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[MonkeyLungs]

It could be as simple as just allowing for a preview of what your companion would look like in the armor. If you like the look, then pay to have the armor you looted fitted to the companion.

This way Bioware gets to choose how each companion looks in all different kinds of armor, and players to get to equip their party with armor they loot during the course of playing the game.

It appears to address concerns on both sides. Bio wants unique looks, players want to outfit their companions and be able to find use for the gear they loot even if their own character might not be able to use it.

[Kusy]

Well MonkeyLungs... that is a neat and awesome idea but... it woudl require actualy making more outfits for the game. And that obviously was the problem.

[Ziggy]

Morrigan had a special robe you could find for her. Maybe if they had something like that for all the companions while still letting you chose if they wear it or not.

[MonkeyLungs]

Mr.Kusy wrote...

Well MonkeyLungs... that is a neat and awesome idea but... it woudl require actualy making more outfits for the game. And that obviously was the problem.

I know lol.

Your avatar is way more awesome than BUTTON---->AWESOME.

[neppakyo]

lol, yeah that is an awesome avatar. Clint Eastard? Or Clint Shepard? Clint Shepwood?

[pwnjuicesucka]

A million times this. With all the complaints people spit about DA2 the lack of customization is almost over-shadowed by all the other ****ing. This was a HuGE let down for me. By god if I wanna play barbie fun time dress up with my companions I should be able too! I REALLY miss this.

[didymos1120]

KingRemington wrote...

 I don't remember there being any armor restrictions in the previous installment of dr, so why start now?

There were item restrictions. They were just rarely used, and even more rarely on armor/robes.  Usually they appeared on the accessories.  Most noticeable were Shale and Dog's gear. 

[neppakyo]

pwnjuicesucka wrote...

A million times this. With all the complaints people spit about DA2 the lack of customization is almost over-shadowed by all the other ****ing. This was a HuGE let down for me. By god if I wanna play barbie fun time dress up with my companions I should be able too! I REALLY miss this.

Yes! Should be able to put chainmail bikini's on varric if I want to!.

[colata]

People, you need to see what's real and what's not.

Say a strong country invaded another country with vast expensive resources and say it was for purely humanitarian purpose.

People with proper sense would not believe it because

1. politicians on the face of the earth are full of lies.
2. tens of thousands of money is required to invade a country.

We need to see through the lies.

Last I checked, every PR persons and producers responsible for publicizing their company or product has a little bit of politician-like aspect in them.

For more balanced perspective, I wrote this.

Modifié par colata, 28 mars 2011 - 11:57 .

[Irx]

Real reasons:

1. changing armor is too complex for console gamers who only wish to press 1 button and win.
2. devs are lazy.
3. they probably want to sell us rescins for additional $$.

[Dragoonlordz]

Irxy wrote...

Real reasons:

1. changing armor is too complex for console gamers who only wish to press 1 button and win.
2. devs are lazy.
3. they probably want to sell us rescins for additional $$.

I play PC and console titles, I am potentially much more intelligent than you, yet you belittle me over playing games on consoles? This whole console players are brain dead button mashers is a fallacy. I want customisation back, the majority of people on these forums who want it gone tend to fall into mostly imports from other series such as ME trying to influence DA to become an ME clone set in a different universe. People who like a different genre to what (DA was originally intended to please - D&D/BG/NWN RPG crowd) aka the GoW and Darksiders genre crowd is Biowares new target audience.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 28 mars 2011 - 04:50 .

[ZombiePowered]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

Irxy wrote...

Real reasons:

1. changing armor is too complex for console gamers who only wish to press 1 button and win.
2. devs are lazy.
3. they probably want to sell us rescins for additional $$.

I play PC and console titles, I am potentially much more intelligent than you, yet you belittle me over playing games on consoles? This whole console players are brain dead button mashers is a fallacy. I want customisation back, the majority of people on these forums who want it gone tend to fall into mostly imports from other series such as ME trying to influence DA to become an ME clone set in a different universe and people who like a different genre to what (DA was originally intended to please - D&D/BG/NWN RPG crowd) aka the GoW and Darksiders genre crowd is Biowares new target audience.

I played DA:O, loved it, and loved DA2. I especially liked the companion armor. They should dress how they want to dress. There is something called consistent personalities. Companions are characters, they should have them. If someone told me to wear crocs because they give +1 to my agility in water, I'd burn the crocs and then politely(-ish) ask that person to leave. I'd imagine telling Isabela what to wear would meet a similar result.

I do think that there should be a bit of customization within this new direction, though. You should be able to mess around with the details of their armor, and their armor should change more over time. But the companion armor is a good direction--companions have their distinct personalities and, moreover, they are grown-ups who can dress themselves in the morning.

[TJSolo]

I played DA:O, loved it, and loved DA2. I especially liked the companion armor. They should dress how they want to dress.

Please visit one of the RP threads as this thread is about possible real reasons.Those characters are not real and have no real want or need to appear how they are other than some designer(not the fictional characters) decided so.

Modifié par TJSolo, 28 mars 2011 - 04:03 .

[randName]

Cheap solution to cut down dev time with more armours ~ lack of ideas/time on how to keep characters in character in different armour.

In the end its one of many sad sorry things about DA2.

[Wonderllama4]

I always find a ton of nice armor and loot but I'm forced to sell it because my Hawke already has better armor or he can't wear it and neither can anyone else! In Origins I kept all the cool armor I found and split it between myself, Alistair, Oghren, and Sten.

Fully upgraded, the companions' clothing should be the best attire for each character stat-wise. Even so, I wish I could change their appearance. I hate selling 90% of the armor I find.

[Night Prowler76]

Mike laidlaw.

[Dragoonlordz]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Brand recognition. That's the only reason to make a character "iconic" aka "easily recognizable." Morrigan is the only character in the whole series that even comes close to achieving that goal, however.

Nah, Alistair is still the funniest character I have seen in an RPG for a very long time. He is iconic to me for DA series more so than Morrigane, even Sandal is more iconic than Morrigane (all 3 are more iconic to me than Hawke). I won't be thinking about Hawke or any of his companions when I think about DA series in future. Because it will be drowned out by the screams of "Enchantment!".

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 28 mars 2011 - 04:54 .

[Killer3000ad]

Bioware's excuse was that they wanted to give each character their own flavour rather than stick their heads on a different body with a different outfit, but the truth is the game was rushed, corners were cut and there was no time/resources/overtime to design separate body armor meshes for each party member. Which is odd cause everyone in your party is all human and two elves and there are plenty of elf and human NPCs in the game how hard would it have been to design the armor outfits for each one. They did it in DA:O, so Bioware's explanation is weak.

[Lee T]

Judge585 wrote...

I didn't mind the companion armor being unique, but I would've appreciated the companions to change their armor graphics when each or all of their armor components were upgraded. Granted, some companions changed their attire at certain plot points, but not all.

I agree, or at the very least change suits between acts.

[ZombiePowered]

TJSolo wrote...

I played DA:O, loved it, and loved DA2. I especially liked the companion armor. They should dress how they want to dress.

Please visit one of the RP threads as this thread is about possible real reasons.Those characters are not real and have no real want or need to appear how they are other than some designer(not the fictional characters) decided so.

I believe this is the Registered Game Owner forum. And I also believe my Dragon Age 2 case is sitting right next to my computer. Which means I own it, which means I get to post on these forums.

Also, if you read my post you would have noticed that I did give a real reason: consistent personalities. When characters have consistent personalities, it creates deeper immersion in the game. It makes the characters you are interacting with more consistent in their actions (as the name would hint). People choose their outfits, so game characters should be in charge of getting dressed in the morning as well. It's a small touch that sublty adds more to the way you perceive the character. For example, if Isabela wore a Victorian black dress that showed no skin except for her hands and face, you'd be a bit confused by all the flirting and sexual banter. It wouldn't make sense for someone as... free with her affections as she is to dress in such a manner. She just wouldn't do it.

[Ruben Thomas]

I really like how they did companion armor in DA2, I wish they had done it with the player character Hawke as well. It's not like there's many different armor sets for the player character either.

I do wish though that the upgrades for companion armor that you find would show on the armor itself, so that you could see what was added to it.

I think a good alternative to please people from both groups would be that you could visit a tailor, and change the style or color of you and your companions' outfits.

I always thought it was silly taking the pants off of a dwarf corpse and wearing them on my human character anyway, and having my inventory crowded with one hundred different items that barely has any difference between them.

I hope they take it even further in DA3, right now they're kind of half and half, and it's annoying.

[Dark83]

Eldrethar wrote...
But in my opinion, if Isabella is stupid enough to believe she can deflect a hurlock sword with her butt-cheeks and flimsy cotton blouse alone, then she deserves to have someone dress her!

Buns of steel > iron swords.

[sestrensaz]

I prefer the 'armour restriction'. Though I don't see it as restriction, I see it as a bonus - I like that the characters have their own unique look and not having to suffer dressing them in the generic looking tat we got in DAO (sorry DAO armour designers, it was pretty dire, especially for mages).

I left both Morrigan and Wynne in their starting robes in DAO (tho Morrigan gets an upgrade) because there was just no way I was going to put them in the stuff you get from loot and buying in stores; it actually serves to ruin their personality somewhat. I mean, Morrigan without those robes just doesn't feel like Morrigan (and I'm a woman so no it wasn't about being all lololol boobs!) It just didn't feel right... like, can you imagine Varric without showing off the chest hair?! Travesty! lol

I feel it was the right decision to switch to upgrades rather than full customisation. Though I think I would have preferred to see changes in their clothing as the years went by... or even as you complete their upgrades rather than only if you romance them.

Also some of the changes are a bit paltry... I romanced Fenris and all that changed as that he wore a red scarf around his wrist and the Hawke crest on his belt... bit meh! Also the fact it seems like the reason Fenris is wearing the scarf is never discussed in-game. Might have been nice.

But otherwise I'm all for upgrades over customisation since I think it takes away from the personality of the character to say dress Isabela in some frumpy leather get-up when we know that's not her style.

Modifié par sestrensaz, 28 mars 2011 - 08:56 .

[Ruben Thomas]

sestrensaz wrote...

I prefer the 'armour restriction'. Though I don't see it as restriction, I see it as a bonus - I like the characters have their own unique look and not having to dress them the generic looking tat you got in DAO (sorry DAO armour designers, it was pretty dire, especially for mages).

I left both Morrigan and Wynne in their starting robes (tho Morrigan gets an upgrade) because there was just no way I was going to put them in the stuff you get from loot and buying in stores; it actually serves to ruin their personality somewhat. I mean, Morrigan without those robes just doesn't feel like Morrigan (and I'm a woman so no it wasn't about being all lololol boobs!) It just didn't feel right... like, can you imagine Varric without showing off the chest hair?! Travesty! lol

I feel it was the right decision to switch to upgrades rather than full customisation. Though I think I would have preferred to see changes in their clothing as the years went by... or even as you complete their upgrades rather than only if you romance them.

Also some of the changes are a bit paltry... I romanced Fenris and all that changed as that he wore a red scarf around his wrist and the Hawke crest on his belt... bit meh! Also the fact it seems like the reason Fenris is wearing the scarf is never discussed in-game. Might have been nice.

But otherwise I'm all for upgrades over customisation since I think it takes away from the personality of the character to say dress Isabela in some frumpy leather get-up when we know that's not her style.

I agree with most of this

[Dragoonlordz]

sestrensaz wrote...

Also some of the changes are a bit paltry... I romanced Fenris and all that changed as that he wore a red scarf around his wrist and the Hawke crest on his belt... bit meh! Also the fact it seems like the reason Fenris is wearing the scarf is never discussed in-game. Might have been nice.

The scarf wasn't due to romance, it was to hide his wrist scars from being shown since he was emo all the time.