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[theangryllama]

 Playing a second playthrough. First time i was a mage and so naturally sided with the mages everywhere. Wanting to unlock the other achievements i decided to play a warrior who was 'pro circle' after reading that you could side with the templars at the end but be alongside cullen and spare any innocent ones.

However at all the points so far I've come across to choose a side its not 'hey this apostate needs to be taken to the circle where they and us will be safe' which my character would agree with. You seem to have a choice between 
Let them run free or
He looked at me funny and must be made tranquil / a blood mage passed him on the street so i must kill him

Couldn't bring myself to do it. There is no option to support a circle but one that isn't bat**** crazy and wants to kill all mages that sneeze to loud... grrrr

[Lithuasil]

There aren't exactly many mages around, that don't cut themselves as soon as they get their hands on any sharp object, either :|

[Bunion]

I chose the mages the first time playing through and after what happens you have to consider maybe the templars were right all along. Virtually all the mages end up resorting to blood magic in the end. Even though Meridith was crazy, maybe she had the right idea.

[Nyaore]

Lithuasil wrote...

There aren't exactly many mages around, that don't cut themselves as soon as they get their hands on any sharp object, either :|

Indeed. Hell, I can count on one hand how many sane, level headed, characters there were on either side of the equation.

[PlumPaul93]

Lithuasil wrote...

There aren't exactly many mages around, that don't cut themselves as soon as they get their hands on any sharp object, either :|

[TJPags]

Bunion wrote...

I chose the mages the first time playing through and after what happens you have to consider maybe the templars were right all along. Virtually all the mages end up resorting to blood magic in the end. Even though Meridith was crazy, maybe she had the right idea.

QFT.

[Dasha Dreyson]

There was that snarky female recruit (of the recruits you talk to when looking for Kerran). She seemed sane. I don't remember her name though. I blame it a lot of the crazy on the apostitute!

Modifié par Dasha Dreyson, 27 mars 2011 - 01:34 .

[theangryllama]

I realise they all do at the end, with the whole mother thing and the kaboom I plan on turning on them at the end. But at the point i'm at know on this playthrough i've had.

Starkhaven mages: One is a blood mage, i beat his ass into the ground. Convince the others that I will turn them into the circle and they must surrender. Walk out to thrask say they've surrendered peacefully and will be taken back to the circle. Other templar comes along and says 'nope, they spoke to a blood mage and thus must all be killed immediately and brutally despite not actually doing anything themselves'.

Ser Alrik: I don't want to be letting mages free... but I don't really want to be leaving them to a psychotic molesting bastard either....

[greyman33]

It really isn't just the Templars, seems like at least 90% of the population of Kirkwall is bat**** insane.

The mages almost all turn out to be nuts, the templar leadership is full of fanatic nutjobs, and the general populous also seems to spend a lot of time doing shockingly irrational things (like rappelling down from helicopters, or wherever there mobs appear from, to attack the city Champion and his bad-guy-gore covered pals).

Kirkwall may be the City of Chains, but none of those chains apparently were ever used to hold the doors to the asylum shut.

[The Angry One]

theangryllama wrote...

Starkhaven mages: One is a blood mage, i beat his ass into the ground. Convince the others that I will turn them into the circle and they must surrender. Walk out to thrask say they've surrendered peacefully and will be taken back to the circle. Other templar comes along and says 'nope, they spoke to a blood mage and thus must all be killed immediately and brutally despite not actually doing anything themselves'.

And yet Grace, the surviving leader, is left alive and standing around the Gallows exterior.
"Two mages were picked at random and executed" Thrask will say. And yet the leader who is continuing to agitate other mages is left alone. What?

[TJPags]

The Angry One wrote...

theangryllama wrote...

Starkhaven mages: One is a blood mage, i beat his ass into the ground. Convince the others that I will turn them into the circle and they must surrender. Walk out to thrask say they've surrendered peacefully and will be taken back to the circle. Other templar comes along and says 'nope, they spoke to a blood mage and thus must all be killed immediately and brutally despite not actually doing anything themselves'.

And yet Grace, the surviving leader, is left alive and standing around the Gallows exterior.
"Two mages were picked at random and executed" Thrask will say. And yet the leader who is continuing to agitate other mages is left alone. What?

Grace has plot armor - she is needed for Act 3.

[The Angry One]

TJPags wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

theangryllama wrote...

Starkhaven mages: One is a blood mage, i beat his ass into the ground. Convince the others that I will turn them into the circle and they must surrender. Walk out to thrask say they've surrendered peacefully and will be taken back to the circle. Other templar comes along and says 'nope, they spoke to a blood mage and thus must all be killed immediately and brutally despite not actually doing anything themselves'.

And yet Grace, the surviving leader, is left alive and standing around the Gallows exterior.
"Two mages were picked at random and executed" Thrask will say. And yet the leader who is continuing to agitate other mages is left alone. What?

Grace has plot armor - she is needed for Act 3.

Yes but they could at least said they threw her in a dungeon or something for act 1/2.
I mean honestly she's all "HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED" while standing in the courtyard free to whine at me every time I pass by.

[GodBID]

The templars, yes quite possibly insane and lyrium addicts all of em, i mean cullen in DAO was bat **** crazy if you let him go nuts on the circle.

Yet they let Mage Hawke run around cast spells in broad daylight without any interference.. yaaa -.-

[Vicious]

The game makes a hell of a lot more sense if you side with the Templars.

The Circle had a lot of good Mages in there that meant no harm... but quite a few bad ones. Even more than the Circle in Ferelden did!

It was another Uldred situation waiting to happen, judging by the amount of Mages who summon demons by the end.

[TJPags]

The Angry One wrote...

TJPags wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

theangryllama wrote...

Starkhaven mages: One is a blood mage, i beat his ass into the ground. Convince the others that I will turn them into the circle and they must surrender. Walk out to thrask say they've surrendered peacefully and will be taken back to the circle. Other templar comes along and says 'nope, they spoke to a blood mage and thus must all be killed immediately and brutally despite not actually doing anything themselves'.

And yet Grace, the surviving leader, is left alive and standing around the Gallows exterior.
"Two mages were picked at random and executed" Thrask will say. And yet the leader who is continuing to agitate other mages is left alone. What?

Grace has plot armor - she is needed for Act 3.

Yes but they could at least said they threw her in a dungeon or something for act 1/2.
I mean honestly she's all "HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED" while standing in the courtyard free to whine at me every time I pass by.

Yes, she is.  Even though mages are supposed to be in some kind of lockdown, in their rooms or whatever.  yet as you say, here's a known blood mage just sitting - well, standing - in the courtyard whining about how bad it is that she was caught.

Just one more thing that makes me wonder if Templars were acting as badly as the rumors suggest.

[Deztyn]

Well of course they were acting that badly!

Don't you remember how Meredith was putting all the recruits through super secret torture initiation? How could you even suggest that a leader who would put her own people through that kind of thing would treat mages with any kind of decency? Never mind how the entire order supported the Tranquil Solution. The Templars are pure evil. Meredith was never anything but insane. And any time you thought you saw a templar acting like a reasonable human being he was just under the control of a blood mage. The rumour mill is never wrong.

Modifié par Deztyn, 27 mars 2011 - 03:07 .

[Deztyn]

Edit fail.

Modifié par Deztyn, 27 mars 2011 - 03:06 .

[TJPags]

Deztyn wrote...

Well of course they were acting that badly!

Don't you remember how Meredith was putting all the recruits through super secret torture initiation? How could you even suggest that a leader who would put her own people through that kind of thing would treat mages with any kind of decency? Never mind how the entire order supported the Tranquil Solution. The Templars are pure evil. Meredith was never anything but insane. And any time you thought you saw a templar acting like a reasonable human being he was just under the control of a blood mage. The rumour mill is never wrong.

You forgot your "/sarcasm" flag.

Well, I hope you did, anyway. 

[The Angry One]

Funny thing isn't it, many of the rumors about Templars turn out to be false or gross exagerrations.
Meanwhile everything bad you hear about mages turns out to be true, demon summoners, abominations, TWO serial killers, and so on.

[3SG Sage]

I think I'm with the person that wrote almost everyone in Kirkwall is insane. The plots attempt to make sure that neither side , mages or templars, was actually in the right meant that each side had to be full of despicable idiots to not temper your choice of who to back, Consequently any sane person would have chosen to not back either side and run away. (Taking the time to break into the gallows and rescue his/her sibling if they had happened to be forced into the circle at the start of Act II). Sadly, this was not an option.