male mage of advanced years? Methinks not.

No one has to like Wynne, and there's nothing wrong with expressing this - but using unpleasant epithets that could hurt one's fellow-gamers should not have any place in any online forum. I, for instance, am a 63 year old woman. Yep, an old hag! And proud of it!

Oh, and one more thing - saving the world can't be done unless it's done by everyone.

Congratulations to Bioware for having the courage to create an important character who is not just elderly, but elderly and female, thus challenging the two most persistent prejudices of our time.

[Vicious]

For what it's worth, Wynne was one of those characters I really liked when I first got her, and then disliked her more with every subsequent playthrough, till now where, like Alistair, I can't stand her.

[Costin_Razvan]

If your main character is a mage you can make him a healer and dps, perhaps even stronger then Wynne is.



But if you aren't a mage...though luck.

[Titius.Vibius]

No, you can respec Morrigan also to have the heal skills.

[AtreiyaN7]

You could always make Morrigan heal, I mean she is a mage too...you could spec her that way...I have played through a few bits without a healer or damage-dealing mage. It's doable, just not necessarily easy. In some areas however, it does seem like a necessity (unless you like driving yourself insane, in which case stick to the healing poultices - hah)..