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[Baihu1983]

Aradace wrote...

I liked the DLC personally. However, what I find funny is that they called the achievement "Ultimate Sacrafice". Sorry, call me what you will, but I dont consider 305,000 batarian lives a "sacrafice". I call it "A good start"

Yeah i dont see the point in that name? Maybe if the Doc had seen the error of her ways and sacrificed herself then maybe but in the end?

[AlbertoAquilani]

I hope Mordin calls Shepard out in ME 3. Since my Shepard pointed the finger and accused Mordin of Genocide during his loyalty mission.

[Ty2011]

Didn't Kenson say the asteroid collision would create a supernova like force? Therefore it's not JUST an asteroid hitting the relay it's an asteroid AND the power of a supernova. You can see near the end how the blast perimeter obliterated all the planets in the system. Sounds like enough firepower to destroy... anything. Even the indestructible relays.

[Ty2011]

Aradace wrote...

Dont....care.  Im not usually one for complete genocide but I'd definately be on board for it with the Batarians involved

How ignorant of you.

[Baihu1983]

Ty2011 wrote...

Didn't Kenson say the asteroid collision would create a supernova like force? Therefore it's not JUST an asteroid hitting the relay it's an asteroid AND the power of a supernova. You can see near the end how the blast perimeter obliterated all the planets in the system. Sounds like enough firepower to destroy... anything. Even the indestructible relays.

Pretty much.

[Unato]

think we're just arguing about the rock hitting the relay and going boom. if it didn't go boom then there would be no supernova like force ya?

[Aradace]

Ty2011 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Dont....care.  Im not usually one for complete genocide but I'd definately be on board for it with the Batarians involved

How ignorant of you.

How very naive of you

[SergeySW]

Ty2011 wrote...

Baihu1983 wrote...

Screwed from the start which is a bit lame IMO.

I thought when I chose "warn the Batarians" it would actually warn them. Paragon Shepard should have found a way. 

SergeySW wrote...

Oooh, this video  play, if the timer get to zero (after death of Dr. Kenson). It's FAIL end for Arrival.

Wow, insane.

TIM, Ashley, Miranda.. the whole squad together getting annihilated by Reapers. Can you even import after that? I mean could ME3 start like that? I imagine after that cutscene you just die and have to resume/load. Otherwise ME3 will just be cleaning up bodies.

You die, yes. "CRITICAL ERROR. MISSION FAILED" We can't import game and have to load save game

[Aradace]

Baihu1983 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

I liked the DLC personally. However, what I find funny is that they called the achievement "Ultimate Sacrafice". Sorry, call me what you will, but I dont consider 305,000 batarian lives a "sacrafice". I call it "A good start"

Yeah i dont see the point in that name? Maybe if the Doc had seen the error of her ways and sacrificed herself then maybe but in the end?

That would have been more appropriate I think.

[Tazzmission]

InHarmsWay wrote...

Big stupid jellyfish wrote...

Guys, I've seen this video - the user claims it can be found in the Arrival 'Movie' folder. In this short video I can clearly see:

SPOILERS

Reaper harvesting the Citadel
A bunch of characters on Illium: TIM, Ashley, Joker, Chakwas, Mordin, Garrus (ones I was able to clearly identify, the silhouettes seem to suggest there are more NPCs there)

It's also said the video isn't used in the Arrival per se. Possible ME3 stuff?

Can someone verify whether it's legitimate or not?

i just did the dlc after sm so i thought we get 5 or is it just this 1?

Oh hey. It looks like the VS does appear in this dlc.

It looks like returning team for me3.

[DaBigDragon]

AlbertoAquilani wrote...

I hope Mordin calls Shepard out in ME 3. Since my Shepard pointed the finger and accused Mordin of Genocide during his loyalty mission.

Oooo, I like that idea. Very interesting idea.

[SmokePants]

Ugh, Relays can't survive a supernova. They never could. You all are just misremembering what actually happened to the Mu relay. It was not in the middle of an exploding star -- it was light years away.

Modifié par SmokePants, 29 mars 2011 - 02:37 .

[Marta Rio]

Ok, so this is probably answered somewhere in the 10 previous pages (I'm far too lazy to look), but can someone tell me why, if Kenson and her crew were indoctrinated by the object Rho thingy, why they were getting the asteroid ready to smash up the relay?  Wouldn't the easiest thing just have been to avoid doing any of that? 

I can understand them maybe starting to get that task accomplished, before they felt the effects of indoctrination, but they pretty much had the asteroid all ready to go.  Meaning that the Reapers let them finish outfitting the asteroid, and only waited until after Kenson returned from her Batarian holiday to throw a wrench into the plans.  At the last possible second. 

If someone has a good explanation for this, I'd love to hear it.  It's quite possible I missed some detail because I was so jazzed that there was finally some new ME content to play.

[Ty2011]

Aradace wrote...
How very naive of you

Not really.

[Major Alenko]

Ty2011 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Dont....care.  Im not usually one for complete genocide but I'd definately be on board for it with the Batarians involved

How ignorant of you.

I'm guessing Batarians killed his parents on Mindoir. ^^

[TMA LIVE]

Gibb_Shepard wrote...

Much appreciated.

While thats a very interesting setup, i can't get past the inconsistencies already prevalent from that quick summary.

How does an Asteroid destory a Mass Relay? Considering they cannot even be blown up by a supernova, how the hell does an asteroid destroy one?

An Alpha Relay? A relay they could've used from the beginning of Mass Effect, and could've used again through the entirety of ME2? Is it explained why this couldn't be used before hand by the reapers?

1) In ME1, a blast wave pushed it away. It wasn't actually hit by a small planet at high speed.

2) From what I gather, the Alpha Relay uses a relay on the Reapers end to go through it. I'll take them 2 years to get to it at FTL speed (which is now). Whereas the Citedal allowed them to control and lock down relays, and trap enemies within their system. Even if the Alpha relay is destroyed, they can simply get to another relay on their end. However, that would take them a few more years.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 29 mars 2011 - 02:36 .

[Ty2011]

Commodore Q wrote...

Ty2011 wrote...

Aradace wrote...

Dont....care.  Im not usually one for complete genocide but I'd definately be on board for it with the Batarians involved

How ignorant of you.

I'm guessing Batarians killed his parents on Mindoir. ^^

Or maybe he had a Batarian uncle that touched him inappropriately? The world will never know...

[Icinix]

 Great...more set narrative...

<_<

[PnXMarcin1PL]

Well, the Relay after it; destruction releases powerfull mass effect from it's control. That caused a supernova, also war with batarians. Just great....

[Aradace]

Ty2011 wrote...

Aradace wrote...
How very naive of you

Not really.

I think we should just 'agree to disagree" and leave it at that
Sorry, but I dont believe in the pointlessness of "Everyone should get along and hold hands while singing kumbahya"  It's a naive, and childish thing to hold on to and believe in because that concept can never and will never take hold even in the real world.  As long as there are people/sentient beings, there will always be war and fighting because there will always be someone willing to wage it.

Modifié par Aradace, 29 mars 2011 - 02:39 .

[TMA LIVE]

People are really going to think Shepard is a terrorist/madman when he claims he destroyed a system full of people to stop "reapers".

[RoboticWater]

SmokePants wrote...

Ugh, Relays can't survive a supernova. They never could. You all are just misremembering what actually happened to the Mu relay.

I think all of us should get off the topic of realistic explosions, it's like Burn Notice; when things explode, it doesn't matter how, it's just cool 

[Unato]

TMA LIVE wrote...

People are really going to think Shepard
is a terrorist/madman when he claims he destroyed a system full of
people to stop "reapers".

until the reapers starts knocking on their own planet, in which case I hope we get the option to say "I told you so"

Modifié par Unato, 29 mars 2011 - 02:38 .

[TatsumaruIshida]

Dave666 wrote...

That would be an excellent point if we knew that Relays can repair, though its certainly not outside of the realm of possibility.  Damned clever idea actually.  As of this point though its pure speculation.

I'd say we do know, and I quote from the Secondary Codex Entry - Arrival: The Reaper's Secrets, Sub-Entry: The Alpha Relay.

"Discovering the age of a mass relay is not an easy task. Relays can shield themselves to preserve their integrity down to the quantum level so taking a sample for analysis proves nigh impossible. Relays also maintain self-cleaning cycles, wiping away potential evidence, though damage or dormancy can cause this cycle to break down (such as in the case of the Charon Relay, which became covered in ice)"

As for the supernova while copying this entry i spotted this one, Secondary Codex Entry - Planets and Locations, Sub-Entry: IIos,

"Four thousand years ago, the Mu relay was knocked out of position by a supernova and lost"

It doesnt say the relay was in a supernova, all we know is it was knocked out of position. Taking that into account perhaps the nova didnt occur in its system but the shockwave did hit it with enough force to move it and lets not forget the relay would keep moving till it hit something to stop it.

We dont know what strength the shockwave was upon impact. But because it survived we have to assume that the relay was far enough away to survive. Certainly people need to stop thinking the relay was next to the star when it went nova.

Modifié par TatsumaruIshida, 29 mars 2011 - 02:41 .

[Icinix]

I don't know if this has been mentioned...

but this sets up Zulu's 'ME3 starts with a prison break theory' out quite nicely.....we'll never hear the end of it...