My chaotic good rouge had to kill him, very bewildered by what he'd done in the name of his cause. She sided with the templars based on his actions and his relation to the mages, crazy as Meredith obviously was - since she would probably end up killing her eventually anyway. (First playthrough)
My chaotic good mage romanced him, but felt like a complete fool for allowing him to carry on with his madness - even if she probably couldn't do anything but make him more angry anyway. So, she had to support her man and screw all else, it wasn't like she had a family in Gamlen and her traitor Templar brother to stay for anyway - why not go on the run for mage's freedom?! Sebastian turned on her, but he was a choir baby anyway, no great loss. Killing Fenris sucked, but it wasn't like they got along anyway either. Happy ending for Vengeance and the woman he dragged into to mass murder. She did distract that old biddy after all.
My current lawful good warrior who is a bit of a hateful thing at times has every intention of cutting off Anders's head at the slightest provocation and has been very open about that fact. Either Anders is going to get his head right, or he's done.
It's been terribly interesting to play at the Anders relationship/problem/plot from different angles and think different things about him. I think, anyway.
What did you do to Anders?
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 12:57
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LOL I wish I could do that. I usually play 'in the moment' so I never know what i will do but unfortunately at that moment I'm so pissed off and after slaughtering my way through blood mages, apostates, templars, qunari and all other assorted crazies my "kill em all and let the Maker sort them out" is riding high.
I doubt I can ever put aside my anger to let him live.
I doubt I can ever put aside my anger to let him live.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 12:58
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Anders died at the end of Awakenings.
That monster in DA2 was nothing but a place to store my knife for a short time.
That monster in DA2 was nothing but a place to store my knife for a short time.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:12
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Dead, and he will always die in my game, even with a Hawke that romances him. That monster does not deserve to live.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:13
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Icinix wrote...
Anders died at the end of Awakenings.
That monster in DA2 was nothing but a place to store my knife for a short time.
So I take it you went the romance route, then.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:14
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I kill him every time... doesn't matter if I side with mages or templars, Anders is an abomination and cannot be spared. Even when I'm playing as an evil character who doesn't actually care about the destruction of the Chantry, having Anders around is a liability. You can't predict what he's going to do next... I can't work with somebody like that.
@ lazuli: lol... that's pretty good...
@ lazuli: lol... that's pretty good...
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:14
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Let him live. While I can't say "You created this world, you shall forever be doomed to live in it" I still don't kill him just hoping in DA3 or an expansion he'll probably start realizing the gravity of what he's done.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:17
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At first I killed him, but then I reloaded because I knew that I would need healing for the fight ahead (Nightmare). If I ever play Nightmare again I will download the mod that unlocks skill/specializations for all characters so I don't feel the need to drag Anders around when he should be pushing up daisies.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:20
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It hurt feelings i didn't even know I had, but the Anders I knew and loved in Awakening had been dead long before DA2. I had hope though, my snarky comments would get through to him sometimes, and i believed i could save him. but he fell to the unquenchable thirst of the Murderknife.
To paraphrase Obi-wan Kenobi, I have failed you, Anders. I have failed you...
To paraphrase Obi-wan Kenobi, I have failed you, Anders. I have failed you...
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:25
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I pretty much ignored him my first playthrough and then murderknifed him at the end.
This. Just give me the maps, Anders, and let me be on my way. Preferably far, far away from you.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:26
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This lol:crying:thurmanator692 wrote...
It hurt feelings i didn't even know I had, but the Anders I knew and loved in Awakening had been dead long before DA2. I had hope though, my snarky comments would get through to him sometimes, and i believed i could save him. but he fell to the unquenchable thirst of the Murderknife.
To paraphrase Obi-wan Kenobi, I have failed you, Anders. I have failed you...
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:34
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lazuli wrote...
Icinix wrote...
Anders died at the end of Awakenings.
That monster in DA2 was nothing but a place to store my knife for a short time.
So I take it you went the romance route, then.
LOL! Yeah fair call.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:37
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Spared him, and told him to come with me. If there was an option for giving him a medal, I would have taken that one. Or one for giving him more explosives. Or both. Next time, he should have just told me. We could have taken out the Chantry and the Knight-Commander's room. "Peace among us, war to tyrants!"
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:38
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I didn't kill him on the spot. I didn't want to Martyr him.
I did, however, tell him to GTFO. And he came back. And I told him there would be no more sandwiches. Because I am defending my HOME. Darnit. And he could just die on my pointy daggers for all I cared!
/crazyrant
I did, however, tell him to GTFO. And he came back. And I told him there would be no more sandwiches. Because I am defending my HOME. Darnit. And he could just die on my pointy daggers for all I cared!
/crazyrant
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:45
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Daewan wrote...
Spared him, and told him to come with me. If there was an option for giving him a medal, I would have taken that one. Or one for giving him more explosives. Or both. Next time, he should have just told me. We could have taken out the Chantry and the Knight-Commander's room. "Peace among us, war to tyrants!"
Anders exhibits a bit of complexity when you ask him why he didn't tell you. I'd have to paraphrase, but I believe he mentions how Hawke would either try to stop him or worse want to help. He doesn't think he's done a good deed in targeting innocents. He probably wouldn't want to stick around with your Hawke, no offense.
Oh, ick. I'm defending Anders.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:51
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Don't worry, i wont tell anyonelazuli wrote...
Daewan wrote...
Spared him, and told him to come with me. If there was an option for giving him a medal, I would have taken that one. Or one for giving him more explosives. Or both. Next time, he should have just told me. We could have taken out the Chantry and the Knight-Commander's room. "Peace among us, war to tyrants!"
Anders exhibits a bit of complexity when you ask him why he didn't tell you. I'd have to paraphrase, but I believe he mentions how Hawke would either try to stop him or worse want to help. He doesn't think he's done a good deed in targeting innocents. He probably wouldn't want to stick around with your Hawke, no offense.
Oh, ick. I'm defending Anders.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 01:51
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It's quite interesting, reading the different motivations actually. I somewhat feel "not killing anders" should have to involve something active (i.e protecting him from arrest). Of the four hawkes I played, three simply had other things (How do I get out of here / How do I get bethany out of the gallows) in mind, during that situation. Once the debris is cleared, and I'm certain I'm not going to be cut up by religious zealots, sure, I'll go have a serious talk with him, but punishing a crime with a cause, that doesn't actually hurt me, doesn't exactly strike me as top priority in that moment.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:00
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lazuli wrote...
Daewan wrote...
Spared him, and told him to come with me. If there was an option for giving him a medal, I would have taken that one. Or one for giving him more explosives. Or both. Next time, he should have just told me. We could have taken out the Chantry and the Knight-Commander's room. "Peace among us, war to tyrants!"
Anders exhibits a bit of complexity when you ask him why he didn't tell you. I'd have to paraphrase, but I believe he mentions how Hawke would either try to stop him or worse want to help. He doesn't think he's done a good deed in targeting innocents. He probably wouldn't want to stick around with your Hawke, no offense.
Oh, ick. I'm defending Anders.
If he had talked to me about it, and there had been the appropriate complex dialogue options available, I could have explained my stance to him better and helped him get over the brainwashed guilt for killing people who deserved to die.
Please note: There is no real-world analogue for this. I just hate the Chantry with an almost unspeakable passion. I have no pity for any of the sisters, priests, or faithful who died, because the entire Chantry is built on a system of sickening hypocrisy and suffering. Not just mages, but of elves as well, not to mention the lower classes in Orlais. I also haven't forgotten about the Chantry abandoning Lothering before the darkspawn came. The fall of the Chantry is the best thing that could possibly happen to Thedas, and it has been too long in coming.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:05
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My reaction to when Anders blew up the Chantry. My only regret in not helping him enough. Always spare Anders and laugh at all those who miss his possible role. You're all a........
FANTASTIC GROUP AND LAUGH RIOT
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:07
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I killed him.I would of done it early for a murder of a innocent but couldn't.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:09
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Killed him.
Then sided with the templars.
Then sided with the templars.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:14
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I'm seriously thinking of sparing him next time but telling him to GTFO and then siding with the Templars so I can actually kill him in the fight. Plus seeing Sebastian's rant ought to be worth a few chuckles too.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:21
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Daewan wrote...
Please note: There is no real-world analogue for this. I just hate the Chantry with an almost unspeakable passion. I have no pity for any of the sisters, priests, or faithful who died, because the entire Chantry is built on a system of sickening hypocrisy and suffering. Not just mages, but of elves as well, not to mention the lower classes in Orlais. I also haven't forgotten about the Chantry abandoning Lothering before the darkspawn came. The fall of the Chantry is the best thing that could possibly happen to Thedas, and it has been too long in coming.
Seconded. If Petrice's exploitation of qunari exiles is anything to go by, it's that the Chantry is a sordid institution that will go through immeasurable lengths to further its cause, even if it means to resort to forbidden magic (which it fundamentally preaches against). Anders taking the initiative was deserved in that sense. Of course, I'm not holding him completely unaccountable, but to defend the Chantry's innocence is superfluous.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:36
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On the first playthrough (pro-mages, non-romance), my Hawke was thinking:
"Really, Anders? Really? I'm wondering how I'm going to straighten this out with the citizenry, after I kill almost every templar in Kirkwall no less, and you had to go and do something goofy like that... At least go put that Sister back together before she's beyond repair. I--wha--? Carver, go home. Just go home. Honestly, I can't leave you alone for a minute...WILL YOU BE QUIET SEBASTIAN!! This day just CANNOT get any wors--OH, COME ON ORSINO!!........Isabela, where's the boat?"
So yeah, spared. No question.
"Really, Anders? Really? I'm wondering how I'm going to straighten this out with the citizenry, after I kill almost every templar in Kirkwall no less, and you had to go and do something goofy like that... At least go put that Sister back together before she's beyond repair. I--wha--? Carver, go home. Just go home. Honestly, I can't leave you alone for a minute...WILL YOU BE QUIET SEBASTIAN!! This day just CANNOT get any wors--OH, COME ON ORSINO!!........Isabela, where's the boat?"
So yeah, spared. No question.
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Posté 29 mars 2011 - 02:36
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Trophonius wrote...
If Petrice's exploitation of qunari exiles is anything to go by, it's that the Chantry is a sordid institution that will go through immeasurable lengths to further its cause, even if it means to resort to forbidden magic (which it fundamentally preaches against). Anders taking the initiative was deserved in that sense. Of course, I'm not holding him completely unaccountable, but to defend the Chantry's innocence is superfluous.
I hesitate to blame entire institutions, groups, religions, etc. for the actions of a few zealots. You're using "Templar logic." Well, the Templars might actually make more sense here because basically every mage in DA2 is a Blood Mage or an abomination. Except Bethany.
