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[artsangel]

I have completed several playthroughs and have never managed to get Sandal to say the prophecy. He always goes on about wanting cake or salamanders. Is there a specific act or event that it immediately follows? Or is it just a matter of clicking him lots until he finally says it?

[mnomaha]

I'm not sure. I'm in Act 3 now. I've never heard that before but I rarely try to talk to him.

[Jorrkit]

At the end of DA:O, when you find Sandal surrounded by myriad darkspawn corpses and ask him, "What happened?", he replies, "ENCHANTMENT!" However, when Hawke encounters the frozen ogre and inquires about it, Sandal replies...... "NOT enchantment."

So maybe Sandal "enchanted" the darkspawn in Origins, but Flemeth froze the ogre!

[Warden-Commander Shepard]

Maybe the ogre stepped on Sandal's frost rune? That would be the ogre's fault, not enchantment. Hence, "not enchantment."

I'm bad at this

[Jorrkit]

"I like Bodahn!"

[Jayphil]

I hope its the "god child" morrigan has...  he's got The warden's blood (mine was a magi) the arch-demon/old god's power not to mention morrigans.... He's going to be a handful. might go the route of sephiroth. utter destruction esp when mages and templars are at war etc.

either that or If you let the demon wait for Connor... he's also got magical talent. but more likely it would be morrigan's child

.....

[Jorrkit]

I was hoping Morrigan's and my Warden's child would be a girl. Seemed more fitting, somehow.

Modifié par Jorrkit, 29 mars 2011 - 05:49 .

[Meyne]

Sandal I think originally was just supposed to be what he appears to be - a lyrium-addled dwarf reduced to seeming simple (and maybe is) but is now greatly skilled in folding lyrium into things for it. I remember reading that Sandal in Drakon was a joke of sorts originally - Laidlaw mentioned doing a play-test of a late build and IMing the guy in charge of that section with "HAHAHAHA" and got the reply of "Ah, found Sandal?" It was just left in because it was amusing and hey, it doesn't hurt to give people a last chance at a few health and lyrium potions or to optimize their enchantments a bit better.

Now, that isn't to say that from that hasn't grown something a bit more interesting and story-effecting - there might have been something from that which just made tossing Sandal in as "something more" a better way to push the plot of future games onward and give them some easier to show connection between games too (beyond just Flemeth). He could just still be a savant and this all be an inside joke that is never explained, but who knows? I won't assume he's a god-baby placed back in time as a dwarf or the Maker or anything, that other thread about the primeval thaig is an interesting line to pursue, not to mention anything with Kal-Sharok being different for its independent survival. The answer should be something enjoyable to say the least though (even the "never explained" answer, sometimes those loose ends just make a story better).

Modifié par Meyne, 29 mars 2011 - 06:19 .

[Meyne]

whoops, doubles.

Modifié par Meyne, 29 mars 2011 - 06:19 .

[Aramintai]

"One day the magic will come back - all of it. Everyone will be just like they were. The shadows will part and the skies will open wide. When he rises, everyone will see."
I think that when he speaks about shadows he means the Fade. Something will happen to the Fade, maybe it will merge with the world of Thedas, a rift so great that it will tear the border between two worlds completely. And magic will become available to everyone, as it was said it "will come back - all of it". "The skies will be open wide" - with the Fade wide open the Black City will be once again reachable. "When he rises, everyone will see" - this is it, the return of the Maker. Be it the old Maker, risen from its slumber because of this cataclysm, or a new one - the one who has risen in power so great that can be considered godlike, perhaps Morrigan's child, perhaps some new protagonist.

So I'm guessing the war between the templars and mages that has begun in DA II will set in motion the events that will result in worldwide cataclysm. Perhaps the mages, like the magisters of old will perform some kind of huge ritual gone wrong. Whatever it may be DA III is bound to be large scale epic. If it won't be on par with the epicness of BG II: Throne of Bhaal I will be massively dissapointed, as all the pieces are there to make an epic conclusion.

Modifié par Aramintai, 29 mars 2011 - 06:53 .

[vocalemuse]

artsangel wrote...

I have completed several playthroughs and have never managed to get Sandal to say the prophecy. He always goes on about wanting cake or salamanders. Is there a specific act or event that it immediately follows? Or is it just a matter of clicking him lots until he finally says it?

I think you have to wait until you're in Act 3 and click on him repeatedly until he does it... however, someone has put it on youtube if you want to hear Sandal saying it. Bodahn's reaction is really quite funny. xD

Modifié par vocalemuse, 29 mars 2011 - 06:59 .

[king_donk-o]

I'm Guessing the next game we will be in or near orlais since a lot of people in the game are taking about it AND Bohdan says him and Sandal are going to Orlais

[Killjoy Cutter]

king_donk-o wrote...

I'm Guessing the next game we will be in or near orlais since a lot of people in the game are taking about it AND Bohdan says him and Sandal are going to Orlais

The Nexus Gollum in the underground ruins nearest the Dalish camp (right near the area exit) says something cryptic about Orlais as well. 

[Lord Gremlin]

Old god baby. That's it. It's essentially an Old God, born in mortal world again.

And then everyone will be enchanted to death.

[Alren]

What if in the next game, the antagonist kills Bohdan. Then maybe we will see Sandal lose it and go BOOM all over the place

[Eternal Phoenix]

Stupid dwarf idiot Bodhan Fedderic Tatam Tarantula nearly dies in the deep roads if you decline his quest to find Sandal.

[RyuStrife]

Jayphil wrote...

I hope its the "god child" morrigan has...  he's got The warden's blood (mine was a magi) the arch-demon/old god's power not to mention morrigans.... He's going to be a handful. might go the route of sephiroth. utter destruction esp when mages and templars are at war etc.

Oi... I'd hope not...  I wouldn't be able to say 'That's daddie's little boy!'

[Kitaen]

I particularly like the idea that Sandal is the Maker.
Would explain why he has been 'absent' and always littered with bodies about him.
Can't kill the Maker, right?
Flemeth says she is an 'old, old woman' potentially the Makers wife or mother maybe? =o
The old woman is scary huh? ...interesting. =3

[Lord Gremlin]

Kitaen wrote...

I particularly like the idea that Sandal is the Maker.
Would explain why he has been 'absent' and always littered with bodies about him.
Can't kill the Maker, right?
Flemeth says she is an 'old, old woman' potentially the Makers wife or mother maybe? =o
The old woman is scary huh? ...interesting. =3

I firmly believe that he is the Maker. Explains everything, really.

[RyuStrife]

Now that you bring it up... It makes sense. Bodahn did state he randomly found him. Perhaps the Maker foreseen Flemeth's and Morrigan's plan and decided to aid people to seek out evil God baby.

[Shacary]

you know Sandal's prophecy kinda reminds me of the SHadowrun series. Where magic came back into the world and all of humanity changed as well as the land. Some became elves, some became trolls and ghouls etc.
I always thought he might have been a bit of a god baby myself being dumped there as a child and absorbing the soul by accident unlike Morrigans delibert absorption.

[bleetman]

Alternatively, he's just nuts, and babbles inane things. The heaps of dead darkspawn tripped and fell on loose flooring, accidentally-but-comically impaling themselves upon their own weapons.

No? No.

[Zinou]

wait a minute.........he's...........HE'S THE MAKER !

[Kinaori]

What I find most interesting is the 'everyone will be just like they were.'. I don't think Sandal is himself important, he's just a bit 'touched', childlike, and therefore a conduit; understands and sees things the rest of the jaded Thedans don't. Whatever he did to that ogre demonstrates he's in touch with something more primeval. That's my theory anyway.

But what does 'everyone will be just like they were' mean? I am undoubtedly overthinking it heh. But it's fun

What if it ties in to the struggles of mages? That Templars are holding the leash on greater powers than we imagined.

[OraVelnoria87]

Kinaori wrote...


But what does 'everyone will be just like they were' mean? I am undoubtedly overthinking it heh. But it's fun
 

I automatically assumed it meant everyone would be mages. Like the elves lost their magic... maybe once all humans had magic. Who knows maybe even the primevil dwarves had magic. O_o