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[Romantiq]

I just hope I won't see more of that annoying religious bull**** called Leliana ever again.

[AngelicMachinery]

Aww, religion in a fantasy game! That's like, totally strange.

[Kohaku]

I wouldn't be surprised if she's not in the next game (if we even get one). Why dangle her in a plot specific quest and at the end like she has some purpose if not to use her somewhere else?

Edit: And to unkill her. Lets not forget that.

Modifié par Kerridan Kaiba, 29 mars 2011 - 07:12 .

[Romantiq]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...

I wouldn't be surprised if she's not in the next game (if we even get one). Why dangle her in a plot specific quest and at the end like she has some purpose if not to use her somewhere else?

idk..she did say "There is more for me to do in this world"  <_<

I hope there will be an option to side against her and grant her a painful 2nd beheading in DA3 :devil:

[Altima Darkspells]

Odds are DA3 is already in development. Wouldn't be surprised if it were a completely new engine that would better support the things that are important to EA.

Like DLC.

And bad multiplayer.

Heck, DAO alone probably sold well enough to fund DA2 and DA3, given how half-assed DA2 was.

[randName]

They did the same in BG2, but at least you could leave both Minsc and Jaheria in their cells, or kill them outright if you wanted to; Imoen was a larger issue, but at least you only had to see her in a few cut scenes, and then at the asylum if she died in BG1.

So if Leliana is a small small part of DA3 I'm fine with it, or if we can kill her early on ~ but I fear they will drag DA further down in the dirt and ruin the game completely.

[Kohaku]

@Romantiq - Oh we're going to see her. Along with more of Morrigan. Oh goody.

@Altima Darkspells - I get that feeling as well. Hell, after reading some of Mike Laidlaw's interview I have a feeling they were starting production on something else.

From the GS Final Thoughts:

GS: Were there any features that you simply didn't have time to implement or any features that would be best preserved for the next Dragon Age game?

ML: There always are. A number of them are set aside briefly to be explored later. What I really understand about Dragon Age II is that we retooled a lot of the game and set ourselves up for a greater challenge by trying to retool it--combat falls into this case--in a lot of fundamental ways while still trying to capture the same feel. <snip>

[rubydog1]

randName wrote...

They did the same in BG2, but at least you could leave both Minsc and Jaheria in their cells, or kill them outright if you wanted to; Imoen was a larger issue, but at least you only had to see her in a few cut scenes, and then at the asylum if she died in BG1. 

They did it in Neverwinter Nights, too, with Aribeth.

You can kill her in combat outright toward the end of the game, or you can convince her to submit to Lord Nasher for punishment. Either way, she's dead before the Hordes of the Underdark expansion only to be brought back into the story as a spirit lost in Hell. You can even romance her as a ghost despite possibly having made her a ghost in the first place. She apparently holds less of a grudge over you killing her than she did over the death of her ex-fiancee Fenthick, which led her to betray Neverwinter in the first place.

[cotheer]

Ok, i really thought the Leliana dialog thing was a joke, but WTF O_O"
"Maker knew it wasn't my time", how idiotic, cheesy, senseless... can it get.

Again, O_O

[Alex Kershaw]

I expect a third game but I would be surprised if Mike Laidlaw is still in the lead role by that point. Making a game of the size of DA2 is not a small thing for a company and DA2 was obviously a failure. I think they'll ask him to step down from that position.

[DarthBakura]

No, and I look forward to Dragon Age III.

That said, I do hope they fix and fine-tune the game as much as humanly possible next time. Reused dungeons and glitched quests can be a bummer at times. See through hair and no equipable companion armor, barring asthetics, kinda sucks too. However, the latter are minor worries, which I'm sure will be resolved in the next sequel.

Modifié par DarthBakura, 29 mars 2011 - 08:14 .

[thermalware]

I can't say I'm looking forward to DA3. Definately won't be a must by like I planned and waited for DA2. My next one is ME3.. we'll see how that one goes

[Persephone]

No, I do not think so, based on what the Devs said. And I'm glad of it too.

[Phonantiphon]

Well you don't deserve any more. But I hope that you whiners don't spoil for those of us who do like it and want more.
I don't think many of you even know why you don't like, in fact I'm not many of you even actually *have* an opinion of your about it.
Bandwagonesque, is what much of the content of this forum is now.
It's like a massive kindergarten full of spoilt children.
Actually no, that's insulting to children.

[DarthBakura]

Persephone wrote...

No, I do not think so, based on what the Devs said. And I'm glad of it too.

What do you mean? What did the Devs say? I missed something.

[cotheer]

bassmunkee wrote...

Well you don't deserve any more. But I hope that you whiners don't spoil for those of us who do like it and want more.
I don't think many of you even know why you don't like, in fact I'm not many of you even actually *have* an opinion of your about it.
Bandwagonesque, is what much of the content of this forum is now.
It's like a massive kindergarten full of spoilt children.
Actually no, that's insulting to children.

So what do you suggest, as an expert in the field, for us, the tortured souls of hate:
1) Ass kissing
2) Plain denying
3) or simple sucking up to devs for the sake of it.

Im curious.

[Vicious]

No, but I won't be surprised if they abandon the franchise in favor of TOR like Blizzard abandoned pretty much everything for years in favor of WoW.

[Altima Darkspells]

rubydog1 wrote...

You can even romance her as a ghost despite possibly having made her a ghost in the first place. She apparently holds less of a grudge over you killing her than she did over the death of her ex-fiancee Fenthick, which led her to betray Neverwinter in the first place.

The PC in Hordes of the Underdark is the same one as the one in Shadows of Undrentide, not the Original Campaign.

So there is no way your character could have stabbity death'd Aribeth, considering that at the time she was getting eviscerated, the HotU/SoU PC was getting stoned.

[Phonantiphon]

cotheer wrote...

bassmunkee wrote...

Well you don't deserve any more. But I hope that you whiners don't spoil for those of us who do like it and want more.
I don't think many of you even know why you don't like, in fact I'm not many of you even actually *have* an opinion of your about it.
Bandwagonesque, is what much of the content of this forum is now.
It's like a massive kindergarten full of spoilt children.
Actually no, that's insulting to children.

So what do you suggest, as an expert in the field, for us, the tortured souls of hate:
1) Ass kissing
2) Plain denying
3) or simple sucking up to devs for the sake of it.

Im curious.

Thank you, and since you ask my opinion Oh Neophyte, I shall expound forth some answers:

1. It's quite nice, but only if you shower first as the claggy bits tend to get stuck between the teeth
2. I never said anything at all
3. mmmmfffghh mmm mmm hmmm mmffggg

bi-curious?

[Romantiq]

rubydog1 wrote...

randName wrote...

They did the same in BG2, but at least you could leave both Minsc and Jaheria in their cells, or kill them outright if you wanted to; Imoen was a larger issue, but at least you only had to see her in a few cut scenes, and then at the asylum if she died in BG1. 

They did it in Neverwinter Nights, too, with Aribeth.

You can kill her in combat outright toward the end of the game, or you can convince her to submit to Lord Nasher for punishment. Either way, she's dead before the Hordes of the Underdark expansion only to be brought back into the story as a spirit lost in Hell. You can even romance her as a ghost despite possibly having made her a ghost in the first place. She apparently holds less of a grudge over you killing her than she did over the death of her ex-fiancee Fenthick, which led her to betray Neverwinter in the first place.

That made a lot more sense though. It was made clear that she is dead and her spirit is just wondering in Cania.

Did Leliana grow a new head or something?

Modifié par Romantiq, 29 mars 2011 - 10:05 .

[Vicious]

Did Leliana grow a new head or something?

Bioware says 'there is no canon.'

lol... right. I can't seem to find the in game dialogue where Leliana says 'the Warden killed me brutally but Andraste's ashes brought me back to life."

Modifié par Vicious, 29 mars 2011 - 10:11 .

[MrTijger]

Vicious wrote...

Did Leliana grow a new head or something?

Bioware says 'there is no canon.'

lol... right. I can't seem to find the in game dialogue where Leliana says 'the Warden killed me brutally but Andraste's ashes brought me back to life."

Amazing that you know this considering David Gaider conceived and wrote Dragon Age. If he says there is no canon then there is no canon, its as simple as that.

Besides, losers who need a canon...oh man, its beyond sad.

[Kandid001]

As far as I'm concerned, Awakening was.

[rubydog1]

Altima Darkspells wrote...

The PC in Hordes of the Underdark is the same one as the one in Shadows of Undrentide, not the Original Campaign.

So there is no way your character could have stabbity death'd Aribeth, considering that at the time she was getting eviscerated, the HotU/SoU PC was getting stoned.

Because they gave me the option to do so and the expansion was aimed at higher-level toons, I ran it with my OC toon. With all of the nods to the OC, the story really doesn't make it that hard to insert an OC character into it.

It was harder to wrap my brain around how I can save a city but can't manage to secure my own hotel room and not be stripped of all my belongings at the beginning of the expansion.

Romantiq wrote...

That made a lot more sense though. It was made clear that she is dead and her spirit is just wondering in Cania.
Did Leliana grow a new head or something?

Considering you could let Anders die in Awakenings and he's back from the dead in DA2 bonded to Justice, who was shown to be capable of inhabiting corpses in Awakenings, why is it hard to accept that weird crap can and does happen in the world of Dragon Age?

Modifié par rubydog1, 29 mars 2011 - 10:34 .