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[back pain]

Elite Midget wrote...

Bioware might use this as an excuse for a longer Dev Time that EA will be oblidged to give them.

I think EA/Bioware came to that conclusion some time before the game was realised, DA2 was a good game that could have been legendary had they given it the development time it deserved.  However I do not think Bioware had the staff to work on two "AAA" games at once so they were forced to cut DA2's development time short in order to have ME3 (a project which was deemed more important) finished in time.  Essentially, I think that had DA2 not been rushed out we would have gotten it well after ME3 came out.  I am confident that the lesions learned from DA2 will make DA3 a masterpiece.

[thebatmanreborn]

back pain wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Bioware might use this as an excuse for a longer Dev Time that EA will be oblidged to give them.

I think EA/Bioware came to that conclusion some time before the game was realised, DA2 was a good game that could have been legendary had they given it the development time it deserved.  However I do not think Bioware had the staff to work on two "AAA" games at once so they were forced to cut DA2's development time short in order to have ME3 (a project which was deemed more important) finished in time.  Essentially, I think that had DA2 not been rushed out we would have gotten it well after ME3 came out.  I am confident that the lesions learned from DA2 will make DA3 a masterpiece.

I agree and hope you're right

[LanceX2]

I pray it hits 2 million at least. 2 million is a solid number, yes less then DAO but it may be enough to make DA 3 and incentive to make it better!

[Dridengx]

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Vixvis wrote...

idk DA2 sold pretty fast nd got alot of great reviews,just because theres a buncha complaining PC nerds dont mean anything, as far as i know and i know this for a fact DA2 isnt the last game in the series they are gonna expand this franchise until their very last penny whether or not DA@ does good or bad.......In my Opinion this DA2 is almost better in evry aspect than DAO and is definetly the best game on the market for me right now.

I think the fact that so many of the people defending DA2 over DA:O can't even formulate a grammatically correct, properly annuciated sentence really says alot about its target audience... Really Bioware? You think they have more money to spend than us?

You're nothing but a fossil and your days are over. Your theory about errors in spelling is retarded, no one writes perfect on forums except nerds like yourself. I'd hate to see your text or twitters if you had anyone to write that is lol. Step aside Willy Mammoth lol.

Modifié par Dridengx, 27 mars 2011 - 04:13 .

[HTTP 404]

I think if they rush out a DA3, it won't make a quick buck because of the lack luster of DA2 (as in not stellar reviews to down right bad reviews, I like DA2 btw). If they are going to make it, they need to make it "not good" but "great" or not make it at all. I'm afraid the latter will happen.

Modifié par HTTP 404, 27 mars 2011 - 05:40 .

[Pyrate_d]

Maybe they'll realize that they can't rush out a quality game in 18 months. Should have been obvious to begin with, but better late than never.

[HTTP 404]

Pyrate_d wrote...

Maybe they'll realize that they can't rush out a quality game in 18 months. Should have been obvious to begin with, but better late than never.

well Im sure there are many reasons for this date.  MArch is the end of bioware fiscal year...

[planed scaped]

I'm sure there will be a DA3. What else would they do. Go back to Wizards of the Coast or Lucas Arts? lulz.

They left those companies to make Dragon Age and Mass Effect for reasons.

Modifié par planed scaped, 27 mars 2011 - 06:09 .

[jones0901]

dragon age still creates huge buzz. even with da2, its still a major title, and with a campaign that says were goin back to DAO roots, people will get excited and all that. i know i will

[marshalleck]

Elite Midget wrote...

Bioware might use this as an excuse for a longer Dev Time that EA will be oblidged to give them.

EA will just cancel the project rather than "be obliged" to do anything. They've done it before, will do it again. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 27 mars 2011 - 07:59 .

[Mox Ruuga]

There will be a DA3.

In fact, I'm of a mind that it doesn't matter whether the game would have sold well or gone bust, they would further streamline DA3 in any case.

If it had done well, they would credit the success to the streamlining and order more of it.

On the other hand, if it truly bombs, they will just say "Oh well, obviously not enough streamlining lol" and dumb it down even further.

A lose-lose situation for us old timer RPG fans.

[marshalleck]

You mean they'll turn it into ME2? Twitch based action with "lol fill in the blocks" character development?

[LanceX2]

ME 2 was great. I think DA 2 is great as well but major dumb flaws I want more Dragon age universe, period

[Cybermortis]

Do you remember the last trilogy Bioware produced, the one that also had a middle game who's development was rushed?

Just look at the difference in quality between Knights of the Old Republic; The Sith Lords and KOTOR 3 - see how good K3 was?

No?

Not surprising given that K3 was shelved - even though it is fairly clear that they had a story set up for it.

Comparing the 'streamlining' done to ME2 doesn't help. The Mass effect setting, and the basic nature of the original game allowed streamlining to work. The setting and basic nature of DA doesn't allow streamlining to work, and this should have been realised. Accessibly doesn't automatically have to mean 'cut out everything you can'.

[WardenGriff]

expanding panic wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

Bioware might use this as an excuse for a longer Dev Time that EA will be oblidged to give them.

Why do so many people make the excuse for Bioware that it is Ea's fault for a bad game. Ea does not own Bioware. Bioware is it's own company and they make their own decisions. Ea is the developer Bioware created the game. So it's Biowares fault not Ea. Ea could put a little pressure by asking when will it be done but in the end Bioware said "Yea its a good game lets send it out" 

EA Owns Bioware. Bioware is just one of their studios.

Electronic Arts just announced that they have "acquired" both BioWare and Pandemic Studios. EA cut a deal with Elevation Partners to buy up VG Holding Corp, which owns both companies.

Regardless of semantics, both EA and Bioware "own" responsibility for DA2. 


I just consider that the Bioware team is now ficused on ME3 and TOR (which will be an ambitious project). In the current economic climate resources are mamnaged much more tightly than was the norm in game development. 

DA3 may or may not ever see the light of day. Time will tell.

[Dragoonlordz]

planed scaped wrote...

I'm sure there will be a DA3. What else would they do. Go back to Wizards of the Coast or Lucas Arts? lulz.

They left those companies to make Dragon Age and Mass Effect for reasons.

They are still working with Lucas Arts in making their biggest by far project which financially makes DA2, DA3 and ME3 tiny in comparison. The SWKotor MMO.

[wicked_being]

There should be a DA3. They owe it to their loyal fans really.

[Legbiter]

DA:O is the best selling title in the history of Bioware. Even if DA 2 sells slightly fewer copies it will still have made Bioware a mint, especially after the upcoming DLC for it have been taken into account

It's like if a major music celebrity sells 15 million albums on his first release and is branded a colossal failure because his next one only sells 8 million. The only game Bioware has released that has bombed financially is Jade Empire anyway.

Modifié par Legbiter, 27 mars 2011 - 03:33 .

[Persephone]

There are no official numbers out yet. And until that happens, Sales can be anywhere from one million to 2 million by the end of the month. (Give or take) Given all the buzz EA will be careful with announcments. Time will tell. I only know that DA2 is selling very well here. My roomate's bf went to 5 stores to buy a PC copy, all sold out. The sixth one had 2 left. (All stores already ordered more copies) Will there be a DA3? Definitely!

Modifié par Persephone, 27 mars 2011 - 03:50 .

[Night Prowler76]

Dridengx wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Vixvis wrote...

idk DA2 sold pretty fast nd got alot of great reviews,just because theres a buncha complaining PC nerds dont mean anything, as far as i know and i know this for a fact DA2 isnt the last game in the series they are gonna expand this franchise until their very last penny whether or not DA@ does good or bad.......In my Opinion this DA2 is almost better in evry aspect than DAO and is definetly the best game on the market for me right now.

I think the fact that so many of the people defending DA2 over DA:O can't even formulate a grammatically correct, properly annuciated sentence really says alot about its target audience... Really Bioware? You think they have more money to spend than us?

You're nothing but a fossil and your days are over. Your theory about errors in spelling is retarded, no one writes perfect on forums except nerds like yourself. I'd hate to see your text or twitters if you had anyone to write that is lol. Step aside Willy Mammoth lol.

You realize DA2 got a lower metacritic score on the XBOX 360 than it did on the PC, so no, its not PC nerds complaining lol

[Night Prowler76]

Persephone wrote...

There are no official numbers out yet. And until that happens, Sales can be anywhere from one million to 2 million by the end of the month. (Give or take) Given all the buzz EA will be careful with announcments. Time will tell. I only know that DA2 is selling very well here. My roomate's bf went to 5 stores to buy a PC copy, all sold out. The sixth one had 2 left. (All stores already ordered more copies) Will there be a DA3? Definitely!

Tell them to come to my town, there are about 60 copies of it for 360 and PS3, and about 30 pc copies at my local Walmart:>  Doesnt seem to be selling well in my area.

[Persephone]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

There are no official numbers out yet. And until that happens, Sales can be anywhere from one million to 2 million by the end of the month. (Give or take) Given all the buzz EA will be careful with announcments. Time will tell. I only know that DA2 is selling very well here. My roomate's bf went to 5 stores to buy a PC copy, all sold out. The sixth one had 2 left. (All stores already ordered more copies) Will there be a DA3? Definitely!

Tell them to come to my town, there are about 60 copies of it for 360 and PS3, and about 30 pc copies at my local Walmart:>  Doesnt seem to be selling well in my area.

That would be a long way to go, as we live in Europe. ;)

[Night Prowler76]

Persephone wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

There are no official numbers out yet. And until that happens, Sales can be anywhere from one million to 2 million by the end of the month. (Give or take) Given all the buzz EA will be careful with announcments. Time will tell. I only know that DA2 is selling very well here. My roomate's bf went to 5 stores to buy a PC copy, all sold out. The sixth one had 2 left. (All stores already ordered more copies) Will there be a DA3? Definitely!

Tell them to come to my town, there are about 60 copies of it for 360 and PS3, and about 30 pc copies at my local Walmart:>  Doesnt seem to be selling well in my area.

That would be a long way to go, as we live in Europe. ;)

Oh come on, its only a 16 hour flight hahaha, seriously tho, most of the stores I have been in the last few weeks, like Bestbuy etc, have lots of copies of it, they still seem to keep selling COD black ops like crazy tho lol

And those Pokemon games, it took me alot of leg work to get a copy of the Black and White for my daughter!! those were really hard to find here/.

Modifié par Night Prowler76, 27 mars 2011 - 04:14 .

[Persephone]

Dridengx wrote...

Speakeasy13 wrote...

Vixvis wrote...

idk DA2 sold pretty fast nd got alot of great reviews,just because theres a buncha complaining PC nerds dont mean anything, as far as i know and i know this for a fact DA2 isnt the last game in the series they are gonna expand this franchise until their very last penny whether or not DA@ does good or bad.......In my Opinion this DA2 is almost better in evry aspect than DAO and is definetly the best game on the market for me right now.

I think the fact that so many of the people defending DA2 over DA:O can't even formulate a grammatically correct, properly annuciated sentence really says alot about its target audience... Really Bioware? You think they have more money to spend than us?

You're nothing but a fossil and your days are over. Your theory about errors in spelling is retarded, no one writes perfect on forums except nerds like yourself. I'd hate to see your text or twitters if you had anyone to write that is lol. Step aside Willy Mammoth lol.

This really isn't contributing to the discussion at all. Why do people always need to get personal to explain why they disagree? I mean....IMO we should not tear each other apart over liking/dislking a game. DA2 is not the Antichrist but it's certainly not the Messiah reborn either.

Modifié par Persephone, 27 mars 2011 - 04:17 .

[Persephone]

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

Night Prowler76 wrote...

Persephone wrote...

There are no official numbers out yet. And until that happens, Sales can be anywhere from one million to 2 million by the end of the month. (Give or take) Given all the buzz EA will be careful with announcments. Time will tell. I only know that DA2 is selling very well here. My roomate's bf went to 5 stores to buy a PC copy, all sold out. The sixth one had 2 left. (All stores already ordered more copies) Will there be a DA3? Definitely!

Tell them to come to my town, there are about 60 copies of it for 360 and PS3, and about 30 pc copies at my local Walmart:>  Doesnt seem to be selling well in my area.

That would be a long way to go, as we live in Europe. ;)

Oh come on, its only a 16 hour flight hahaha, seriously tho, most of the stores I have been in the last few weeks, like Bestbuy etc, have lots of copies of it, they still seem to keep selling COD black ops like crazy tho lol

And those Pokemon games, it took me alot of leg work to get a copy of the Black and White for my daughter!! those were really hard to find here/.

:lol::lol:

Well, I'd neither buy Pokemon nor COD games. Not my thing. But then again, my game tastes are very weird.