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[sparkyclarky24]

 if riordan told us that to kill the archdemon you must sacrifice your life earlier, we could have got loghain to give it the final blow.

[David Gaider]

 Yes... also known as "the plot".

God forbid that things happen in a plot, and we go around "forcing" the plot to, like, happen and stuff.

[David Gaider]

The Angry One wrote...
Well when you craft a plot with so many choices, people tend to get miffed when an option they think should be there.. well.. isn't.
Especially when it means consorting with an evil witch!! 

Mmm. Terrible, yes.

"Because I wanna" is a truly moving reason, I'm sure.

[David Gaider]

Two things, then, since some people seem bewildered about it:



1) Riordan didn't interact with you for very long. It's possible he simply didn't realize that you were recruits -- or that if he did, that there was no way he could have thought that a showdown with the Archdemon would come down to just the three of you before the Orlesian Grey Wardens could be contacted and brought into Ferelden. The Grey Wardens play their cards pretty close to their chest in just about all instances (clearly) and don't really talk about the Archdemon Solution until it becomes a remote possibility that *someone* might have to take that blow. Normally you're talking about more than a handful of Wardens being present in a nation, so under normal circumstances a senior Warden is pretty confident that he (if anyone) is going to be there when that blow is struck.



And, yes, if circumstances had been different, clearly things would have played out differently. Duh. That's the plot. Probably Morrigan would have appreciated not being forced into making such a blatant offer -- but she saw her chance and had to take it. Probably Riordan shouldn't have taken such a risk by leaping upon the Archdemon, but what are you going to do when there's only three Grey Wardens in the city and the dragon has to come down NOW? This is simply the way it went.



2) When someone becomes an abomination, you know. The senior Templars didn't spell it out for Cullen because they said he would know. Him being angsty over the possibility that he wouldn't, in fact, know is just him never having seen one before. I'm sure if you talked to Cullen now you'd hear: 'Yes, I do in fact know what an abomination looks like. No, I don't think that one of those could sneak by me." Maybe they should have drawn him a picture? Maybe they just expected him to have faith.



I'll leave it at that.

[David Gaider]

Walina wrote...
So, writers cornered us but did they ever though that they will hurt all the female players out there ? (And some male players too) Was is really necessary to turn things like that ?

Yes.

Why can't we just purify the archedemon with the urn

Because the urn doesn't do that? I'm sure the archdemon would thank you for healing it, however.

or even save the lives of our grey wardens with the urn ?

Which ones? The ones who are already dead? Were you thinking you would carry around the ashes in a baggie, dispense at will? You could only take a pinch, after all.

Or ask Morrigan about the ritual ? Cause I really do not beleive she has to be to one to be pregnant.

If you think Morrigan is going to let someone *else* have that child, you're quite mistaken.

You wanted a "Grey" phantasy but you've to admit during all of our journey we always helped a side which was always "right" one. So I will never admit in all my life that you were right to do that! To cheat on females players like that, just to make us ****** of (or to prepare the background of DAO 2) and I am not talking about the male players out there who romanced someone else than Morrigan...

If this game were a romance, and the point of the story was all about your romance, I *might* see how you have a point. It's not. While I'm sorry you didn't get the end to your romance that you'd hoped for, and that it was important to you, to equate that with "all female players being cheated" is kind of missing the point entirely. Again, I'm sorry you didn't get what you want, but we never promised you fluffy kittens.

You can't ask a soldier returning from Irak : if you wanna live you've to cheat on your wife!

Sorry, but that analogy just broke my brain. Congratulations.

Modifié par David Gaider, 18 novembre 2009 - 02:37 .

[Mary Kirby]

chiliztri wrote...


There is a difference between being saddened and claiming that the writers wrote that bit of plot twist with the intention of pissing off female players, just because they weren't handed a "happily ever after no one suffers!" ending.

It's cool.  We feed exclusively on the sweet, sweet tears of anguished players.  It's how we stay trim.  Happiness is fattening.

[David Gaider]

Eshaye wrote...
LOL! Yeah my character was fine with letting her lover bed Morrigan to save both their lives, but as the scene started I was like: What they are going to have me watch??!! And did I see a slight grin on Alistair's face? Hmph!

ha ha  

Yeah, we thought about that. It just didn't seem to cut it to have a fade to black followed by Alistair/Loghain coming back and going "All done! Gee, that was awkward!" I must admit that the thought of our intensely -- like, really *really* intensely -- emotionally invested players treating the scene like it was Horror Incarnate, but there you go.