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[Thornquist]

Well, some things worked better in the first game:
1.Squad interactions - Everybody miss these, even tough they where pretty minimal to start with, but they should return in grander scale in ME3.
2. Better story - Well, the main story was better in ME1, with alot of twists along the way. However, sidequests where superior in ME2.
3. More realistic atmosphere - When you are in space, you need suits, not belts wrapped around your private parts (Jack, im looking at you)
4. A true nemesis - I miss Saren. Interractions between gigantic flying squids can only go so far.
5. Feeling you actually are in space - The Mako and the desert wastelands of different planets gave this great atmosphere! They should return.

Besides these factors, I would say ME2 thrumps ME1 in almost every way.

[Evil Johnny 666]

ADelusiveMan wrote...

Honestly...ME2 was a great game...but for ME3 all I want is more character interaction and larger non-mission environments, such as the Citadel presidium and the various wards. Mix those two with what they had in Mass Effect 2 and then it would be great.

Definitely something I found problematic. ME2's problems don't stop there, but ME2 felt too much like you either go through linear corridors for some overlong repetitive shooting or take part in conversations. For Mass Effect to be truly excellent, you need more than that. ME1 wasn't quite there, but despite all it's flaws it wasn't too far off.

I'll also add that I'd really, really wish to see some planet exploration again. Yes, it wasn't perfect. But there's always room for improvement, something which Bioware disregarded entirely with one of their most unique feature. What I loved about ME1, is that you felt like exploring a galaxy, you felt the mystery and weirdness of space. Hub worls in ME2 while more detailed, are definitely streamlined and feel like teasers. Missions taking entirely place in a real mission-like designed space, rather than an RPG space, takes out a lot of interaction and exploration (as small as it was). Most of the interaction with anything in ME2 was stripped down to conversations and shooting, which is a shame considering the expansive universe Bioware created. Again, planet exploration could've been improved, but even in its flawed form it provided me a sense of wonder and mystery. Driving on the moon with its plateau-like section and ''valleys'' (for the lack of the good expression) with the rising Earth was truly something. As some of the hot planets with a great sky (with the sun and all) and overall fitting geography. Some were nice wastelands (with some a bit similar and more randomized geography unfortunately), but you also had some pretty cool garden planets (again some with better geography than others) which made for great views and distinct particularities. Add in moons or a particular sun in the night sky, maybe Saturn-like rings, and things like that, and often it makes for an eerie and mysterious atmosphere, some sense of wonder. Sure it may feel like I'm sticking with small things, but I always thought ME1 was one of these games where all the little things counted and almost outweighted the problems (I loved the elevators and deppresurization (or whatever it was called thing). Mass Effect throws you in a universe which is on a galactic scale, so it's awesome to be able to do things exclusive to these types of universe. I'm quite interested in cosmology, like to look at the nightsky and even the mood in the morning, be able to experience these things on other planets with different situations and particularities can be a quite exciting addition. Sure it could've been improved, but why didn't they? That is probably THE thing I wan't returned. We don't need as many planets (it would feel repetitive in a way as it was already in ME1), just more detailed and unique ones.

Oh and please, do bring back the old-school sci-fi feel and let Micheal Bay do his own thing.

Thornquist wrote...

Well, some things worked better in the first game:
1.Squad interactions - Everybody miss these, even tough they where pretty minimal to start with, but they should return in grander scale in ME3.
2. Better story - Well, the main story was better in ME1, with alot of twists along the way. However, sidequests where superior in ME2.
3. More realistic atmosphere - When you are in space, you need suits, not belts wrapped around your private parts (Jack, im looking at you)
4. A true nemesis - I miss Saren. Interractions between gigantic flying squids can only go so far.
5. Feeling you actually are in space - The Mako and the desert wastelands of different planets gave this great atmosphere! They should return.

Besides these factors, I would say ME2 thrumps ME1 in almost every way.

Agreed. 

Modifié par Evil Johnny 666, 11 mai 2011 - 03:06 .

[Harmless Crunch]

@Thornquist
Yeah I miss the atmosphere too. I think thats what gave ME1 character. It wasnt its inventory or the Mako. It was the amazing atmoshphere imo..........

@Evil Johnny 666
Hmm I get the feeling veichle exploration wont return in ME3. Not that I dont want it to, its just that it would make little sense. What with the Reapers reaping all galactic life...I think Shepard wont have much time to go exploring.
I guess I'll hope it returns in a Mass effect spin-off!

[Harmless Crunch]

I still haven't got my ME1 limited edition copy yet but I've been watching some old trailers for ME1 and I've got to admit I really miss the sense of scale.
Just watch the "story" trailer and it really hits you how much bigger ME1's plot was.....(I would link it but I'm using my iPad which makes it near impossible)

[Harmless Crunch]

As I said in my previous post the "story" trailer is simply epic, really check it out!

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Harmless Crunch wrote...

I still haven't got my ME1 limited edition copy yet but I've been watching some old trailers for ME1 and I've got to admit I really miss the sense of scale.
Just watch the "story" trailer and it really hits you how much bigger ME1's plot was.....(I would link it but I'm using my iPad which makes it near impossible)

Ugh, that opening shot of Shepard looking down at the Earth through that tiny window just reminds me of how well ME1 represented the scale of the universe. Just... ugh.

[Harmless Crunch]

Yeah or the final battle at the Citadel or ....well just about all of it really.......

[Da Mecca]

Yeah man, you really felt like you were apart of a space faring crew traveling the universe.

It's just...a damn shame that all of that was lost in ME2.

Sophomore curse, but that's okay because look like it's all coming back in ME3.

[Harmless Crunch]

Yeah I think Casey said that they wanted less crew members in ME3 so you would have a better emotinal attachment to them.
And talking of ME1's epicness.......












Man I'm starting to run out of pics!

[Harmless Crunch]

makalathbonagin wrote...

i miss starring at garrus crotch in the elevators
i'm very ...curious girl ...

nah i'm joking ... but really , there was one time ...

Haha more then once I ended up checking out Ashley........

[nickkcin11]

Thornquist wrote...

Well, some things worked better in the first game:
1.Squad interactions - Everybody miss these, even tough they where pretty minimal to start with, but they should return in grander scale in ME3.
2. Better story - Well, the main story was better in ME1, with alot of twists along the way. However, sidequests where superior in ME2.
3. More realistic atmosphere - When you are in space, you need suits, not belts wrapped around your private parts (Jack, im looking at you)
4. A true nemesis - I miss Saren. Interractions between gigantic flying squids can only go so far.
5. Feeling you actually are in space - The Mako and the desert wastelands of different planets gave this great atmosphere! They should return.

Besides these factors, I would say ME2 thrumps ME1 in almost every way.

This is a list that isn't impossible to fulfill. I miss all these aspects. Hopefully TIM becomes the main villain and a sort of Saren type character. Well without the combat capabilities. I dislike fighting robots which don't have any emotional impact. They are things no one can feel sorry for. A good villain is someone you can feel sorry for or someone that you can just loathe. A great villain is both. Hopefully BW hits the target on this.


^^^^^^^^^EPIC PICTURES. Nostalgia meter just went up a lot (even though I played through it recently ) If you run out of pictures, you can show the moon (I always thought that was cool... just me?) or that one planet with meteors raining down. Don't know what it's called but it was awesome.

Good ol' Ash. Making those backtracks so much better.

Modifié par nickkcin11, 13 mai 2011 - 02:13 .

[Da Mecca]

I can't wait to get home and replay this.

Trying to figure out whether I want Kaidan to live or Ashley....

This is hard....

[Harmless Crunch]

nickkcin11 wrote...
^^^^^^^^^EPIC PICTURES. Nostalgia meter just went up a lot (even though I played through it recently ) If you run out of pictures, you can show the moon (I always thought that was cool... just me?) or that one planet with meteors raining down. Don't know what it's called but it was awesome.

Good ol' Ash. Making those backtracks so much better.

I would have more pics but I dont have a PC and I'm just finding this stuff on google.
And thats another weird thing with ME1 whenever I play it, it still seems like its my first time playing and everything is golden. Whislt I was getting nostalgic about COD:4 the other day and I played that and it was still the same meh online.
Oh and I'm super exited that Ash is back in ME3! *Fanboy squee*

Modifié par Harmless Crunch, 13 mai 2011 - 02:23 .

[Harmless Crunch]

@Da Mecca
Ehh Ash all the way!

[nickkcin11]

Da Mecca wrote...

I can't wait to get home and replay this.

Trying to figure out whether I want Kaidan to live or Ashley....

This is hard....

Well judging from my avatar, I think you know who I  want to live. ME1 and Halo 3 are the only games I can come back to and feel the same love for. Sure ME1 has those annoying times where there is no texturing on anything and Halo 3 has the laggiest Matchmaking of all time but they are gaming gems. So here's to you ME1 and H3 for giving me fond memories I will carry with me for a long time.

[Harmless Crunch]

@nickkin11
Yup same here, I'm a big Halo fan and ME1 and Halo 3 sealed my Xbox love.....oh and GTA 4 as well.....best game ever imo....

[nickkcin11]

Fallout 3 would have to be on my list too even if I've only played through it entirely once. It was the reason I got an Xbox, Halo was my first game, and ME1 is what made gaming my favorite hobby.

[Harmless Crunch]

Yeah I got my Xbox becuase I wanted to play ME2 (My computer wouldnt be able to play it).
That was over 2 years ago and damn its been a good investiment!

[Harmless Crunch]

@luk4s3d
Nice list and man I hope the electro-synth soundtrack comes back. I much prefer it to ME2's style of music.
Oh and its called a signature and you can change it by clicking on your profile and then choose "Forum settings". From there type whatever you want and then choose save changes.

[TheConfidenceMan]

sigh

[shep82]

As much as I love ME 1 the game pales in comparrison to ME 2. The only thing I want back from it is damn cant think of anything. I like ME 1 but they improved everything in the second. Ok I did think of something, slightly bigger open world environments.

Modifié par shep82, 14 mai 2011 - 12:18 .

[Gust4v]

I miss the party banter.