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[UnAffectedFiddle]

The Mage one needed to be you dabbling in forbidden arts, and either through true love or manipulation have Jowan, a Templar, help you break in and destroy your phlyactery. As you escape you realise Jowan has set you up and in anger throw out your magic (or attempt to repent if you dont want to hurt people) and can either kill him, curse him or whatever. Duncan can step in as your about to be beheaded (Gregoir would eventually overcome you due to your inexperience) and conscripts you if you dotn jump at the opportunity to get away free or forcibly if you just want to die.

Vengeance, betrayal, love, sadness....not the silly "Jowans Origins" minigame you get /grumble.

My City Elf actually made making evil decisions easier in some cases because the origin story sets up the anger and hate. The Mage one left me confused, the Templars were nice, the Mages happy to be locked up...going back to the tower should have seen me either siding with the apostates, finding a middle ground or going all righteous on the mages for crossing a line and becoming pawns themselves!

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Troika0 wrote...

Can anyone whose played through the entire game as a Dalish Elf comment on how the origin ties in with later plot points.

While all the origins are pretty short, certain origins feel like they mesh better with the story and help to support it than others. For instance, both the Human Noble and City Elf origin--I feel--really help flesh out Denerim--which felt hollow without--and the Dwarven Noble builds upon the succession crisis in Orzammar (not sure what the Dwarf Commoner has to offer). As for the mage...eh. The Dalish Elf origin, however, seems to be the most disconnected from the events occurring within Ferelden at the time and thereby adding little to the story comparatively.

Am I completely off the mark? I really like the idea of playing as a Dalish, and find it provides one of the more compelling reasons to join the Grey Wardens, but I'm not sure I want to make a substantial investment in the origin if it offers so little long-term charm.

Can anyone quell my admittedly baseless apprehension?

It's not completely baseless, as I think the Dalish is "most" cut off from the rest compared to the others. You never go back to your original clan or anything like that.
But there are tie-ins. Tamlen will return and attack your camp as a ghoul in one of the most touching scenes I've seen (especially if you're a female PC). The other Brecilian Dalish respect you quite a bit, there's good party dialogue about your origin, and a lot of comments about you merely being an elf, which is probably shared by city elves though it's still cool.

At the end, though, I think it gives you one of the best "favors" from your appointed king/queen in that you can give the Dalish actual land to settle as their own. I loved that. The other ones are probably more "dramatic" because they let you go back to your specific home, but the Dalish isn't cut off, and it certainly isn't boring.

EDIT: Basically what I mean is that the Dalish clan you meet is the Dalish origin's main link to the story in that the clan treats you differently than they would a human or a dwarf. You also have a little more respect from the Alienage Elves. So it is connected to the story in a very similar way, but it's less dramatic because you don't know anybody in that clan, and can't get the kind of interaction like a Noble Dwarf facing their brother or a noble human facing Howe. Tamlen and Ashalle are the only links from the actual origin other than being Dalish.

Modifié par Mystranna Kelteel, 18 novembre 2009 - 03:39 .

[Fudzie]

I figured that, whether you helped Jowan or not, any chance to leave the tower and the stern, watchful eyes would be seized upon by almost any mage.

[Troika0]

Mystranna Kelteel wrote...

It's not completely baseless, as I think the Dalish is "most" cut off from the rest compared to the others. You never go back to your original clan or anything like that.
But there are tie-ins. Tamlen will return and attack your camp as a ghoul in one of the most touching scenes I've seen (especially if you're a female PC). The other Brecilian Dalish respect you quite a bit, there's good party dialogue about your origin, and a lot of comments about you merely being an elf, which is probably shared by city elves though it's still cool.

At the end, though, I think it gives you one of the best "favors" from your appointed king/queen in that you can give the Dalish actual land to settle as their own. I loved that. The other ones are probably more "dramatic" because they let you go back to your specific home, but the Dalish isn't cut off, and it certainly isn't boring.

EDIT: Basically what I mean is that the Dalish clan you meet is the Dalish origin's main link to the story in that the clan treats you differently than they would a human or a dwarf. You also have a little more respect from the Alienage Elves. So it is connected to the story in a very similar way, but it's less dramatic because you don't know anybody in that clan, and can't get the kind of interaction like a Noble Dwarf facing their brother or a noble human facing Howe. Tamlen and Ashalle are the only links from the actual origin other than being Dalish.

That doesn't actually sound too bad, with the goulish rendesvous--in particular being--rather intriguing. You've convinced me, I'll give it a shot.

Thank you for your speedy reply.

Modifié par Troika0, 18 novembre 2009 - 03:48 .