Will Decisions Really Matter Next Game
#1
Posté 27 mars 2011 - 11:53
So now one playthrough I wasted the Dalish Elves because of Merrill but the second one I didn't do that mission so they would still be alive. So in DA3 will they be auto-dead like Lelianna was auto-helper of the Warden?
It's sad that the Dalish didn't have the land that my Warden asked for them though. First they get screwed out of their property then they get killed. I just couldn't do that to them the second time around. Dalish just can't find a break in Bioware's games.
#2
Posté 27 mars 2011 - 11:58
#3
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 12:13
#4
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 12:16
If Bioware decides certain decisions are important, they will become canon. Otherwise, we'll likely get the same gratuitous things we got in DA2 - mention of the Hero of Ferelden being an elf, or king/queen, seeing some random Harrowmout running from Bhelen fanatics, hearing about decreasing pigeon populations, etc.
#5
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 12:23
#6
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 12:26
I stabbed the hell out of Zev and yet, poof, there he is in 2.
#7
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 12:30
PirateT138 wrote...
Here's hoping, but first they need to fix the save-game importing so that choices made in 3 are (even if only in small ways) still referenced correctly.
I stabbed the hell out of Zev and yet, poof, there he is in 2.
I have a feeling this will happen again. I did that to Anders in DA2 but when Varris finishing up, he mentioned Anders was the only one that didn't leave Hawke. So not looking good if even this game can't understand "He's dead, Jim"
#8
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 12:30
But likely not. The ending for DA2 is the same regardless of choice. If the next game takes place away from the Free Marches and has nothing to do with Hawke then there's really nothing from DA2 choice wise that will affect anything in 3.
In the end, this game's just kinda there. The trailer and demo told us the whole story when Varric said 3 minutes into the game "Chantry's in ruins, Circles are in revolt, and the whole world's on the brink of war."
The game's a trailer for DA3.
#9
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 01:00
#10
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 01:04
#11
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 01:14
#12
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:06
- Which side Hawke supported.
- Which if any of Hawkes siblings that survived and whether they joined the Circle/Templars or the Wardens.
- Whether you turned over Isabela ot not, whether you duelled the Arishok or not, whether the Arishok's respect was gained or not and whether Isabela returned with the book or not.
- Whether you turned Fenris over or not.
- What happened to Feynriel.
- Whether Anders was killed or not (sure others can be killed or not too, but Anders is the only one I could see becoming a major figure in the following mage/templar conflict if allowed to live).
#13
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:09
Whether you turned over Isabela ot not
If you turn Isabela in she escapes and steals the book again. No one can die except Hawkes and Anders, odd enough.
#14
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:11
#15
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:15
Merrill, though, she's the one I want to see come back. She's the only interesting character who has a future in front of her...unless they pull an Anders and give us a massive character shift. You know, so massive that it may as well be a completely different character.
#16
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:18
sheppard7 wrote...
PirateT138 wrote...
Here's hoping, but first they need to fix the save-game importing so that choices made in 3 are (even if only in small ways) still referenced correctly.
I stabbed the hell out of Zev and yet, poof, there he is in 2.
I have a feeling this will happen again. I did that to Anders in DA2 but when Varris finishing up, he mentioned Anders was the only one that didn't leave Hawke. So not looking good if even this game can't understand "He's dead, Jim"
If you romanced Anders it will say that no matter what, it said Isabela and Merrill stayed with my mage.
#17
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:19
#18
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:21
Seriously? I sure hope that's a mistake and that they're gonna fix that, because there's no purpose in giving us choices only to retcon them a game or two later.PirateT138 wrote...
Here's hoping, but first they need to fix the save-game importing so that choices made in 3 are (even if only in small ways) still referenced correctly.
I stabbed the hell out of Zev and yet, poof, there he is in 2.
Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 28 mars 2011 - 03:22 .
#19
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:23
#20
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:25
Foolsfolly wrote...
If you turn Isabela in she escapes and steals the book again. No one can die except Hawkes and Anders, odd enough.
That's what Varric tells you as far as I've heard, and he's not certain if it's true or not.
Foolsfolly wrote...
I agree. What does it matter if Isabela kept the book or not? It's not like she's some major player in the world. She's a 'friendly' pirate who can't steal a boat for 7 years.
Oh, Isabela keeping the book could very well have consequences. Now, see, with the Llomerryn Accord broken and chaos breaking out in Thedas as the Mage/Templar was is starting, the Qunari might well take the chance to invade Thedas again. Now, do you remember what Isabela were orifinally going to do with the book? Give it to Castillon, whose intention is to sell the relic to the Tevinter Imperium, who wants the book to demoralize the Quanri! So, if Isabela doesn't return with the Time, it's likely going to end up in Tevinter.. So if the Qunari indeed attacks Thedas again, one can guess that if the Tevinters have the book, it's there that the hammer blow of the Qunari invasion will strike the hardest, as they'll try to regain their holy relic. In return, the rest of Thedas may experience a comparably light invasion, one that'll be more easily resisted/ousted...
#21
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:29
Oh, Isabela keeping the book could very well have consequences.
And if she comes back we kill the Arishok and/or all the Qunari in the Keep. The book was merely a McGuffin and likely will never be referenced again. I mean if you refuse the duel and kill all the Qunari in the Keep...who keeps the book then?
#22
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 03:35
Foolsfolly wrote...
And if she comes back we kill the Arishok and/or all the Qunari in the Keep. The book was merely a McGuffin and likely will never be referenced again. I mean if you refuse the duel and kill all the Qunari in the Keep...who keeps the book then?
Isabela, possibly. Or maybe Hawke sent it back to Par Vollen along with a nice note (Hello! Here's your book. Please don't come invading again. Thanks! /Hawke). And you're right, it MAY never be referenced to again... But we don't know that
#23
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 01:19
ad1dash0lm3s wrote...
sheppard7 wrote...
PirateT138 wrote...
Here's hoping, but first they need to fix the save-game importing so that choices made in 3 are (even if only in small ways) still referenced correctly.
I stabbed the hell out of Zev and yet, poof, there he is in 2.
I have a feeling this will happen again. I did that to Anders in DA2 but when Varris finishing up, he mentioned Anders was the only one that didn't leave Hawke. So not looking good if even this game can't understand "He's dead, Jim"
If you romanced Anders it will say that no matter what, it said Isabela and Merrill stayed with my mage.
That's because I wanted the achievement and all the others were taking too long to romance. Anders with his clingy ways put up no resistance at all. First time, last time, only time I will mess with that goob. lol
#24
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 01:22
Foolsfolly wrote...
I agree. What does it matter if Isabela kept the book or not? It's not like she's some major player in the world. She's a 'friendly' pirate who can't steal a boat for 7 years.
Merrill, though, she's the one I want to see come back. She's the only interesting character who has a future in front of her...unless they pull an Anders and give us a massive character shift. You know, so massive that it may as well be a completely different character.
After the butchering of Anders, I wouldn't put it pass Bioware at this point. With this sequel, I think even with the lack of time to do KotOR 2, Obsidian may have done a better job than Bioware would have.
And makes me worry that TOR will be a bastardized version of the franchise.
#25
Posté 28 mars 2011 - 04:26
Based upon your choices either the mages will fight the templars or the templars will fight the mages.





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