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After playing both Dragon Age games, there are some elements that are still not explained. I will not say that everything has to make sense and be explained (mistery is part of the fun), but just for the sake of clarification, I´d like to rise some questions:

-What are the eluvians exactly and how they can "infect" people with the tain? I hoped to get more details with Merrill´s quest but due to the bug on that, I never really got what happened to the mirror. Morrigan was able to open a portal to somewhere far away, but I don´t know if that´s the only capacity of the eluvians.

-The sacred ashes. Lyrium, divine intervention, the veil too torn.... I guess we´ll never know.

-Spirits and demons. Incarnation of sentiend beings´ emotions or pre-existing beings? In that line, why can´t dwarfs interact with the Fade when dreaming but they can be "transported" with magic?

-Red and blue lyrium. Corruption, different kinds, blood magic...?

-Where the Qunari originaly come from? UFO´s? Other dimensions? Is Thedas part of a planet?

-The Black City is the myth of the Axis Mundi in Thedas but since it has "physical reality", what is it? Arlathan? Maker´s dirty condo?

-Are dragons inteligent beings? Are the Old Gods just trapped dragons?

-If Flemeth is "not an abomination, a blood mage or entirely human", what is she?

-Magic is in the genes it seems but is it a trait that everyone has or something like blood types?

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Statulos wrote...

-What are the eluvians exactly and how they can "infect" people with the tain? I hoped to get more details with Merrill´s quest but due to the bug on that, I never really got what happened to the mirror. Morrigan was able to open a portal to somewhere far away, but I don´t know if that´s the only capacity of the eluvians.


Not all Eluvians do, *that* Eluvian did and doesn't anymore.
They act as portals to the Fade and communication devices, it's possible the Eluvian in DA:O opened a portal to the Black City.. hence the taint.

-The sacred ashes. Lyrium, divine intervention, the veil too torn.... I guess we´ll never know.


Doesn't really need an explanation, several possibilities are given and left open to interpretation.

-Spirits and demons. Incarnation of sentiend beings´ emotions or pre-existing beings? In that line, why can´t dwarfs interact with the Fade when dreaming but they can be "transported" with magic?


Well, because it's magic I guess. Dwarves just don't go to the Fade naturally, being transported there by external sources is another matter.

-Red and blue lyrium. Corruption, different kinds, blood magic...?


Red is raw, blue is refined... I think.

-Where the Qunari originaly come from? UFO´s? Other dimensions?


Another continent most likely.

Is Thedas part of a planet?


No it's a plate on top of four elephants and a turtle.

-The Black City is the myth of the Axis Mundi in Thedas but since it has "physical reality", what is it? Arlathan? Maker´s dirty condo?


A Reaper.
Maybe they'll reveal it in DA3, or maybe it's just one of those things that are best left to in-lore myth.

-Are dragons inteligent beings? Are the Old Gods just trapped dragons?


High Dragons are, and yes. Particularily powerful ones, of course.

-If Flemeth is "not an abomination, a blood mage or entirely human", what is she?


A dragon!
Maybe Old God, maybe the Maker. Or not. But one thing's for sure. "You can never be a dragon." :crying:

-Magic is in the genes it seems but is it a trait that everyone has or something like blood types?


I don't think Thedas has the science to work that one out. :P

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Statulos wrote...

After playing both Dragon Age games, there are some elements that are still not explained. I will not say that everything has to make sense and be explained (mistery is part of the fun), but just for the sake of clarification, I´d like to rise some questions:

-What are the eluvians exactly and how they can "infect" people with the tain? I hoped to get more details with Merrill´s quest but due to the bug on that, I never really got what happened to the mirror. Morrigan was able to open a portal to somewhere far away, but I don´t know if that´s the only capacity of the eluvians.

I suppose a gateway to the fade? maybe that is how the elves of old survived so long in their sleep? that is what i understood.

-The sacred ashes. Lyrium, divine intervention, the veil too torn.... I guess we´ll never know.

agreed

-Spirits and demons. Incarnation of sentiend beings´ emotions or pre-existing beings? In that line, why can´t dwarfs interact with the Fade when dreaming but they can be "transported" with magic? 

not sure bout demons. but like templars perhaps because of the dwarves proximity they've lost their connection?

-Red and blue lyrium. Corruption, different kinds, blood magic...?

always thought it was the duality of good vs evil, blue vs red.

-Where the Qunari originaly come from? UFO´s? Other dimensions? Is Thedas part of a planet?

it's part of a planet. the qunari came from far away.

-The Black City is the myth of the Axis Mundi in Thedas but since it has "physical reality", what is it? Arlathan? Maker´s dirty condo?

not sure it has a physical reality

-Are dragons inteligent beings? Are the Old Gods just trapped dragons?

i dont think well know that

-If Flemeth is "not an abomination, a blood mage or entirely human", what is she?

elf :P

-Magic is in the genes it seems but is it a trait that everyone has or something like blood types?

blood type i think

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I started to write up a list of setting questions unanswered at the end of Dragon Age II and stopped at question 76. I ought to do it again and post it, but it's all in vain. We're never going to get the answers, only more questions.

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Statulos wrote...
-If Flemeth is "not an abomination, a blood mage or entirely human", what is she?


good ol' Ashnebellenar reminds me of a D&D monster called a Lich only she appears to have a living body.  My guess is that she is in fact the dragon age version of one.

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Eluvian is basically a gateway to another world/place/dimension. If said dimension happens to be filled with darkspawn or taint...
Sacred Ashes? It's a good adsorbent, can cure poison. Cured Arl Eamon (the hobo beard).
Spirits and demons are basically same thing. It's a sentient race, created before humans, dwarfs etc. Dwarfs simply has little connection to the fade normally - they enter it only when it's enforced via powerful magic.
Red lyrium is somewhat corrupted? Yes, I suppose.
Qunari probably came from faraway continent across the sea.
Black City is the Beard of the Maker. He abandoned it. He abandoned everything.
Dragons are somewhat intelligent, as monkeys or dolphins IRL. Old Gods are not dragons, they simply had dragon bodies once.
Flemeth is Fen'Harel living inside a human host (a woman who accepted him). He seem to have 2 forms - a wolf and a dragon. Anyway, he's the only Maker's first creation still living in mortal world.
Magic seem to be gene related indeed. Real life rules are probably inapplicable, but it seems like partial dominance is what we're dealing with.

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The spirit and deamon thing is... According to the Chantry. However, if demons and spirits "feed" on emotions, it´s fairly impossible that they could even exist before something had emotions.

For the planet... Well, in other games such as Myth (Fallen Lords, Soulblighter...), the world is actually flat, so it would not be the first time to encounter a non-planet.

Maria, BTW; feel free to resurrect your thread and I can just request this one to be deleted.  I don´t really want answers from the developers, just a "yeah, we´re aware of that and it´s under control" is more than enough for me.

Modifié par Statulos, 26 mars 2011 - 10:29 .


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Statulos wrote...
-Magic is in the genes it seems but is it a trait that everyone has or something like blood types?


The Tevinter imperium compiled a list of "magical families". So it seems to be limited to a few genealogical lines. Unless this "mage gene" is spreading.

Sandal does say: "One day the magic will come back. all of it. Everyone will be just like they were. "

Which seems to indicate that everyone had magic. Could be a reference to Arlathan elves, who I think all possessed magic.

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The Qunari are obviously related to the Krogan...
Flemeth is a Reaper
Sacred Ashes=Lazarus Project...
Red lyrium looks better at parties compared to blue lyrium..combination of both is nice
Eluvians is the elf version of facebook, twitter.

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KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Statulos wrote...
-Magic is in the genes it seems but is it a trait that everyone has or something like blood types?


The Tevinter imperium compiled a list of "magical families". So it seems to be limited to a few genealogical lines. Unless this "mage gene" is spreading.

Sandal does say: "One day the magic will come back. all of it. Everyone will be just like they were. "

Which seems to indicate that everyone had magic. Could be a reference to Arlathan elves, who I think all possessed magic.


Reavers originate from people drinking dragon´s blood. Their capacities (life draining), while not technicaly magic (it´s not an interaction from the Fade) seem to be close it. So maybe there is some sort of inherent magical capacity.

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Statulos wrote...
Reavers originate from people drinking dragon´s blood. Their capacities (life draining), while not technicaly magic (it´s not an interaction from the Fade) seem to be close it. So maybe there is some sort of inherent magical capacity.


I think there is inherent magical ability in the blood of dragons.

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I don't think the old gods are just powerful High Dragons due to the fact that there is no such thing as a male High Dragon, however there are male Old Gods. The Archdemon of the 5th blight is described as being male in the codex, i don't think the rest were specifically assigned a gender but i cant be sure.

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Dark-sider77 wrote...

I don't think the old gods are just powerful High Dragons due to the fact that there is no such thing as a male High Dragon, however there are male Old Gods. The Archdemon of the 5th blight is described as being male in the codex, i don't think the rest were specifically assigned a gender but i cant be sure.


Which could just be what the Tevinters assigned to them in their own mythology.

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The Angry One wrote...

Dark-sider77 wrote...

I don't think the old gods are just powerful High Dragons due to the fact that there is no such thing as a male High Dragon, however there are male Old Gods. The Archdemon of the 5th blight is described as being male in the codex, i don't think the rest were specifically assigned a gender but i cant be sure.


Which could just be what the Tevinters assigned to them in their own mythology.


Thats possible, although if they were female, wouldn't Archdemons become broodmothers and start creating little baby darkspawn-dragons?

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Dark-sider77 wrote...

Thats possible, although if they were female, wouldn't Archdemons become broodmothers and start creating little baby darkspawn-dragons?


I don't think it works that way, you could also argue that if male they should become mindless ghouls and eventually die.
The taint affects them differently, probably due to their power - somewhat similar to how Grey Wardens don't become broodmothers or ghouls but some sort of.. super ghouls or something if they linger after the calling.

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Statulos wrote...

After playing both Dragon Age games, there are some elements that are still not explained. I will not say that everything has to make sense and be explained (mistery is part of the fun), but just for the sake of clarification, I´d like to rise some questions:

-What are the eluvians exactly and how they can "infect" people with the tain? I hoped to get more details with Merrill´s quest but due to the bug on that, I never really got what happened to the mirror. Morrigan was able to open a portal to somewhere far away, but I don´t know if that´s the only capacity of the eluvians.

-The sacred ashes. Lyrium, divine intervention, the veil too torn.... I guess we´ll never know.

-Spirits and demons. Incarnation of sentiend beings´ emotions or pre-existing beings? In that line, why can´t dwarfs interact with the Fade when dreaming but they can be "transported" with magic?

-Red and blue lyrium. Corruption, different kinds, blood magic...?

-Where the Qunari originaly come from? UFO´s? Other dimensions? Is Thedas part of a planet?

-The Black City is the myth of the Axis Mundi in Thedas but since it has "physical reality", what is it? Arlathan? Maker´s dirty condo?

-Are dragons inteligent beings? Are the Old Gods just trapped dragons?

-If Flemeth is "not an abomination, a blood mage or entirely human", what is she?

-Magic is in the genes it seems but is it a trait that everyone has or something like blood types?


yeah the thing about da:a and da2 is they answered nothing, only added more questions. and the ending of da2 blatantly says "haha player you literally have no idea what's going on." who knows what flemeth is or what her role is. or for that matter the greater roles of the warden, hawke, or morrigan. 

i think the next game will take place in orlais. there's tons of evidence as to why. plus.. it's about time we get to see it right?