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[Medet]

My mage does 60% of the party's damage on her own.

As mentioned earlier, warriors don't suck, they just can't compete with mages.

[Kastlefeer]

One thing I noticed with dragons, more valuable than any other tactic was, ...

*use cone of cold on the dragon when it chomps down on your tank, it immediately releases them and then you have a few seconds to recouperate and beat the beast down, otherwise you'll waste a lot of mana trying to heal through the huge damage and they'll likely die meaning big problems.

*secondly, have a ton of mana pots, and wynn or a spirit healer for things like group heal and lifeward

*warmth balms or fire resist items/buffs surely help?

*turn your phone off, lock the door, draw the blinds, ... it's a long fight

Modifié par Kastlefeer, 18 novembre 2009 - 07:30 .

[Kalten AlThor]

Sten max hit for me so far is 138 damage w/ Starfang tons of str and bard/mage buffs.

[MFCell]

I stack resists on allistair and use Indomitable on a 2h Warrior PC using Starfang. I play on nightmare with Wynne as a healer and Morrigan as a Blood mage for my backup.



I will tell you this right now and I think everyone in here will agree, anyone who doesn't isnt playing Dragon Age.



Warriors require the proper strategy and skills and gear to be good. If you have all those, they are great. If you are missing one of those things, you will die. Even a very minor change in strategy can result in a massive change in the battles outcome. Mages require less "on the fly" strategy changes, and so appear easier to some players. They are perhaps "better" if you want to use 1 or 3 skills to beat the whole game... ( ...Cone of Cold/Crit Skill...) but for those of us who like not only a challenge, but rising to the challenge and saying to these threads "HAH not only does it work, it works WELL", warriors and rogues still have a place in our game.

[Kastlefeer]

Medet wrote...

My mage does 60% of the party's damage on her own.
As mentioned earlier, warriors don't suck, they just can't compete with mages.

My warrior does 53% of the party damage atm but it's probably because I have wynn with heal talents and then CoC & Sleep. I'd be doing a lot more damage if the damned bezerk would stay on ... and if I'd remember to use my poisons! *grumble

My rogue is Lili and probably not set up that good with ranged talents, bard + ranger heh.

Allister's damage is increasing a bit he's in second place in the party! 20%

Modifié par Kastlefeer, 18 novembre 2009 - 07:39 .

[Taritu]

Yeah, my warrior was doiong over half the party's damage, and I had a pretty steady party and didn't swap characters much. Mages ARE far more powerful, but warriors and rogues are more than viable and mages aren't necessary, they just make the game easier (and if you go 3 mages, just make the game easy mode.)

[dannythefool]

Lacan2 wrote...
Against a dragon or the elite bosses, pure mage party will get wiped. At least, that's the impression I got trying to cast spells against a dragon... result: *resisted* *resisted* *resisted*

On which difficulty? On normal I almost never have them resist cone of cold. Even the 100% cold-resistant phial revenants can be frozen with it. With three mages I could keep any boss constantly frozen, and they'd probably deal more damage than a tank I have to force-field 30 seconds into the fight anyway.

The High Dragon is a joke at least on normal, since he is alone. There are much worse boss fights in this game than against a single foe that you can keep from doing anything at all 99% of the time.

[_purifico_]

warriors do suck. And so do rogues for that matter. In fact, everyone but mages suck hard. So far for the balance of power.

Modifié par _purifico_, 18 novembre 2009 - 08:42 .

[Trand]

Finished my first play through with my S/S Warrior, I had no issues at all with him, he could stand toe to toe with multiple mobs hitting him and he laughed it off. I really don't care who does what in my party and who topped the damage charts, if I want stats like that I will go back to playing an MMO.



As for the Dragon fight, it just takes time, and as some one else mentioned cone of cold is your friend. When ever the dragon goes to do one of its big moves freeze it, if CoC is down then use winter's grasp and pray to the maker!



I fought the Dragon around level twelve, took four tries but he went down.

[Grovermancer]

It's just you apparently -- warriors don't suck.

[Noone of Importance]

if you have wynn her level ups should be 2wp and 1 magic until she hits about Magic 30 ish when you can then get all 4th tier spells then just keep dumping all points into wp for more mana, also in the high dragon fight i found i could reliably petrify the big sucker



A Sword and board is designed to survive doing damage when and where they can for instance i normally ride the rogue or mage in a fight and let warriors run by tactics of which sword and board is



Self Any - engage Shield Defence (or wall later)

Self attacked by ranged attack - engage Shield Cover

Party Caster attacked - Shield bash enemy or any stunning/knockback



then this is why i love Alistair and Rate the Templar the power that jams/stuns casters by range goes into the tactics for enemey using magic attack - hit with Templar ranged smity power, as neuting enemy casters is vital while the warriors hold up melee dps

[Jacks-Up]

surrealitycheck wrote...

If you want some more dps, get some mages with weapon buffs (morrigan comes with frost weaps by default, bring along wynne with telekinetic / fiery) and give one of them haste. It will increase your damage a lot. Then if you take a 3rd member as a rogue with the bard song which increases damage, and take champion spec with a buff you should do some pretty respectable damage.

Tell me how you took 8 people for 1 fight pl.

[Alphidius]

It's all in your PC's skills, talents & gear...
Take a look at my current PC profile...
When I first build him, I wasted one point in Shield (the 1st default talent was on shield bash IIRC)...
Specced him into DW, holding a special longsword with 1 fire rune & another special dagger with 1 electric & cold rune...
Poison making helps too, with Deathroot extract doing additional nature damage & stun chance...
Plus if you have Morrigan, always activate Frost Weapons or any Mages with those elemental weapons spells...
Lastly, stock up on loads of Poutices you can ever lay your hands on. Any tough battle where you are outnumbered 3 to 1 can easily use up 20+ health poutices...

My 2 cents

[OneBadAssMother]

Personally I found rogues overpower even mages. 100-160 damage per second with backstabs (2 hits). Though AoE abilities are poor compared to a mage, no other class can outdamage my rogue. To be honest, I don't think I can play warrior again.

Modifié par OneBadAssMother, 18 novembre 2009 - 11:05 .

[Duck and Cover]

I find mages aren't that great on fights like that. Seems like every spell I throw at them is resisted. mages are really great on fights with lots of low level scum to crowd control and aoe. Although I don't even bother crowd controlling anymore. My main (warrior) has such good fire resists, I just taunt everyone around him. And inferno/fireball with Wynn, and that takes care of most. i love inferno.



the dragin fight is a ****. I just popped it down to easy since I only had a few pots left. If I had alot of pots I would have kept it at normal. Just stay at range and eventually you'll get him down. Or just come back later when you have better fire resist gear (although the best fire resist gear comes from defeating him lol)

[OneBadAssMother]

@ Duck n Cover



Get a rogue in the party for boss fights.



Rogues slice up single bosses in seconds, but only if you micro-manage them. Unfortunately the AI doesn't know how to flank.