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[Fluffykeith]

Well, he IS a bit abrasive...the way he treats adorable little Merril is just plain crappy...maybe he needs to be told in a way he understands

[Beamobaby]

Apparently there was a non olive branch dialogue option earlier that could nip it in the bud but I guess you, me, and I'm thinking a lot of people stuck with the olive branch.

After he kept coming despite not selecting the heart I was thinking "did the olive branch option have a hidden smile and wink in it?" lolz

[Beamobaby]

Shavon,

When you said asking for non-aggressive NPCs was like wanting "chaste little virgins with no personality diversity to romance" that's not very diplomatic.

[ratzerman]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Beamobaby wrote...

Shavon,

When you said asking for non-aggressive NPCs was like wanting "chaste little virgins with no personality diversity to romance" that's not very diplomatic.

lol tis true

She wasn't the one to start in with the "obvious troll is obvious" crap.

[Beamobaby]

Well, my troll comment was in response to the chaste little virgins comment but I guess I shouldn't have gone there.

Shavon, I'm sorry. I'll try to keep things a bit more respectful if you return. I just ask the same.

[sheppard7]

Shavon wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

Yeah, exactly. Bioware in their ATTEMPT (poorly executed attempt at that) to be P.C. shows lack of character development which used to be their strong point over other companies. I have no issues with what they TRIED to do. My issue is how badly they did it.

In your opinion. 

It's not poorly executed at all.  I have a straight FemHawke, a bisexal FemHawke and a gay MHawke. The story has been playing out fairly well for them.  

As you don't provide a decent reason for this, er, claim, your post is invalid.

Too bad real life friends don't act as Bioware claims they should by just putting unwanted advances on straight people. And that is actually a very poor stereotype of how gays supposedly act.

Basically Bioware makes Anders act the way homophobes think all gays act.

Modifié par sheppard7, 27 mars 2011 - 11:18 .

[jlb524]

Okay, people don't like that Anders makes the first move...fine.

1: This is not limited to the m/m version of the romance....it's the same for the f/m one. The same thing happened with my LadyHawke and I gained Rival points. It's not even limited to Anders or this game and I've played through games with unwanted attention from potential straight romance party members. Like, DA:O. Alistair.

2: Given '1', I can't see how this has anything to do with bisexual romances in general.

[Beamobaby]

Is everyone watching this thread at least in agreement that the mere existence of bisexuals in the game is no issue at all?

[The Angry One]

sheppard7 wrote...

Too bad real life friends don't act as Bioware claims they should by just putting unwanted advances on straight people. And that is actually a very poor stereotype of how gays supposedly act.

Basically Bioware makes Anders act the way homophobes think all gays act.

Your real life friends. And as great as your friends may be they don't represent the entirety of all gay, straight or bi people in the universe. Anders just happens to be pushy and impulsive. This is not a stereotype, it's a character trait.

[jlb524]

sheppard7 wrote...

Too bad real life friends don't act as Bioware claims they should by just putting unwanted advances on straight people. And that is actually a very poor stereotype of how gays supposedly act.

Basically Bioware makes Anders act the way homophobes think all gays act.

It could also be a very poor stereotype of how all straight men act...prone to make unwanted advances on women...


So, Alistair macking on my Warden is in poor taste?

[Fluffykeith]

"Is everyone watching this thread at least in agreement that the mere existence of bisexuals in the game is no issue at all?"

It would be nice if they were. I personally dont see it as a problem. I tihnk its better that Bioware acknowledges that the player base is wide enough that they can allow for a variety of options.

"1: This is not limited to the m/m version of the romance....it's the same for the f/m one. The same thing happened with my LadyHawke and I gained Rival points. It's not even limited to Anders or this game and I've played through games with unwanted attention from potential straight "

That was going to be my next point, in response to Sheppard 7...ya got there before me Jib...
Its not about whether hes acting in a certain way as a gay person, or a bisexual person, or whatever...Anders merely makes the pass at Hawke, whatever gender Hawke happens to be in that runthrough. Hes acting like ANDERS, not like some stereotype gay person.

[The Angry One]

Think about it for a minute, should there be a way to let Anders down gently?
I say again, this is the same man who will become broody and resentful over the loss of a CAT. He is clearly more emotionally fragile than your average person.

[Fluffykeith]

Some people form strong emotional bonds with their pets, you know.

[sheppard7]

jlb524 wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

Too bad real life friends don't act as Bioware claims they should by just putting unwanted advances on straight people. And that is actually a very poor stereotype of how gays supposedly act.

Basically Bioware makes Anders act the way homophobes think all gays act.

It could also be a very poor stereotype of how all straight men act...prone to make unwanted advances on women...


So, Alistair macking on my Warden is in poor taste?

You're allowed to say that's in poor taste as well. Just I didn't know the thread was about Alistair. He did advances in DA2 too? He was a drunkard in one playthrough and king in another that's married so is there a third playboy Alistair appearance in DA2?

[The Angry One]

Fluffykeith wrote...

Some people form strong emotional bonds with their pets, you know.

I know but given everything else he has to deal with his excessive broodiness on this is telling.

[Icinix]

The Angry One wrote...

Think about it for a minute, should there be a way to let Anders down gently?
I say again, this is the same man who will become broody and resentful over the loss of a CAT. He is clearly more emotionally fragile than your average person.

..there should have been an option to remove him from the game earlier on for reasons that were clear later....<_<

Could have saved a lot of lives that were lost because of his emotionally fragile state.

Stoopid Anders.

Regardless. Thats off topic. Yes. There should have been a way to let him down easy.  The only options you got were "Flirt" or "Intimidated".  I didn't like that. Because that wasn't me nor my Hawke.

[sheppard7]

The Angry One wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

Too bad real life friends don't act as Bioware claims they should by just putting unwanted advances on straight people. And that is actually a very poor stereotype of how gays supposedly act.

Basically Bioware makes Anders act the way homophobes think all gays act.

Your real life friends. And as great as your friends may be they don't represent the entirety of all gay, straight or bi people in the universe. Anders just happens to be pushy and impulsive. This is not a stereotype, it's a character trait.

He's portrayed as the stereotype. So it would be okay in your mind for Bioware to make a black hero in the next game that likes fried chicken and watermelon and looks like Chicken George to you? While that's not all of the race to be that way there are some who are. Does that make it right for Bioware to be that way?

Why stop there? Next it'll be jew stereotype. Then what's next for Bioware?

[The Angry One]

sheppard7 wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

Too bad real life friends don't act as Bioware claims they should by just putting unwanted advances on straight people. And that is actually a very poor stereotype of how gays supposedly act.

Basically Bioware makes Anders act the way homophobes think all gays act.

Your real life friends. And as great as your friends may be they don't represent the entirety of all gay, straight or bi people in the universe. Anders just happens to be pushy and impulsive. This is not a stereotype, it's a character trait.

He's portrayed as the stereotype. So it would be okay in your mind for Bioware to make a black hero in the next game that likes fried chicken and watermelon and looks like Chicken George to you? While that's not all of the race to be that way there are some who are. Does that make it right for Bioware to be that way?

Why stop there? Next it'll be jew stereotype. Then what's next for Bioware?

Anders being a little pushy because it's in is nature to need companionship is a stereotype?

[Beamobaby]

Nicely spoken The Angry One! But who was his one true love? Ser Pounce-A-Lot or Karl?

Heh, I'm perfectly willing to take any reasons people come up with. I just ask that others don't hound those of us who just voice that we would've liked it differently.

It's great that there are a variety of love interest for a more inclusive audience.
It's great that some of the LIs make the first move.

We just wanted Anders to be less pushy and suggest less aggressive LIs for the next game.