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InHarmsWay wrote...

Anyone get the covert action achievement? I didn't. How do you get it?

Also how many upgrades were in this? I found 2. Heavy weapon ammo and skin.


Yeah, save before every door and if you see Batarians find another way around. The only ywo things I killed were the first two Varren in the beginning and I got the achievment.

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Yakko77 wrote...

MarqueAZ wrote...

As a snapshot to the sacrifices that will be made in ME3, it was fantastic. Am I the only one who took her time? I got more than an hour out of the DLC. The asteroid station environment was awesome, especially their control panels. :D


Took me a ittle over an hour too.  I  found lots of upgrade.  Heavy Skin Weave, Heavy Ammo and Medi-gell upgrades.  Lots of resources and a fair amount of credits.


Where's the medi-gel upgrade?

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InHarmsWay wrote...

Anyone get the covert action achievement? I didn't. How do you get it?

Also how many upgrades were in this? I found 2. Heavy weapon ammo and skin.



only achivement i got was ultimate sacrifice. i missed the head hunter during the swarms of troops

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Just a curious inquiry. Does the Geth Plasma Shotgun not work on destructible objects for anyone else? Can't seem to blow up the locks on the hangar door and things of that nature with it in Arrival. Not sure if it didn't work elsewhere in the game, but I swear it has before.

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Thoughts When playing Arrival:

Aw sweet~! Stealth Gameplay!

(When betrayed by kenson) Oh you dumb ****.

(En-route to Engines.) ****. - ****! - ****!

Final thoughts. (Include Paragon And Renegade.)

Paragon: My god... I Just Commited Genocide.  Image IPB

Renegade: Best. Multikill. EVAR. Image IPB

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Tazzmission wrote...

Chewy2nd wrote...

It'd be pretty cool if Mass Effect 3 did start in a courtroom, purely for the whole dialouge tree it'd bring :D




that could be great for a ending come to think of it. imagine defeating the reapers and  you must go to trial for the choice  you made about the batarian relay. paragon option can show shepard  free of all charges and gets awarded a medal, renegade i can see the council give shepard a life sentice regardless his acomplishments he did in all 3 games


Or maybe a "YOU'LL  NEVER  TAKE  ME  ALIVE" option.  Hail of bullets.  Dead Shep.

=]

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I can't believe how many people are upset because they don't get to be a white hat goody two-shoes in this DLC. Sound like complete fennels.  

Gene Roddenberry's Pollyannish hippie vision of the future went out with the 60s. Get a haircut, hippies.

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Maestro975 wrote...

I can't believe how many people are upset because they don't get to be a white hat goody two-shoes in this DLC. Sound like complete fennels.  

Gene Roddenberry's Pollyannish hippie vision of the future went out with the 60s. Get a haircut, hippies.



:happy::lol::devil:

Well said!

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Esbatty wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

The Illusive Man being there makes me far more excited than I should be, maybe we can highfive and ride around in the Collector Base with the windows rolled down.

TIM: Hello Shepard.
ManShep: Hello Illusive Man.
TIM: I have some important information for you.
...

FemShep: Hello Illusive Man.
*champagne cork whizzes by her head*
TIM: Hello, Sexy.
FemShep: Uhh...
TIM: I have something important for you... in my pants.


Made me :lol:  especially after reading the file the SB had on him, he seems to be a player.

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Yakko77 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Chewy2nd wrote...

It'd be pretty cool if Mass Effect 3 did start in a courtroom, purely for the whole dialouge tree it'd bring :D




that could be great for a ending come to think of it. imagine defeating the reapers and  you must go to trial for the choice  you made about the batarian relay. paragon option can show shepard  free of all charges and gets awarded a medal, renegade i can see the council give shepard a life sentice regardless his acomplishments he did in all 3 games


Or maybe a "YOU'LL  NEVER  TAKE  ME  ALIVE" option.  Hail of bullets.  Dead Shep.

=]



i can see shepard pull a chronichles of riddick move at the end. the ending of that film was great. imagine the coucil reading shepard his history of charges


two counts of assult on a news reporter

blowing up a base on pragia

joining cerbrus


executing a politician ( jorum)

 destroying alpha relay wich resulted the annhialation of batarian space....

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Yakko77 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Chewy2nd wrote...

It'd be pretty cool if Mass Effect 3 did start in a courtroom, purely for the whole dialouge tree it'd bring :D




that could be great for a ending come to think of it. imagine defeating the reapers and  you must go to trial for the choice  you made about the batarian relay. paragon option can show shepard  free of all charges and gets awarded a medal, renegade i can see the council give shepard a life sentice regardless his acomplishments he did in all 3 games


Or maybe a "YOU'LL  NEVER  TAKE  ME  ALIVE" option.  Hail of bullets.  Dead Shep.

=]



i can see shepard pull a chronichles of riddick move at the end. the ending of that film was great. imagine the coucil reading shepard his history of charges


two counts of assult on a news reporter

blowing up a base on pragia

joining cerbrus


executing a politician ( jorum)

 destroying alpha relay wich resulted the annhialation of batarian space....


i can see the verdic say hes guilty and shepard just starts picking a fight with the 3 council members

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Paragon Sheperd is not "Always has a way out of every tough decision" Sheperd. Quit whining. This is what they meant by "Bridging DLC" -- these events had to happen to set up ME3. Liara is the new Shadow Broker and Sheperd is going on trial. Deal with it.

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yeh I think shepard was emotional enough. Do try to remember guys that Shepard is least emotionally invested in batarians. They are an alien race that is hostile towards humans in general and he's not got to know one personally as a squadmate yet or a chance to see another side to them, they were all hostile to him in ME2.

I'm not saying shepard was heartless. But when faced with a choice that big and knowing the scale of what you might save and knowing that shepard is a soldier that has been through a lot more - I mean heck theres a sidequest in ME2 where you can choose to get a load of human civilians killed and there isn't even any dialog for it. I can understand why 300,000 baterians doesn't seem like a big deal and I can understand shepard as a hardened soldier standing strong and firm in front of hackett.

If you think about it it comes back to what Ash was saying in ME1. Where she brought up the conversation about putting your race first. Would have made it easier to swallow knowing that they weren't humans and knowing all the alien races he'd save too. I mean its not his fault the batarians are right on the edge of space.

Modifié par Pr3ying M4nt15 360, 29 mars 2011 - 04:11 .


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Did anyone not Renegade shoot Dr. Kenson? My Shepard had full Paragon but I thought it was the right decision to shoot someone holding a detonation device. If he was willing to sacrifice 300,000 people then he should be able to kill one crazy one.

Anyone know what happens if you don't shoot her?

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I'm getting a strong sense after playing this DLC that one of the outcomes to ME3 could be Shep facing a death penalty after all is said and done for wiping out 300,000+ Batarians. Yes you might of saved everyone in the end but you still wiped out a whole system to do it. Just one outcome tho.:whistle:

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When they are talking about Shepard going to trial over this, they mean after the events of ME2. The whole issue is that the Alliance doesn't want to be at war with the Batarians when the Reapers arrive.

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Ty2011 wrote...

Did anyone not Renegade shoot Dr. Kenson? My Shepard had full Paragon but I thought it was the right decision to shoot someone holding a detonation device. If he was willing to sacrifice 300,000 people then he should be able to kill one crazy one.

Anyone know what happens if you don't shoot her?

Shep tries to talk her down.

And fails...

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...
 it is really up to the player to invest such emotion into the game.


To a point I agree.  But its always been as a result of Shepards reaction.  Look at Ovelord and how it thrusts emotional attachment upon you.  Look at simple side quests in ME1 where you influence a decision over an unborn baby.

These are over the life of one person.

Here we have 300,000 people and all the reactions in the DLC are cold and just plainly ignored.  There is no emotional attachment what so ever being displayed.  The dialogue shrugs it off completly.  We react because of Shepards reaction to the scene. Just like the end of Overlord.   It didnt exist in this DLC.  why?  This is one the most emotionally powerfull things to have occured in the game. I find it is unbelievable that its been addressed so poorly in my eyes!     Other missions have set a norm for emotional attachment and reactions you expect as a paragon. They simply didnt exist in this DLC.

Modifié par Captain Crash, 29 mars 2011 - 04:14 .


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SmokePants wrote...

Paragon Sheperd is not "Always has a way out of every tough decision" Sheperd. Quit whining. This is what they meant by "Bridging DLC" -- these events had to happen to set up ME3. Liara is the new Shadow Broker and Sheperd is going on trial. Deal with it.


We're ok with the ultimate sacrifice. We're not ok with paragon Shepards being OOC while sacrificing (and after). Be more careful while reading the posts, please, Captain Crash is making sense.

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InHarmsWay wrote...

Anyone get the covert action achievement? I didn't. How do you get it?

Also how many upgrades were in this? I found 2. Heavy weapon ammo and skin.


Where did you find the Heavy Weapon ammo one? Because I found a Medi Gel Upgrade.

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Normandy was in the system and recording what happened, So perhaps Cerberus will give evidence to the Batarians when Shep has become to much a nuisance (paragon) or useless (renegade) to TIM. :P

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Tazzmission wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Chewy2nd wrote...

It'd be pretty cool if Mass Effect 3 did start in a courtroom, purely for the whole dialouge tree it'd bring :D




that could be great for a ending come to think of it. imagine defeating the reapers and  you must go to trial for the choice  you made about the batarian relay. paragon option can show shepard  free of all charges and gets awarded a medal, renegade i can see the council give shepard a life sentice regardless his acomplishments he did in all 3 games


Or maybe a "YOU'LL  NEVER  TAKE  ME  ALIVE" option.  Hail of bullets.  Dead Shep.

=]



i can see shepard pull a chronichles of riddick move at the end. the ending of that film was great. imagine the coucil reading shepard his history of charges


two counts of assult on a news reporter

blowing up a base on pragia

joining cerbrus


executing a politician ( jorum)

 destroying alpha relay wich resulted the annhialation of batarian space....


i can see the verdic say hes guilty and shepard just starts picking a fight with the 3 council members

I hope to get three counts of assult on a news reporter by the end of Mass Effect 3 :D

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KEDASUPAVILLAIN wrote...

I'm getting a strong sense after playing this DLC that one of the outcomes to ME3 could be Shep facing a death penalty after all is said and done for wiping out 300,000+ Batarians. Yes you might of saved everyone in the end but you still wiped out a whole system to do it. Just one outcome tho.:whistle:


That would be a shame. Obviously too bad for the batarians, but overall Shepherd's actions are worthy of a VC.

That would be a horrible outcome if Shepherd was court martialled.

Modifié par Wereparrot, 29 mars 2011 - 04:20 .


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Ty2011 wrote...

Did anyone not Renegade shoot Dr. Kenson? My Shepard had full Paragon but I thought it was the right decision to shoot someone holding a detonation device. If he was willing to sacrifice 300,000 people then he should be able to kill one crazy one.

Anyone know what happens if you don't shoot her?


She blows herself up (flaming bits of her all over which I sort of chuckled at to be honest  :huh::blink::? ) and the blast sends you flying into a wall stunning you for a period of time.  When you come to your senses, it's a mad dash to get to the comm bouy before the asteroid hits the relay.

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Chewy2nd wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Chewy2nd wrote...

It'd be pretty cool if Mass Effect 3 did start in a courtroom, purely for the whole dialouge tree it'd bring :D




that could be great for a ending come to think of it. imagine defeating the reapers and  you must go to trial for the choice  you made about the batarian relay. paragon option can show shepard  free of all charges and gets awarded a medal, renegade i can see the council give shepard a life sentice regardless his acomplishments he did in all 3 games


Or maybe a "YOU'LL  NEVER  TAKE  ME  ALIVE" option.  Hail of bullets.  Dead Shep.

=]



i can see shepard pull a chronichles of riddick move at the end. the ending of that film was great. imagine the coucil reading shepard his history of charges


two counts of assult on a news reporter

blowing up a base on pragia

joining cerbrus


executing a politician ( jorum)

 destroying alpha relay wich resulted the annhialation of batarian space....


i can see the verdic say hes guilty and shepard just starts picking a fight with the 3 council members

I hope to get three counts of assult on a news reporter by the end of Mass Effect 3 :D



i really wanna chris brown that asari on the council.... she's always annoyed me