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[Vhalkyrie]

I remember there was an option to make a deal with Flemeth to let her go, and lie to Morrigan that she was killed.  Did anyone do this?  If so, was the beginning sequences with Flemeth still exactly the same?

[Siduri]

I never killed Flemeth (I love her). Yes, the beginning sequences are exactly the same.

[ejoslin]

I had a few playthroughs where I didn't. I am kind of disappointed that it didn't make a difference. In fact, it creates a bit of a paradox -- if you didn't kill her, you have two Flemeths running around. But see, my warden figured, a life for a life.

Edit: gah, I need to proofread before posting!

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2011 - 08:06 .

[Fenn_]

I made a deal with her she saved my life after all and my Warden wanted to surprise Morrigan.

[Vhalkyrie]

ejoslin wrote...

I had a few playthroughs where I didn't. I am kind of disappointed that it didn't make a difference. In fact, it creates a bit of a paradox -- if you didn't kill her, you have two Flemeth's running around. But see, my warden figured, a life for a life.

That's what I'm thinking.  If the Warden didn't kill Flemeth, then why was she still hitching a ride in the amulet?  It still makes sense she would want to make an "insurance policy", but then why pop up in Sundermount through the amulet?

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 28 mars 2011 - 08:00 .

[DoNotIngest]

Much too early for the Warden to kill her when she makes the deal with Hawke, and the piece of her in the amulet is a part of her, with the rest of her left over in Ferelden being killed by your Warden (or if not, she just took a precaution). She basically tells you flat out she can be in multiple places, on Sundermount. Thought that was made pretty clear?

[Goldens]

Sure, one playthrough where Flemeth died and one where she didn't. I wanted to see what would be different. Nothing is different.

I might do a playthrough with this to give Fenris and Isabela away. Same reason, to see what's different. But I mostly expect the same result.

[tmp7704]

ejoslin wrote...

I had a few playthroughs where I didn't. I am kind of disappointed that it didn't make a difference. In fact, it creates a bit of a paradox -- if you didn't kill her, you have two Flemeth's running around. But see, my warden figured, a life for a life.

Yeah; i didn't kill Flemeth either so her "resurrection" bit was bit of "omg, so that's how she came back... wait a moment, she never went away in the first place" thing.

I'm explaining it to myself that just because my Warden didn't kill Flemeth doesn't mean she had to be alive at that point. It's bit of a stretch, though.

[MPSai]

I did, because I was like "****, Morrigan isn't worth dealing with a dragon"

As for the amulet thing I figured it was like "Well it was just a precaution, didn't need it, teleported here to tell you so". 

Modifié par MPSai, 28 mars 2011 - 08:04 .

[LastFadingSmile]

Vhalkyrie wrote...

That's what I'm thinking.  If the Warden didn't kill Flemeth, then why was she still hitching a ride in the amulet?  It still makes sense she would want to make an "insurance policy", but then why pop up in Sundermount through the amulet?

To mock Hawke about the fact that he/she could never be a dragon, obviously.

[Vhalkyrie]

Kolotosa wrote...

Vhalkyrie wrote...

That's what I'm thinking.  If the Warden didn't kill Flemeth, then why was she still hitching a ride in the amulet?  It still makes sense she would want to make an "insurance policy", but then why pop up in Sundermount through the amulet?

To mock Hawke about the fact that he/she could never be a dragon, obviously.

That's a very sensible answer.  LOL.  I'll take it.  Mystery, solved!

Modifié par Vhalkyrie, 28 mars 2011 - 08:07 .

[Trophonius]

There's no difference, but you always have this guilt in the back of your mind since she trusted you enough to reveal Flemeth's intentions for her. I imagine living your life with the sole purpose of being a vessel for someone must be sh*tty.

[Sylvanpyxie]

I liked Flemeth the moment she started talking in Origins so i only killed her on a single play-through to see the fight, let her live the rest of the time... Witch is Awesome, plus i didn't like Morrigan so i was game for her becoming a Meat Suit.

Modifié par Sylvanpyxie, 28 mars 2011 - 08:07 .

[XOGHunter246]

She bears nothing of use so I only killed her once to see what happens lol and to be honest I did not really want to do Morrigans dirty work. It is shame that it does not effect the meeting with her in DA2 but then again Flemeth could survive anything...

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 28 mars 2011 - 08:25 .

[Brockololly]

I could have sworn that pre-release Gaider made mention that how you dealt with Flemeth in DAO would be recognized in DA2. Kind of disappointing that its the same no matter what you did.

[shoggoth1890]

I just figured that something unknown killed her if the Warden didn't. It would explain it, but to leave out the details of what killed a being as powerful as Flemeth would be a big hand-wave on the part of the devs.

[Siduri]

Trophonius wrote...

There's no difference, but you always have this guilt in the back of your mind since she trusted you enough to reveal Flemeth's intentions for her. I imagine living your life with the sole purpose of being a vessel for someone must be sh*tty.

Flemeth says (or heavily implies) in DA:O that Morrigan is lying about that, in order to manipulate you into attacking Flemeth. I actually believe Flemeth over Morrigan. Flemeth saved my Warden's life, and my Warden wasn't going to repay her with murder.

So, no guilt here !

[Vhalkyrie]

Brockololly wrote...

I could have sworn that pre-release Gaider made mention that how you dealt with Flemeth in DAO would be recognized in DA2. Kind of disappointing that its the same no matter what you did.

This is probably one of the most disappointing things about DA2, for me.  At least in ME2, Ashley stayed dead, Anderson stayed Ambassador, and I was told the Arachni were still alive.  DA2 has way too many choices that were overridden, or not acknowledged properly.

[shoggoth1890]

But Conrad always thinks you pointed a gun at him

[Elessie]

It would be cool if it made a difference, but I don't think it needs to. The Flemeth on Sundermount says she is a fragment.

[Vhalkyrie]

shoggoth1890 wrote...

But Conrad always thinks you pointed a gun at him

I wouldn't have noticed that one, because I probably did. 

[Goldens]

shoggoth1890 wrote...

But Conrad always thinks you pointed a gun at him

Well, you always want to...

[Avilia]

Siduri wrote...

Trophonius wrote...

There's no difference, but you always have this guilt in the back of your mind since she trusted you enough to reveal Flemeth's intentions for her. I imagine living your life with the sole purpose of being a vessel for someone must be sh*tty.

Flemeth says (or heavily implies) in DA:O that Morrigan is lying about that, in order to manipulate you into attacking Flemeth. I actually believe Flemeth over Morrigan. Flemeth saved my Warden's life, and my Warden wasn't going to repay her with murder.

So, no guilt here !

^This


(Oooh that's my first 'this' post ever)

[Koffeegirl]

Brockololly wrote...

I could have sworn that pre-release Gaider made mention that how you dealt with Flemeth in DAO would be recognized in DA2. Kind of disappointing that its the same no matter what you did.

I remember this as well. It was way back though, when DA2 and Flemeth were first announced. I think it was in response to "How can Flemeth be alive if I killed in her Origins?" But he could of meant that it would be explained how she was still alive.....which DA2 does with the whole locket thing.
Still it would of been cool to have it recognized if the Warden let her live(although, I only did that in one playthough cause Morrigan and my Warden are good friends)

Edit:A cookie for anyone who dares go back to threads from the summer to find the post.)

Modifié par Koffeegirl, 28 mars 2011 - 08:42 .

[shoggoth1890]

Yeah, in ME2 I couldn't resist shooting him in the foot, even on my paragon characters.