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[PanosSmirnakos]

Maybe console versions are easier then?



I've read from gamespot's review for DA:O that the PC version is harder and the console versions are kinda more action oriented and less strategic in battles. I have the PC version so I can't confirm this personally. I'm saying this not to start a flame war but maybe this is one of the main reasons some ppl finish the game in 50 hrs and others in 100+ hrs. Other reasons may be not gathering all the armies, don't bother with the sidequests, playing on easy mode, skip dialogues, etc...

[Irovagh]

Well I am probably going to get laughed at for this one but here it goes....



The part where you go through the trial for the Sacred Sands crossing the bridge took me two hours to get across the first play through. The second time still took me an hour cause i forgot to write the code down LOL. But in all joking and screw ups aside not counting reloads it only took me 60 hours first play through on Easy as I didnt do alot of the side quests. Second playthrough it took me about 75 hours. I keep going though Ive beaten it with every possible outcome. The game still keeps dragging me back in.

[Darth Obvious]

72 hours on my first playthrough, and there will still some side-quests I missed (and some convos I hurried through). Longest game I have ever played...



Almost too long, in fact...



That begs the question: how long is too long?

[Urik187]

dont forget that probably includes taking time to read the codex's and dialogues as mentioned

[Urik187]

honestly i never payed much mind to how long it takes.

for me it takes as long as it takes. its not how and when you get there. its if you enjoyed the ride

[Revik]

If you fast forward through a movie in 15 minutes and claim the movie is too short what kind or reception do you think you would get?



Because that is essentially what you have done.



I bet you can give us examples of other games taking you upwards to 100+ hours which you thought was good but I bet those games were filled with useless game filler that is meant to waste your time. If you actually enjoy this game filler than more power to you.



Some people prefer less game filler and more dialogue. You know the stuff you skip through. And if this is not your cup of tea then you should probably not play any more Bioware games any longer because that is what you are going to get.

[Psython]

I took about 45hrs. for my first playthrough on normal. I must have done about half the sidequests in the game, maybe less depending on ones I missed. I read most of the codex. Also this was without the dlc missions. I wonder if people with 80+ hour game time spend a lot of time just running around? Still, no arguing here that the game is a long one. I am currently replaying on hard and the game is still fun!

[errant_knight]

Psython wrote...

I took about 45hrs. for my first playthrough on normal. I must have done about half the sidequests in the game, maybe less depending on ones I missed. I read most of the codex. Also this was without the dlc missions. I wonder if people with 80+ hour game time spend a lot of time just running around? Still, no arguing here that the game is a long one. I am currently replaying on hard and the game is still fun!

Nope. All spent doing stuff and I don't always read the codex entries if I'm immersed in the action when they come up. I also haven't done the mage's collective or mercenary quests, as doing them doesn't fit with my character. I do talk to people as much as possible, especially the characters in camp. For me, the most enjoyable part in the game is reactions from NPCs and companions to dialogue choices and the differences it makes to the game. I rarely skip a cut scene, unless I watched it seconds before and am reloading to backtrack on a dialogue choice that got unintended results (sometimes they don't mean what I think they mean). I don't really understand how its possible to get through so fast if one is talking to all the characters one is supposed to and fully exploring all the places in the game, but having fun is the main thing, so I don't suppose it matters unless like the op, one feels that the game is short. In that case, I have to say, it's only short if you want it to be.

[Thelios0]

I sit at 115.5 hours.  Playing as a mage on normal difficulty, pc version.  Have Shale quest and Wardens Keep Installed and completed.  Completed 3 of the main quests paths.  Mage at level 18.  I never looked at this type of game as one to rush.  In fact, I hardly ever take a rogue on first time through an area, prefer mages and Shale.  Once I go through the area, I will go back through with a rogue to loot and get the XP disabling traps.  Still end up with some battles triggered by some things.  If I need a fast game, I just play Unreal Tournament 3 or Grid.... 

Modifié par Thelios0, 08 janvier 2010 - 07:03 .

[RangerSG]

My first game finished at 116.5 hours. Playing as a mage with normal difficulty, no DLC installed. And I didn't 'backtrack' areas to find additional stuff. Though I did go some places to close out quests or do some sidetrips that turned out needless in the end. But still, that was a pretty 'straight-up' playthrough with nothing but the original content.

[Ravenfeeder]

First game ~70 hours but I missed a lot of side quests. Did read a lot of codex entries though. All on normal with Warden's Keep and Stone Prisoner installed. I also let all the voice play through rather than reading the subtitles (have them switched off), which is the first time I've done that in a game - kudos to the Voice talent and their director.



Of course on 4th paly I'm escaping though most convo's (apart from Leliana's)

[Zepheera]

None of my completionist play throughs was more than 45 hours, and the ones that lasted the longest were the firsts ones where I stopped tosearch for and read all of the codex entries. It's all about how much you explore the world, listen to dialogue rather than skipping through it, and how you complete the side quests. Most of the time my side quests are completed on the way to one of the main missions, (ie. world encounters or turning in missions that started in another part of the world) which cuts down on the time factor significantly.  All of my play throughs were done on either hard (2) or extreme.

I've completed the game 9 times now, completing every side quest and getting to between lvl 23 and 25 on each of the characters, and my fastest time was still just over 27 hours, which was almost entirely due to skipping through about 95% of the dialogue.

Like others have said, it's all about how you play the game, if you're a power gamer that has significant experience, chances are your total time playing is going to be on the shorter end of the spectrum,

If you want more, I'd suggest starting a new character and playing a different origin, the differences in dialogues and interactions with NPCs makes it a lot of fun to do.

Modifié par Zepheera, 08 janvier 2010 - 07:29 .

[MerinTB]

novaseeker wrote...

There are so many variables that make it hard to compare playtimes, such as:

- mode (easy/hard/nightmare)
- treatment of dialogue (do you listen, or do you just read subtitles and get it over with?)
- codex (do you read it always, sometimes, never?)
- side quests (do them or not?)
- romances (bother with them, or not?)

This is definitely the main thing.

How do people get to 80+ hours (myself, first was 128 hours) on a run-through?

Here are factors that affected my time (playstyle, system, environment, etc.)

- Playing on the PC at Normal difficulty, no mods on the first time through
- I pause ALOT in combat (always have in these kinds of games) as I love micro-managing the party's actions
- first run through I was tweaking the tactics for my party a lot, so a lot of time going through the options and seeing how they affected combat
- I talked to EVERY NPC that you can click on.
- I read every Codex entry, not skimmed - sometimes reread good ones or to tie together connected entries
- I explore every inch of evey map I get on, often backtracking if I think I might be down a hall or corridor that "ends the area" before I've finished exploring the whole map (this is an old habit from games that used to force you off a map if you triggered the end goal of the map.)
- I listen to the entire dialog as spoken by people.  I consider my responses and what best fits the character I am playing.  Sometimes this causes a quandry and I might spend a good five minutes deciding a response for certain situations if two options seem equally likely or no options seem to fit my character.
- I go back to areas after they are clear and talk to people after major events have happened: say I cleared Orzammar, and then went on and cleared Redcliffe - I'd go back to Orzammar and talk to the key NPCs and merchants to see if anything had changed as a result (it often does.)
- with my chosen party members (I try to stick to the same party members through the whole game as much as possible in Bioware games) I do all the conversations in camp, often checking back with them after major events to see if they have new stuff to say
- I stop moving to listen to the intra-party banter
- I micromanage equipment and items, trying to decide what best to give my guys from what's available while balancing what I think looks cool and what the characters as I am RPing them would use
- I often revisit merchants, when I have more money or after a major event has happened (kind of mentioned before, but not in the context of more money)
- I don't use a walkthrough AT ALL, any FAQ or forum advice: first time through I soldier on, making my own decisions and discoveries (and opinions) so I'm not influenced by others and I get to make my own mistakes, miss items and dialog results on my own that I get to discover on my own on replays, etc.

I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff, but that should give those of you who say "I beat it 30 hours and I DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE, what do you guys who get over 50 hours leave your game on for a week without playing it?" an idea of how I can take 128 hours.

[Ascending-Gambit]

Dude, don't play on casual, and do some side quests.

[pathenry]

Its cheaper to hire some voice over losers to talk for 50 hours and count that as "game time" then it is to create 50 hours of levels, mobs, art, quests, etc. that we can actually play.

[Viglin]

pathenry wrote...



Its cheaper to hire some voice over losers to talk for 50 hours and count that as "game time" then it is to create 50 hours of levels, mobs, art, quests, etc. that we can actually play.

First, have you any idea who actually does the Voice overs? Unless your Mark Hamil.

Second, only people who cant get 50 hours plus on their first play through actually playing the game, are fpsers who shouldnt be playing an RPG expecting a splatfest in the first place then comming on here to complain.

[Iris562]

Lisalyanne wrote...

OK, no one in town has the strategy guide in, and I must be missing a lot of content or something.  I heard the game was supposed to be around 75 hours long, I have finished it twice in around 32 hours each time.  Including Wardens Keep and Shale DLC.  I search around for as much as the side missions that I can find, and still find myself lacking in content.  I love the game but finding myself wanting a lot more content.  I have done the side quests for the NPC's, Morrigan, Leliana, Alistair, Sten, Shale, Zevran (more of an incounter), Wynne...Done all the blackstone irregular quests I can find, quests from the tavern in Denerim, the Mages collective, Crows and burglary.  

What am I missing?  Thanks!
Lisalyanne

 There are several Codex Quests (31 I believe) That may not show up as quests at all; you have to manually read/complete them.

[pathenry]

Viglin wrote...
First, have you any idea who actually does the Voice overs?

So? Expensive actors like Dr. Frankenfurter don't have that many lines.

Many are just random_voice_actor_01 droning on and on about the defense of Redcliffe or telling me I must need supplies after all that.

Its still cheaper than creating content - i.e. maps, levels, game mechanics, art, troubleshooting, QA, etc. (Otherwise, maybe they wouln't have re-used the same 'dirty city street' zone 5 times).

[fantasypisces]

My third playthrough I did on hard/nightmare. I got 75% quests done and Traveler achievement. Finished at 23 (with about half a level from elf-root turnins). Took me 43 hours. Skipping almost every dialogue through rampant use of Esc.



My first playthrough on easy I skipped a lot but finished at 57 hours.

Second playthrough I did pretty much everything on normal difficulty and finished at 50 hours.



All those times include 5 minute 'smoke breaks' usually each hour, and the occasional leave the game up for an hour or so while i get distracted.

[WhiteEclipse]

The people who say the game took them over 100 hours, probably leave it on pause (esc. button), go eat and shower and come back. The game counts that time.

[Iris562]

WhiteEclipse wrote...

The people who say the game took them over 100 hours, probably leave it on pause (esc. button), go eat and shower and come back. The game counts that time.

 That, or they want to hit every single Party Banter area, which are quite numerous, and have several different combinations of the characters you currently have in your active party.