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[maladictor2009]

Mordaedil wrote...

Wait, so your major argument is that people should not be entitled to attach their names to their own product?

I'm sorry, that makes me see just about where you stand.

They can attach it on the box, make a big poster in the CD box. So many ways that dosnt involve annoying people. Most people see this as a necessary evil when its not.

[fluffyamoeba]

imported_beer wrote...

I don't wan't to see the avatars and comments of other forumites in this forum. I don't want that Bioware logo either.

I want to be able to see only myself since no one else contributes much to this site but me. Make it happen- because it ticks me off to see other folks, companies etc on MY site.

DisableImportedBeerPosts=1


Wait... this sucks.
*changes ini setting back*

[Chikkenstorm]

Like I said before this topic got on the 4th page:

There will be a hack that removes the intro movies. No problem.

[Deran2]

maladictor2009 wrote...



Or in the recent years how they shove DRM down the troat on people hitting the paying customers but not pirates who just removed it.

Or how they made game creators lose morale because they had to put in some extreme work hours,

You are right truly EA is the best out there I cant believe I doubted a word you said!

They stopped putting that in games after Spore. Seems to be something other publishers are moving away from as well. It was stupid in the first place, but Sony DADC had a good lying marketing pitch.

ALL developers work extremely long hours. I don't care what company they work for, long work weeks are a staple of the industry. Especially towards the end of development.

[Mordaedil]

maladictor2009 wrote...

Mordaedil wrote...

Wait, so your major argument is that people should not be entitled to attach their names to their own product?

I'm sorry, that makes me see just about where you stand.

They can attach it on the box, make a big poster in the CD box. So many ways that dosnt involve annoying people. Most people see this as a necessary evil when its not.

... In this day and age where everyone pirates games? Yeah, people have boxes. Sure.

boe2 wrote...

Any, and I do mean ANY sane person knew
right from the start that this activation limit was a REALLY bad
idea...unless ofcourse your goal is to trick people into paying twice
for their game.

If you were in the shoes of a
publisher who lost millions in capital and wanted to see if there was a
way to save a huge-ass leak, you'd try to do some pretty desperate
things as well.

I didn't agree with their choice either, but I
respect their decision as business-men and lament that it occured to a
game I wanted to be free of it, but it doesn't really affect the game
imo.

And they seem to have genuinely learned their lesson?

[Varenus Luckmann]

Deran2 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Quite the contrary. If you ask me, every major corporation becomes inherently dehumanizing and evil as it continues to grow beyond a certain point. In the effort of profit maximization they eventually come to harm both their employees and their customers, be it on more personal levels, economic or cultural.

Yet it is the fault of the humans in charge that these bad acts are happening. You can't call a company "evil" since you would be implying that every single person working for it was inheritently a bad or evil person.

Of course it's the humans fault. But no, not every person working for it is evil. Corporations beyond a certain size becomes dehumanizing by it's very nature. Despite the best intentions, the climate it creates simply isn't human. Everything that wasn't evil before, will slowly be corrupted.

Before long, it's all statistics, equations, "human capital" and profit maximization. In a way, the humans in charge are just as much victims to their own corporation as Kerrigan is to the Zerg.

[Mordaedil]

Chikkenstorm wrote...

Like I said before this topic got on the 4th page:
There will be a hack that removes the intro movies. No problem.

... There isn't a need for a hack, there's already a way to disable them! Dammit!

[sumdood]

I think it was stated before, but EA isn't simply publishing this game, they own all rights to it as they own BioWare. This is EA's game, they can do whatever they want with it.

[boe2]

And they seem to have genuinely learned their lesson?

What makes you think so? Because DA won't have DRM? I believe that is rather because they know this game is aimed at a niche market and a huge ****storm would follow.

[Mordaedil]

I will head to bed now with only this final message.

[fluffyamoeba]

Chikkenstorm wrote...

Like I said before this topic got on the 4th page:
There will be a hack that removes the intro movies. No problem.

Like Mordaedil and I both said on the second page. There is an ini setting to disable it.

Modifié par fluffyamoeba, 29 octobre 2009 - 09:27 .

[Deran2]

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Deran2 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Quite the contrary. If you ask me, every major corporation becomes inherently dehumanizing and evil as it continues to grow beyond a certain point. In the effort of profit maximization they eventually come to harm both their employees and their customers, be it on more personal levels, economic or cultural.

Yet it is the fault of the humans in charge that these bad acts are happening. You can't call a company "evil" since you would be implying that every single person working for it was inheritently a bad or evil person.

Of course it's the humans fault. But no, not every person working for it is evil. Corporations beyond a certain size becomes dehumanizing by it's very nature. Despite the best intentions, the climate it creates simply isn't human. Everything that wasn't evil before, will slowly be corrupted.

Before long, it's all statistics, equations, "human capital" and profit maximization. In a way, the humans in charge are just as much victims to their own corporation as Kerrigan is to the Zerg.

Nice Starcraft reference. There really isn't anything to say to that. I just view the world in shades of gray, I don't believe in absolutes when it comes to good or evil.

[Holy Mortar]

maladictor2009 wrote...
...

I cant see why EA needs to be plastered up in the beginning just because they supply the money.

you just answered your question.

[maladictor2009]

Yeah guys dont get carried away!

[SilentCid]

You know it was a very funny thing we are talking about this because just before the fall of video games in North America in the 80's. The developers were fighting with publishers to get noticed with some recognition in a form of logo on games they created. Atari would absolutely prevent any developer from applying logos in games that were going onto their consoles. It took a good while for them to finally get the recognition they deserved and this you see intro videos with logos of the developers in games.

Just throwing that out there...

Modifié par SilentCid, 29 octobre 2009 - 09:43 .

[Naelven]

I would change it to be released today.

[Jassper]

Freaking unbelievable,

"I hate EA because they are nothing but a Corporate fat cat!! - I'll be right back, gotta run to Wal-Mart.

Of course they want your money - they provide a product, YOU provide the cash. That's how ANY business works.

Of course if it really bothered you as much as you say, then you wouldn't buy anything sporting the EA logo -

[ITSSEXYTIME]

boe2 wrote...

Deran2 wrote...
Really? And who else out there has the money to support Bioware? Activision? Yeah, that would be a so much better choice. Microsoft? Yeah, they'd care so much about what Bioware wanted. Capcom? Not likely.

EA is, quite frankly, the best choice for Bioware. Especially if they're left relatively alone. EA is one of the more developer friendly mega publishers in the industry. Of the top publishers in the world they're also the only one actively trying to turn there image around for the better. Activision is screwing everyone over and the first-parties are worried more about eachother than us.

EA developer friendly? Most certainly not. They may have cut bioware some slack, but that is VERY exceptional.
You talk about Activision screwing everyone, but EA is even worse: They will never cease to find new ways of extracting money from players. If it's not from stuff like digital "collector" editions (MAJOR wtf, what is the point?!) it is from microtransactions in their other games (ever heard of the sims? rock band?). Let's not talk about the fact that they re-release the same batch of gametitles YEAR after YEAR, make minor changes to them and charge the full price for them. EA is the disease of today's gaming industry and their executives can go get hit by a truck for all I care. I have boycotted every EA game for MANY years now (thank god Mass Effect was released by Microsoft Studios) and this is the first time that I make an exception to that boycot. Hence, whenever I see the EA logo light up on MY computer, I cringe a little.

Congrats, you quoted an article from nearly 6 years ago.  EA went under some extensive reform since then and are now one of the best publishers around, the only negative is they really like their DLC a bit too much.

[Sabriana]

Mordaedil wrote...

Chikkenstorm wrote...

Like I said before this topic got on the 4th page:
There will be a hack that removes the intro movies. No problem.

... There isn't a need for a hack, there's already a way to disable them! Dammit!

There is indeed, I have removed the intro movies from all of my games. So it's entirely possible to change that by yourself. And if it's mysteriously impossible to mod the .ini files, or movie files, I'm sure that someone will come out with a mod to do so in other ways. Until then ESC is one keystroke away from choking the intro movie off right off the bat.

I too dislike EA and their practices of pushing the limit trying to fleece their customers and employees, but Bioware is now with them, and that's unlikely to change in the foreseeable future.

[Hammyofdoom]

Its just a few seconds. The hell is the big deal?

[Deran2]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...
Congrats, you quoted an article from nearly 6 years ago.  EA went under some extensive reform since then and are now one of the best publishers around, the only negative is they really like their DLC a bit too much.

Of the top five I'd say EA is the best, outside of that eh. I like a lot of the smaller publishers more. Atlus, NIS America, Zenimax, Blizzard (ok they're not small, but they do have their own publishing studio).

[The_Odyssey]

This thread is retarded.

EA owns Bioware, they can do whatever the f--- they want with their game. Get over it.

Modifié par The_Odyssey, 30 octobre 2009 - 01:00 .

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

If the EA logo at the intro to the game annoys you, you honestly don't have enough going on in your life. This game is their product, people put logos on their products. It's there and you can skip over it I'm sure if you hate it so much. Just be happy they put forth the money to make the game and that they have faith in Bioware as a creative entity.

[Achromatis]

This thread made me /facepalm so hard I fell out of my chair.

Edit: Activision is MUCH worse than EA btw. And the EA logo theyve been using for DA is actually pretty decent and not nearly as annoying as most company logos out there.

Modifié par Achromatis, 30 octobre 2009 - 01:41 .

[IconicNorwegian]

Achromatis wrote...

This thread made me /facepalm so hard I fell out of my chair.

Edit: Activision is MUCH worse than EA btw.

lol Indeed xD
EA...OWNS....BIOWARE! 
They do whatever they want