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ostemanden wrote...
I try to avoid homosexuals, and other sexual deviants. Simply because I have had enough of the "hey, look at me, I am homosexual" that we see today. I understand why it was needed, but I think you are doing yourself a "bears favor" today, insisting on informing people, and demanding that they take a public stance, to what is supposed to be your private life.
The thing is, visibility matters. If some of us don't stand up to be counted, then homosexuality will alwasy be a dirty little secret hidden away in a closet, always treated as "other" and "wrong". This will mean that gay people will continue to be killed, by means legal and otherwise depending on the country you're in. (There are some countries in the world where the punishment for homosexual behaviour is death, by the way.) I agree that some of us are a little too out there, but they deserve just as much respect as those of us who could pass for straight. The same could be said of other "sexual deviants" who happen to be heterosexual, and there's a lot more of them than homosexuals in the world! (By the way, despie it's somewhat inocuous meaning "outside the norm", deviant is a rather emotionally charged word.)
I've found the best way to handle things is simply this - live and let live. If they're not hurting you, why be bothered by what they do (short of harming others, of course)?
Therefore I am very exclusive as to what forums I visit, I chose to stay away from places where sexuality, religion and politics are disccused, simply because it is a waste of my own private energy. It is therefore a frustration when I do make a choise, about what I want to read about, and is then forced to read about other peoples sexuality on a forum for games. I do not mind the general discusssion, about whether or not homosexuality and bisexuality should be included in the game, I do feel that is totally relevant, and in context of this forum.
Sexuality, religion, and politics (or lack of any of the above), are three fundamental topics that inform our point of view. I am not sure if you've been successful at finding a fourm that avoids discussions of all three from time to time, but I suspect such a fourm would be extremely rare (orange as opposed to purple or blue.
)I can understand the frustration to a certain extent, but I am one of those who actually enjoys discussing those things.
What I do not understand is why, everytime homosexuality is discussed, "you" homosexuals always have to tell us your life story, aswell as your political view.
Because heterosexuals also feel this need, to clarify their point of view - because sexuality and politics inform our view point of the world (along with religion, and countless other things). It's fundamental to communication, how can you understand a person's view point if you don't know where they're coming from? You probably just don't notice it as much, because our society is heteronormative, so anything that is "heterosexual", is kind of blanked out on. It's a form of tunnel vision. You're far more likely to notice when a woman mentions her girlfriend than when a man mentions his wife.
There is also a tendency to make personal attacks against anyone who have a viewpoint that does not correlate with your own. (I am making a generalisation here, this is not aimed at you, I find you very formal and polite, and you obviously adhere to general mannars and decorum.)
Sadly, the internet is an anonymous forum where people don't always suffer the consequences of their words. There'll always be less than polite people of all stripes online. (And thank you.
)As an outsider I can see a reference to the Zionist problem, where anyone disagreeing with the political view of Zionism is labeled and Anti-Semite. Just as I was labeled with different mental disorders, advised to seek professional help, and being a homophobic.
That's just plain rude and disrespectful.
I had no intention of herding cats, what ever that means, I used World of Warcraft as an example, no pun was intended.
Trying to guide people on a public forum to be polite and avoid certain topics is just as impossible as herding cats. If you've ever experienced living in a household with a cat, you'll understand what I mean.
As for World of Warcraft discussions, you mentioned that you'd rather go to a WoW forum to talk about it, than talk about it on a forum dedicated to another game. My comment was based in my experience of the forums of other MMOs - World of Warcraft is impossible to get away from, because it's the benchmark by which other MMOs are measured. The game is so pervasive that it informes the point of view of a large number of gamers, whether they've actually played it at one point or not, which means like religion, politics, and sexuality, it's almost impossible to avoid discussing it at some point on a MMOgaming forum.
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