Purgatious wrote...
I don't care for an apology, just admit they failed their fanbase. They can apologise in the form of a decent 3rd game.
dheer wrote...
Great justice? I don't agree with demanding an apology or anything silly like that but that quote could hardly come off as more whiny, "don't attack my art, you just don't get it" bs I've seen.ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...
Quote for great justice;
"Fans are clingy, complaining dip****s that will never ever be grateful for any concession you make. The sooner you shut out their shrill, tremulous voices the happier you'll be."
It's likely that we'll end up coming back to a way to equip your followers, but at the same time, I really do think that having their own visual signature is really important.
I would question anyone who was 100 percent confident in anything they've designed. There's always room to improve, and there's always room to tune and look (at) what effects they have.
OMG BUT THAT WOULD BE MAKING THE GAME MORE COMPLEX...Wait I thought he was supposed to be all about dumbing down yo?My next big goal is to make sure that there are deeper interactions with crafting or the next steps in terms of being able to do more than talk, fight, and disarm traps.
There's a fairly wide spread of things to do. But I think as a player, saying "OK cool. You did a lot of cool work here, but I would like more. I'd like to be able to interact with my world more"--that's a perfectly fair request, and that's one we're hoping to address as we go forward.
It's always valid. You have to take a read of what the fans are saying, what reviews are saying, and what the non-fans are saying. Are there people out there who are saying, "I could not play Origins, but love Dragon Age II" or "I couldn't play Origins and this is more of the same." You have to keep your ear to the ground. Look at forums. Take a look at what comments are coming up. What are the common concerns? What are the common perceptions?
OK, look. BioWare owe you nothing of the sort. Have you played Mass Effect: Galaxy? It makes DA2 looks like it's the most polished game ever. The controls are a bit of a mess, it's not particularly good and it's quite the half-arsed effort. BioWare have not apologised for it, but instead said it was a risk they took, one they're glad they did, because they learnt from it. Heck, they've not even apologised for the shocking Awakening expansion, which is one of the buggiest and least polished 'professional' products I've played in some time.CRISIS1717 wrote...
Actually I want Mike Laidlaw and David Gaider to livestream the apology so I can see they are sincere when they apologise.
CRISIS1717 wrote...
Actually I want Mike Laidlaw and David Gaider to livestream the apology so I can see they are sincere when they apologise.
Serpieri Nei wrote...
Don't want an apology - want an enhanced version at no cost that addressed all the issues.
Monica83 wrote...
*shakes her head* poor humanity
BeefoTheBold wrote...
I'm not thinking a formal apology is needed, but I'd love to see some hinting that they're hearing and internalizing the feedback in the interviews I read.
When I read Laidlaw's interviews I come away with an overwhelming impression he's thinking, "The critics and gamers who don't like my game can go **** themselves. I'm rescuing their dying genre and (Arishok voice) THEY SHOULD BE GRATEFUL!"
Laidlaw doesn't seem to think he made any mistakes in making this game and his interviews all seem to say, "We made the right call, but people just don't get it. So we'll release another few games like this until they understand we're doing the right thing!"
Monica83 wrote...
Thank for what?....
Copy pasted areas?
Strip roleplay elements from rpg games?
Making a shorter title all on the whole city and in the same 10 areas?
For making manga trash anims and character ala final fantasy that total don't fit with dragon age universe?(aka fenris)
To take elves and turn them in anorexic gremlings? Or stramlized na'vi?
To add a dialog wheel that to be use need icons!?
To add no sense thing like ennemys that jumps out from nowhere?
To waste a nice background of a world to release a garbage sequel?
To be inchoerent with character choices? (Leliana like Jesus that resurrect)
Come on people you can't be so blind
Baelyn wrote...
dheer wrote...
Great justice? I don't agree with demanding an apology or anything silly like that but that quote could hardly come off as more whiny, "don't attack my art, you just don't get it" bs I've seen.ZerbanDaGreat1 wrote...
Quote for great justice;
"Fans are clingy, complaining dip****s that will never ever be grateful for any concession you make. The sooner you shut out their shrill, tremulous voices the happier you'll be."
Here are a couple of quotes from Laidlaw himself (the man people so vehemently attack as being delusional and thinking DA2 is perfect.) Its funny that people simply deny these parts of his statements. Even after posting on several threads, calling people out on which of his quotes they are basing his "insults to fans" and his "delusional attitude towards DA2" I never got responses. So here are my quotes showing, hey, maybe the guy isn't the devil these people so desparately want him to be:
On companion character customization...It's likely that we'll end up coming back to a way to equip your followers, but at the same time, I really do think that having their own visual signature is really important.
When asked about how confident he was in the changes...I would question anyone who was 100 percent confident in anything they've designed. There's always room to improve, and there's always room to tune and look (at) what effects they have.
OMG BUT THAT WOULD BE MAKING THE GAME MORE COMPLEX...Wait I thought he was supposed to be all about dumbing down yo?My next big goal is to make sure that there are deeper interactions with crafting or the next steps in terms of being able to do more than talk, fight, and disarm traps.
On feedback...There's a fairly wide spread of things to do. But I think as a player, saying "OK cool. You did a lot of cool work here, but I would like more. I'd like to be able to interact with my world more"--that's a perfectly fair request, and that's one we're hoping to address as we go forward.
When directly asked about fan feedback...It's always valid. You have to take a read of what the fans are saying, what reviews are saying, and what the non-fans are saying. Are there people out there who are saying, "I could not play Origins, but love Dragon Age II" or "I couldn't play Origins and this is more of the same." You have to keep your ear to the ground. Look at forums. Take a look at what comments are coming up. What are the common concerns? What are the common perceptions?
Now it remains to be seen if this will happen.
True, Some people are burdened with being better than the lesser people.Baelyn wrote...
Monica83 wrote...
*shakes her head* poor humanity
Yes. Poor, poor humanity because they liked a video game that you didn't. A travesty I tell ya.
Speak for yourself please you don't speak for the majority so don't keep pretending you do.CRISIS1717 wrote...
They need to apologise to their fans, it's the honourable thing to do when you know you made a huge mistake and disappointed your fans.
Serpieri Nei wrote...
Don't want an apology - want an enhanced version at no cost that addressed all the issues.
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