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[AlexXIV]

We'll see. If they release DA3 next year we can assume that it is only going to be worse.

[LightningSamus]

[AkiKishi]

Asperius wrote...

Ain't it too early to sing doom and gloom for Dragon Age titles? Game is so new. We even don't have Builder/DLC/Expansions, heck even not a serious patch this far.

It can be unimpressive for a Bioware title but surely it is way much better than the Awakenings or NWN: SotU.

My biggest fear is Bioware will drop Dragon Age titles on another company, especially Obsidian. They don't have slightest clue what a Bioware RPG is.

I am loving Dragon Age universe and there are many stories I want to hear/play.

So waiting in following order: DA 2 Toolset - DLCs covering lost years (the ones game skipped) - DA 2 Expansion/s then it will be right time for DA3.

That could be a best case scenario. You do know those guys are BlackIsle from BG/BGII etc right?

They are doing Dungeon Siege 3 right now , total hack and slash. But have paid great attention to the characters, the story and also given it multi outcomes depending on what you do.
It's still a hack and slash, but it goes above and beyond for that particulr genre.

Their work on NV and Alpha Protocol outside of the bug issues was also very good. Following DA and DA2 , Bioware can't really call its self a great example of Q&A.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 29 mars 2011 - 01:09 .

[The Angry One]

Pft, Origin and Westwood had it lucky. At least they got to die and not become a pitiable shadow of itself like Maxis.
What fate awaits BioWare? We shall see.

Their work on NV and Alpha Protocol outside of the bug issues was also
very good. Following DA and DA2 , Bioware can't really call its self a
great example of Q&A.

Oh please I've seen the combat AI in AP, bug issues are hardly the only problem.
And that's a game where you have no gender choice because "We dun have resources lol!" (yes, that was their excuse). Riiight.

Modifié par The Angry One, 29 mars 2011 - 01:12 .

[Frybread76]

Yes, we will get a DA3, even though DA2 will not sell as well as DA:O. But if DA3 goes in the same direction as DA2 don't expect any DLC or a DA4.

[astreqwerty]

i highly doubt that the franchise will survive this disaster(and im talking mostly about the finanical failure)..given also the fact that bioware is developing one of the most promising failures of all time(the old republic) i think they themselves also have slim chances of survival

about swtor:i dont think the game will bomb but if EA really invested 200.000.000 bucks on it then im really worried about whetehr theyll meet their target..and it definetely wont dethrone wow

[Montana]

LightningSamus wrote...

What Sten said.

Even though DA2 might not be universally acclaimed and may not outsell DAO, I think it will still make money enough to warrant a third installment.

BioWare's got a good thing going with the DA-series, even though they might have missed the mark with DA2. Hopefully they'll correct that with DA3 and the franchise will be back on track again.
And since DA2 basically ends with "To be continued" or "To be concluded", DA3 is already in the works (at some stage).

At least that is what I'm hoping for.

[AkiKishi]

The Angry One wrote...

Pft, Origin and Westwood had it lucky. At least they got to die and not become a pitiable shadow of itself like Maxis.
What fate awaits BioWare? We shall see.

Their work on NV and Alpha Protocol outside of the bug issues was also
very good. Following DA and DA2 , Bioware can't really call its self a
great example of Q&A.

Oh please I've seen the combat AI in AP, bug issues are hardly the only problem.
And that's a game where you have no gender choice because "We dun have resources lol!" (yes, that was their excuse). Riiight.

I should have been more specific . I'm only refering to the "roleplaying" stuff here. I'm not going to hold up AP as anything other than an outdated combat engine.

[The Angry One]

BobSmith101 wrote...

I should have been more specific . I'm only refering to the "roleplaying" stuff here. I'm not going to hold up AP as anything other than an outdated combat engine.

This is third hand information because if Obsidian don't have the resources to let me play my gender then I don't have the resources to give them any money, but isn't RP in AP limited to being a jerk? 
At least that's what everyone has told me.

[AkiKishi]

The Angry One wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

I should have been more specific . I'm only refering to the "roleplaying" stuff here. I'm not going to hold up AP as anything other than an outdated combat engine.

This is third hand information because if Obsidian don't have the resources to let me play my gender then I don't have the resources to give them any money, but isn't RP in AP limited to being a jerk? 
At least that's what everyone has told me.

Maybe because I'm the majority or something. But playing as Yuna,Rikku and Paine in FFX-2 was fine.If playing as your own gender is that important to you, then our views will be quite different.

You can be a jerk, but you don't have to be one. Relationships are very important in how AP plays out. Who lives ,who dies, who you betray and who you keep on side. All make a difference.

[The Angry One]

BobSmith101 wrote...

Maybe because I'm the majority or something. But playing as Yuna,Rikku and Paine in FFX-2 was fine.If playing as your own gender is that important to you, then our views will be quite different.

It's important when the developers say "Well we would've done it, but we didn't feel like it because hard work is hard.".

You can be a jerk, but you don't have to be one. Relationships are very important in how AP plays out. Who lives ,who dies, who you betray and who you keep on side. All make a difference.

Which is obstinsibly the same in DA2 or ME2.

[AkiKishi]

[quote]The Angry One wrote...

It's important when the developers say "Well we would've done it, but we didn't feel like it because hard work is hard.".

[/quote]

Which is obstinsibly the same in DA2 or ME2.

[/quote]

Their actions, their consequences.

Not really the same, it's about how the different factions relate to you rather than individuals. In DA2 things play out the same way regardless. How you treat individuals has consequences with related factions in Alpha Protocol.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 29 mars 2011 - 01:37 .

[MonkeyLungs]

I don't think this will be the last, although I wouldn't be sad if it was.

Bioware released an extremely buggy game. Controversy about the 'evolution' aside ... the game is filled with horrible bugs.

Further they hustles the console community by telling us Auto-Attack was IN GAME when it very clearly isn't, and wasn't.

I've been a fan of Bioware fo a long time but at this point after ME3 comes out I don't care if SW:TOR tanks drains Bioware's bank account and causes a full shutdown of Bioware.

They flat out lied about a simple feature and continue to ignore their console fanbase by not providing patches and support. If developers can't support their games I would rather they didn't make games at all.

[CaimDark]

No. Dragon Age is a valuable property, and I'm pretty sure EA intends to keep it in its library for as long as they can (meaning that as long as it it is not destroyed Guitar Hero style, we'll see more games). Even the incredible hate on this forum is further evidence of DA's value. People don't hate what they don't care about, and I'd wager many of the most hysterical haters on this forum will still buy the next DA.

[cotheer]

Skyforc3 wrote...

If they don't learn anything from da2 i hope it is.

This.

On the other hand there is a giant life-leeching parasite *cough*EA*cough* which will probably drain the studio to the point where DA becomes a racing game with darkspawns, before they dump it and find a new host to invade.

Modifié par cotheer, 29 mars 2011 - 02:44 .

[1000questions]

DA:Origins has set a very strong foundation and I just hope DA2 doesnt prove to be such a disaster to pull DA franchise out of business.
Those who think DA2 will out sell DA:O they hoping for a miracle ( well I know miracles happen but will it be the case for DA2 ? )

It is over 3 weeks and DA2 hasnt reached 1 Million mark all platforms combined. Check the vgcharts, other websites for sales figures etc ... Moreover if DA2 had sold over 1 Million copies EA/Bioware would be roaring and flashing on the face of critics who think DA2 is not upto the mark.

BottomLine : DA2 is not a hit nor selling like a wildfire. Does it prove to be a profitable venture for EA .... it may prove it but that will have alot to do with DA:O success and pre-orders not its own merit

[AkiKishi]

1000questions wrote...

DA:Origins has set a very strong foundation and I just hope DA2 doesnt prove to be such a disaster to pull DA franchise out of business.
Those who think DA2 will out sell DA:O they hoping for a miracle ( well I know miracles happen but will it be the case for DA2 ? )

It is over 3 weeks and DA2 hasnt reached 1 Million mark all platforms combined. Check the vgcharts, other websites for sales figures etc ... Moreover if DA2 had sold over 1 Million copies EA/Bioware would be roaring and flashing on the face of critics who think DA2 is not upto the mark.

BottomLine : DA2 is not a hit nor selling like a wildfire. Does it prove to be a profitable venture for EA .... it may prove it but that will have alot to do with DA:O success and pre-orders not its own merit

Are you sure ? It was up around 700k week 1 with pre-orders included. That's a serious drop off if that is the case.

If it had done it in the first week maybe. Nothing really special unless it's in 1 week , it just sort of looks desparate.

[cotheer]

It's pretty close to 1mil, ~920K across all platforms, according to vgchartz.

[OurSacrifice]

Mike Laidlaw has a lot more failure lined up for this series that he is so enjoying butchering. Don't worry, there's more Dragon Effect on the way.

[JabbaDaHutt30]

Hatchetman77 wrote...

That all depends on how well The Old Republic does.  If it tanks you may as well say goodbye to BioWare.

if it's actually good, it won't tank. but if there's anyone that'll have the final say in giving bioware the boot, it will be EA.

[AkiKishi]

cotheer wrote...

It's pretty close to 1mil, ~920K across all platforms, according to vgchartz.

"Fire Sales" will probably push it over then. But won't do long term numbers much good.

[Warheadz]

Why did they even start making TOR? Everyone knows that you don't compete with WoW unless you are ready to lose.

If TOR takes Dragon Age from me (Yes, entitlement is strong in me), I'm going to be so disappointed. Of course if DA3 is more of DA2 then it doesn't matter.

[Romantiq]

Hopefully not. But they better learn from their mistakes or it will be.

[MonkeyLungs]

I'm looking forward to the massive wtf-storm when TOR launches and customers have to really get a taste of how Bioware handles customer support. They can barely support their current games, patches are very difficult for them and they seem to be exponentially increasing the bugginess of their games.

MMORPG launches can be a seriously trying time for any developer (even teams that have release MMO's before). Bioware seem amazingly ill equipped to provide support for such a title.

[AkiKishi]

Warheadz wrote...

Why did they even start making TOR? Everyone knows that you don't compete with WoW unless you are ready to lose.

If TOR takes Dragon Age from me (Yes, entitlement is strong in me), I'm going to be so disappointed. Of course if DA3 is more of DA2 then it doesn't matter.

When they came up with the idea WoW was in a bit of a slump I think. Probably figured that WoW would play itself out by the time TOR came around.

TOR seems to be eating up money like a hungry monster. The problem is when you have people who have played WoW for so long you get a lot of people signing up out of curiosity getting "homesick" and going back to what they know.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 29 mars 2011 - 03:12 .