There was a quest in act one where you help Thrask, a Templar, with a group of Apostates. in my other games I always had Verric in my party at that part and I just let him do the lying. But this timeI didn't have him with me , and I did the lying. In the past I never noticed them get caught, but this time I was walkign about the Gallows at the beginning of act two and there she is. If yo utalk to Thrask he says he tried to disuade the other Templars but it didn't work or whatever. If I rmember correctly, you're supposed to get a piece of the Champion armor from her, does this change? Or does that bit of act three turn out the same either way?
Grace got caught?
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:03
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No, Grace is always recaptured, despite your efforts. It happens some time between acts one and two. If you speak to her, she'll comment about how you let them go 'without food or water' or some such, basically blaming you for the fact that she wasn't prepared to go on the run.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:04
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Okay, Iwasn't sure. I usually talk to everyone I can, makes me feel more involved wit hthe events even though I know I'm not. I'd bever noticed that before. Oh well, thankyou
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:14
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dgcatanisiri wrote...
No, Grace is always recaptured, despite your efforts. It happens some time between acts one and two. If you speak to her, she'll comment about how you let them go 'without food or water' or some such, basically blaming you for the fact that she wasn't prepared to go on the run.
I really wanted to have dialogue with her so I could tell her off. I helped her by lying to the Templars. I wasn't going to kill them for simply doing their job, and it's not like I had time to gather supplies for her.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:16
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Greed1914 wrote...
dgcatanisiri wrote...
No, Grace is always recaptured, despite your efforts. It happens some time between acts one and two. If you speak to her, she'll comment about how you let them go 'without food or water' or some such, basically blaming you for the fact that she wasn't prepared to go on the run.
I really wanted to have dialogue with her so I could tell her off. I helped her by lying to the Templars. I wasn't going to kill them for simply doing their job, and it's not like I had time to gather supplies for her.
I think the bottom line is, you killed her lover (Decimus) and she always harbored a grudge against you for that. The rest struck me as just projection on her part; she was in a ****ty situation, and you were a distinct person to hate. She already hated the templars, but nothing you could have done short of annihilating the order would have made her happy.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:22
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Not true. In my play through she escaped and later I had to fight her and some rebels along with Thrask in act 3.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:24
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Dracotamer wrote...
Not true. In my play through she escaped and later I had to fight her and some rebels along with Thrask in act 3.
If you have a save in Act 2, load it up and go to the Gallows. You'll find her standing next to Alaine. Click on her and you'll hear her venting her frustrations at you while you stand there and take it.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:25
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ShakeyMac wrote...
Greed1914 wrote...
dgcatanisiri wrote...
No, Grace is always recaptured, despite your efforts. It happens some time between acts one and two. If you speak to her, she'll comment about how you let them go 'without food or water' or some such, basically blaming you for the fact that she wasn't prepared to go on the run.
I really wanted to have dialogue with her so I could tell her off. I helped her by lying to the Templars. I wasn't going to kill them for simply doing their job, and it's not like I had time to gather supplies for her.
I think the bottom line is, you killed her lover (Decimus) and she always harbored a grudge against you for that. The rest struck me as just projection on her part; she was in a ****ty situation, and you were a distinct person to hate. She already hated the templars, but nothing you could have done short of annihilating the order would have made her happy.
Exactly. You killed her lover = You need to die. Thats the whole reason she is in the rebellion in Act 3. Lure the Champion into a trap, kill him and then kill every templar around.
Poor Thrask. He deserved something better than that.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:28
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Ugh, why was Grace so hung up on Decimus anyway? I saw him during that cutscene in Act of Mercy. He's hideous...and really old...even tossing aside all the blood magic, he's still just...ew.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:33
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That whole thing makes no sense. I wanted to shake Decimus's hand and tell him "well done old chap." I killed all those meddling templars for them (such a thrill!). What happens? Grace is filled with venom and bile and decides to kill me. With blood magic, no less. What, did she not notice that I was a blood mage living with another blood mage?
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:35
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Camenae wrote...
Ugh, why was Grace so hung up on Decimus anyway? I saw him during that cutscene in Act of Mercy. He's hideous...and really old...even tossing aside all the blood magic, he's still just...ew.
Decimus likely used blood magic on Grace to make her his thrall.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:40
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ThePasserby wrote...
Camenae wrote...
Ugh, why was Grace so hung up on Decimus anyway? I saw him during that cutscene in Act of Mercy. He's hideous...and really old...even tossing aside all the blood magic, he's still just...ew.
Decimus likely used blood magic on Grace to make her this thrall.
Meh... Grace wasn't exactly the most beautiful woman herself
And just look at cults in RL. The leaders don't have to be Brad Pitts to have a harem. Probably worked the same way for Decimus. "We cannot live under the oppression of the chantry! Hear my word! Blood magic is the only way to reach true freedom!"
"You're sooooo hawt, Decimus!"
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:56
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Grace is an annoying, self-entitled ass. I really hate the plot armour she gets until Act 3 that somehow makes the oh so abusive Templars not imprison, kill or tranquil the snooty cow.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:57
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That's an extremely good point. The Templars made other mages tranquil for much lesser offences, one example is Karl in Act one
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 06:59
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I turned in the crazy person to the templars, those poor templars get way to demonized.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:00
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Too bad, there isn't an option to kill her in Act 1. It would of saved so much trouble later on.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:01
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Yeah, it's heavily implied that the templars sexually abuse the mages, in addition to keeping them locked up in tiny, lightless stone rooms all day, but sure, the "poor" templars are too "demonized."
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:01
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I've always been Pro-mage in games like this. the Fereldin Templars weren't all that bad, but the Free Marches Templars are WAY too over-zealous.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:02
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Emperor Iaius I wrote...
Yeah, it's heavily implied that the templars sexually abuse the mages, in addition to keeping them locked up in tiny, lightless stone rooms all day, but sure, the "poor" templars are too "demonized."
Yeah and how many rumors turn out to be blatant falsehoods?
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:05
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I wouldn't be so sceptical of these rumors though. Just look at how the Templars treat the mages openly! I'd hate to see what's done behind closed doorsThe Angry One wrote...
Emperor Iaius I wrote...
Yeah, it's heavily implied that the templars sexually abuse the mages, in addition to keeping them locked up in tiny, lightless stone rooms all day, but sure, the "poor" templars are too "demonized."
Yeah and how many rumors turn out to be blatant falsehoods?
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:06
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Emperor Iaius I wrote...
Yeah, it's heavily implied that the templars sexually abuse the mages, in addition to keeping them locked up in tiny, lightless stone rooms all day, but sure, the "poor" templars are too "demonized."
I've heard the rumors, but I met two bad templars (and one of them was being influenced by an evil idol)... how many mages tried to kill you, summon demons, or useblood magic... or fund experiments that are rather deterimental to Hawke's family life.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:07
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Talladarr wrote...
I wouldn't be so sceptical of these rumors though. Just look at how the Templars treat the mages openly! I'd hate to see what's done behind closed doorsThe Angry One wrote...
Emperor Iaius I wrote...
Yeah, it's heavily implied that the templars sexually abuse the mages, in addition to keeping them locked up in tiny, lightless stone rooms all day, but sure, the "poor" templars are too "demonized."
Yeah and how many rumors turn out to be blatant falsehoods?
Some Templars are rotten, but there are also good ones, which is more than can be said for the mages who turn out to be blood mages, serial killers and abominations one and all.
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Posté 28 mars 2011 - 07:09
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The Angry One wrote...
Some Templars are rotten, but there are also good ones, which is more than can be said for the mages who turn out to be blood mages, serial killers and abominations one and all.
Does that include Bethany and all of those mages the templars
Heh, must be nice to be able to wilfully ignore things.
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