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That one. What is it? Is it a symbol of the Imperium? Is it a symbol of Kirkwall (the Viscount seems to have his own arms)? It's plastered everywhere--it's on the walls, it's even on little sacks.

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no lie, i was just about to ask that!

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I don't know about that symbol in particular but it looks a bit like a bastardised version of the Kirkwall Symbol which represents Kirkwall's Freedom et al.

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I think the second one here ( http://thornborrow.b...2-frescoes.html ) is the symbol of the Viscount, and possibly of Kirkwall as well.

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I recall reading somwhere that the chantry tried many failed attempts to cover the Tevinter Symbols of the old gods that covered Kirkwall. Maybe the rebellious locals saw a cool symbol that the chantry feared and started using it as crude graffiti?

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

I think the second one here ( http://thornborrow.b...2-frescoes.html ) is the symbol of the Viscount, and possibly of Kirkwall as well.

I'm pretty sure the symbol is Just Kirkwall, the one you see on the loading screen going into the Viscount's Keep is the symbol of the Viscount

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Has anyone else noticed that the symbol of Kirkwall, while looking like a dragon, also looks like Kirkwall itself? You've got the two long lines at the bottom representing the cliffs leading up to the Gallows, then the body/wings section represents the city of Kirkwall, and then the diamond at the top (or "head" of the dragon) represents the Viscount's keep atop Hightown.

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One of the Band of Three articles call them maps, I think.

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Randy1083 wrote...

Has anyone else noticed that the symbol of Kirkwall, while looking like a dragon, also looks like Kirkwall itself? You've got the two long lines at the bottom representing the cliffs leading up to the Gallows, then the body/wings section represents the city of Kirkwall, and then the diamond at the top (or "head" of the dragon) represents the Viscount's keep atop Hightown.

Huh. Eerie

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LK Tien wrote...

One of the Band of Three articles call them maps, I think.


That's interesting, and extremely possible.

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 I assumed it was an old Tevinter symbol used by the Magisters when they controlled the city.

When I see this quote from a piece of  "The Enigma of Kirkwall",

The mason showed me a plan of the city, and my heart skipped a beat. There were patterns in the intersections, back alleys, and boulevards. Some magisters believed in the power of symbols or shapes. In the oldest parts of the city , one can make out the outlines of glyphs in the very streets! What manner of magic is this?


It also makes me think of that, especially when you get the load screen of that symbol with blood running through the design like so many fantasy games and movies that have blood filling a symbol as part of a ritual.

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Yeah, DA:O's codex does say that the dragon symbol was "everywhere associated with Imperial power."

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I thought it had something to do with Flemeth the first time I saw it..

..which goes hand in hand with my idea that Flemeth is the ONLY surviving Tevinter mage to return from that fated trip through the veil...

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I assumed it was just some doodle that Varric did in the book the story of the champion was wrote in, to represent the blight, and the rise of an archdemon.

But yeah, The Tevinter worshiped the old gods/dragons, so it makes sense that an old Imperium city, might have this symbol engraved into its effigies.

That being said, it appears as a red painted sign inside the Hanged Man as well, beside the bar.
Clearly its a symbol that is still used and painted around the city.

The symbol is probably just synonomous with 'Kirkwall' and used to represent it.

Anyone planned on getting any of the DA / DA2 symbols as Tattoo's?

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I saw someone say somewhere that it's the sign of "The Illuminati". Which is basically a conspiracy theory about a group of elistists who control the world, the economy, etc, etc. Or if you're a Marvel Comics fan, a secret group consisting of Tony Stark, Reed Richards, Dr. Strange, Charles Xavier, and Namor. ; )

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Icinix wrote...

I thought it had something to do with Flemeth the first time I saw it..

..which goes hand in hand with my idea that Flemeth is the ONLY surviving Tevinter mage to return from that fated trip through the veil...


Maybe...
But that does make the assumption that everything in the lore and codex of Dragon Age, is true.
Many things are left open to interpretation.

It is the Chantry that says that the Tevinter are responsible for the First Blight and the abandonment of the Maker.
From my experiences in other games which involve religions and ideology, if there are 2 sides to a story, the correct version, is often the third unknown story.

eg - Final Fantasy X -  Yevonites say that Zanarkand-ites, and their technology bought about the destruction of the world. In reality, Yevonites were originally Bevelle citizens who used Technology to destroy Zanarkand, and then hid the truth through gospel.

eg - Summoner 1 and 2 -  The Sudoni people teach that Lahara(Goddess of the Odoni (people of fire)) slew Urath(God of the Sudoni (people of the sky)), and shattered him into 9 pieces, 1 summoner, 4 dragons, 4 demons. The truth however, is that there are no Gods, and that there is only Creation and Destruction, and the Destructive Force of the 'Tempest' destroyed the Tree of Eleh (the force of Creation) which then caused the Absense of Divine Creation from the world and unleashed horrors on the world.

When it gets down to faiths, and religions in games, there is always 2 sides, and then the truth.

How this relates to Dragon Age?
I can see in the future, we will probably be gob smacked by some big shocker, that reveals what 'Really' happened to cause the first blight, the truth about Old Gods and the Maker, and all sorts of things.
A good Writer always adds in a plot twist as well, so dont be expecting the ending to be easilly guesable.
It will likely be something that we never saw coming.
Flemeth will probably be Andraste's Sister or something. Lol

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Baaleos wrote...
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Flemeth will probably be Andraste's Sister or something. Lol


..cousins sisters uncles former roommate?:blink:

Totally DID NOT see that one coming. Floored me the first time I heard it!

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Im just using it as an example, there is nothing wrong with your own idea what so ever, but we all know, dont we, that Bioware will try their best to make the truth about Flemeth and the whole backstory for Dragon Age 2, something we never saw coming.

Flemeth is probably someone or something important, that we wont even think about, until the end.

Who says the maker has to be male?

"A mother would never leave her children." - quote from 'Supernatural season 6 'Eve'"

Flemeth does seem to be more interested in helping mankind help themselves, rather than helping directly, or impeding directly.

I think shes more a positive force in the series, and she wants mankind to prove that they can stand on their own two feet.
Which is why she seems to show great respect for Hawke, and the Warden. Being able to slay an Ogre, and an ArchDemon etc.

She does seem to be very much like a Mother Figure in my opinion, to the world....
The fact that shes at least able to change into a Dragon, sort of implies that she may have the spirit of an Old God within her.

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Baaleos wrote...

Im just using it as an example, there is nothing wrong with your own idea what so ever, but we all know, dont we, that Bioware will try their best to make the truth about Flemeth and the whole backstory for Dragon Age 2, something we never saw coming.

Flemeth is probably someone or something important, that we wont even think about, until the end.

Who says the maker has to be male?

"A mother would never leave her children." - quote from 'Supernatural season 6 'Eve'"

Flemeth does seem to be more interested in helping mankind help themselves, rather than helping directly, or impeding directly.

I think shes more a positive force in the series, and she wants mankind to prove that they can stand on their own two feet.
Which is why she seems to show great respect for Hawke, and the Warden. Being able to slay an Ogre, and an ArchDemon etc.

She does seem to be very much like a Mother Figure in my opinion, to the world....
The fact that shes at least able to change into a Dragon, sort of implies that she may have the spirit of an Old God within her.


Oh...sorry. I agreed with you. It's a quote form Spaceballs that I thought applied.

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Ah, sorry.
Never watched that movie.

hehe