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Who here thinks Mordin Solus or Thane Krios will not be in Mass Effect 3?


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Of all the squadmates, I think Kasumi and Zaeed have the least chance of returning. Although, they probably will. Mordin's a fan favourite and still pretty spry for an old guy so I think he's safe. Thane's disease is deliberately left unresolved so I think it's pretty clear that they have plans for him too.

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Thane HAS to return in some form since he's an LI, though the encounter may be short. Mordin is just too awesome not to see again.

Will they be back as squadmates? No idea, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

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SPOILER ALERT !

READ ONLY IF YOU'VE BEATEN MASS EFFECT 1 AND 2!



I'm going to say it AGAIN. STOP READING if you've NOT beaten BOTH Mass Effect 1 AND 2. 

I don't want to ruin the experience for someone. I really hope I'm not breaking the rules here, lol. Anyway, back to the point.


But think about it, all your teammates from Mass Effect 2 CAN die during the suicide mission. Do you really think that BioWare will use their resources for new voice lines? For characters that may not even be in-game? For the people who lost their crew members and then imported their Mass Effect 2 content? Not everyone gets the same end you know. It's all a little mixed up.

If Thane doesn't die from his disease, there still might be a chance that he won't have a huge role in ME3.

Unfortunately, I think the entire crew will be replaced with new squad mates. If the old members are to be starred in the upcoming sequel, they'll most likely going to be the "non-combat" mates. In Mass Effect 1, your entire crew couldn't die. Sure, you could Kill Wrex, and you will have to choose betweeen Ashley and Kaiden. But the others couldn't die during a suicide mission. (Liara, for example.)

You could kill Wrex on the Virmire mission (At least I think it was Virmire, please correct me if I'm wrong.) I also think that's why he is now no longer a member of the crew. Because BioWare wouldn't bother recording so many voicelines for him if he wasn't even going to be in the game for some players.

At least that's what I think =P

I really hope Thane shows up though. Garrus and Thane are my favorite characters. At least Garrus, since he has been your loyal "bro" ever since Mass Effect 1.

Modifié par Ole Shepard, 30 mars 2011 - 12:27 .


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I hope they are. Especially Mordin. I'm not sure how popular Mordin is, but he is one of my favorites. Had many a chat with Mordin...a good fellow...nerdy, but brings energy to my team

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Ole Shepard wrote...

In Mass Effect 1, your entire crew couldn't die. Sure, you could Kill Wrex, and you will have to choose betweeen Ashley and Kaiden. But the others couldn't die during a suicide mission. (Liara, for example.)

You could kill Wrex on the Virmire mission (At least I think it was Virmire, please correct me if I'm wrong.) I also think that's why he is now no longer a member of the crew. Because BioWare wouldn't bother recording so many voicelines for him if he wasn't even going to be in the game for some players.

At least that's what I think =P


While it's possible to get your entire crew killed in ME2, I think the majority of Mass Effect fans like myself would have replayed the ending and done it properly (if only to get the achievement) so I think realistically the only people who would definitely be dead are Ashley or Kaidan.  I know when I managed to get Tali, Mordin and Grunt killed in the suicide mission I realised I'd bumped off half my favourite characters so did the end again and you wouldn't believe how many times I had to attempt to get Wrex killed by my xenophobic Shepard.

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I don't hate Thane, I actually like him in fact, but it will be a massive asspull if they were to come up with a cure in third game. Between him finding peace with his life, choosing to spend his last moments doing good deeds and possibly entering romance with Shep, it would totally go against his story to suddenly cure him so he can live happily ever after.

It'd be like Shepard being able to seduce Samara despite the fact that she completely rejected that aspect of her life.

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double post.... sorry.

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Modifié par MissFish, 30 mars 2011 - 02:25 .


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I think Thane will be dead, but Mordin I think is another matter...


If you want to be spoiled watch this , it's a slow downed version of a vision Shep has in Arrival. Your answers can be seen from 1:05 on.

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I can see Mordin taking a none cobat role in ME3, much like Joker. I do think Than will be dead, or pretty much on death's doorstep by time ME3 starts.


This.


I never really liked either of them. Mordin was to much like a hamster on coffe (to quote Kelly). Thane was to lizardish for my liking.

That said, if Bioware pulls the magic cure trick, im writing a strongly worded hate letter.

Modifié par MissFish, 30 mars 2011 - 02:25 .


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Jayelle Janson wrote...

Ole Shepard wrote...

In Mass Effect 1, your entire crew couldn't die. Sure, you could Kill Wrex, and you will have to choose betweeen Ashley and Kaiden. But the others couldn't die during a suicide mission. (Liara, for example.)

You could kill Wrex on the Virmire mission (At least I think it was Virmire, please correct me if I'm wrong.) I also think that's why he is now no longer a member of the crew. Because BioWare wouldn't bother recording so many voicelines for him if he wasn't even going to be in the game for some players.

At least that's what I think =P


While it's possible to get your entire crew killed in ME2, I think the majority of Mass Effect fans like myself would have replayed the ending and done it properly (if only to get the achievement) so I think realistically the only people who would definitely be dead are Ashley or Kaidan.  I know when I managed to get Tali, Mordin and Grunt killed in the suicide mission I realised I'd bumped off half my favourite characters so did the end again and you wouldn't believe how many times I had to attempt to get Wrex killed by my xenophobic Shepard.


Not all players have the patience nor the knowledge to realize that re-playing a spesific mission will change the sequels dramatically. Not ALL of them. I think BioWare realizes that too.

I can see your point of view though. I got Jack killed during the collector ship, lol. (Didn't have the renegade nor the paragon points to itimidate or charm her afterwards, as I chose Miranda so she was never loyal :( )

And another issue I had was that I saved when I was done with the suicide mission, so I freaking lost my mission save  >_<

So there is no way I can revive Jack unless I completely re-run the whole thing.

Speaking of Wrex though, I acctually killed him on Virmire the first time I was there. But since he is one of my favorite squadmates, I reloaded the game and decided to itimidate him instead. (Didn't realize I could before I killed him, lol.)

But as mentioned, I really hope we all get to see both Garrus, Thane and the other classic squad mates. Not that Thane is classic though.

If you ask me, this is my "Mass Effect 3 dream squad":

Garrus
Thane
Tali
Liara
Wrex (Or Grunt, doesn't really matter as long as it is a Krogan.)
Mordin
Ashley / Kaidan

Additional characters:

Anderson (Depends if the council is dead or not o_o)
Joker.



And of course, Shepard :> 

Tell me, was this thread a little nerdy? Lol

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Ole Shepard wrote...

SPOILER ALERT !

READ ONLY IF YOU'VE BEATEN MASS EFFECT 1 AND 2!



I'm going to say it AGAIN. STOP READING if you've NOT beaten BOTH Mass Effect 1 AND 2. 

I don't want to ruin the experience for someone. I really hope I'm not breaking the rules here, lol. Anyway, back to the point.


But think about it, all your teammates from Mass Effect 2 CAN die during the suicide mission. Do you really think that BioWare will use their resources for new voice lines? For characters that may not even be in-game? For the people who lost their crew members and then imported their Mass Effect 2 content? Not everyone gets the same end you know. It's all a little mixed up.

If Thane doesn't die from his disease, there still might be a chance that he won't have a huge role in ME3.

Unfortunately, I think the entire crew will be replaced with new squad mates. If the old members are to be starred in the upcoming sequel, they'll most likely going to be the "non-combat" mates. In Mass Effect 1, your entire crew couldn't die. Sure, you could Kill Wrex, and you will have to choose betweeen Ashley and Kaiden. But the others couldn't die during a suicide mission. (Liara, for example.)

You could kill Wrex on the Virmire mission (At least I think it was Virmire, please correct me if I'm wrong.) I also think that's why he is now no longer a member of the crew. Because BioWare wouldn't bother recording so many voicelines for him if he wasn't even going to be in the game for some players.

At least that's what I think =P

I really hope Thane shows up though. Garrus and Thane are my favorite characters. At least Garrus, since he has been your loyal "bro" ever since Mass Effect 1.



Hmm, how about bringing back old squadmates on a temporary basis, like say, for one or two missions.  It would use less voicelines resources, and could be a decent compromise between a cameo/non-combat role, and a fully voiced permanent squadmate.

For example, if Mordin didn't die during the SM, then at some point during ME3, you could take him along on one mission.

Of course, this isn't a suggestion as I'm sure the game is pretty much done by now. 

Just some idle speculation.:)

Modifié par Mick301981, 30 mars 2011 - 04:42 .


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I won't be getting Mordin back because that **** died in the SM.

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it would be a shame for Mordin not to come back. i hope both of them come back for one final battle.

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I really hope there is no new crew mates, the further development of garrus and tali was awesome in me2. This is a rare opportunity to go beyond the bioware standard of a couple of conversations then sex dynamic at least in the case of Li, I really want more character development; hopefully forward looking too ie. their hopes, dreams, fears of the end of the galaxy, marriage, house building and even family.

Default cannon will have a lot of people alive and anyone that went out of there way to get people killed cause face it you have to try to get them killed can go jump for all I care, the will still have liara, 1 squadie from me2 and VS at least.

Isnt there a quote/rumor making the rounds that players that got most killed will have a hard time in me3?

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Why would BioWare waste resources to create new squadmates when we just spent virtually all of ME2 building a team? Seriously. That was the primary objective of the game. The whole "let's go blow up some Collectors" thing was a very small part; important, but small.

Secondly, BioWare writers love the characters they create as much as we do. Excepting poor Jacob, there's a huge fanbase for every character in ME. You may not like Mordin. You may not like Thane. But many, many other people do, and that all boosts the chances of them returning. That, and LIs will more than likely take priority.

The only way I don't see a character returning in some form is if the VA suddenly decides... they don't want to do it anymore. In that case, boom. New squadmate. Or if somebody dies on the suicide mission, I suppose. 

Modifié par ravenimage, 30 mars 2011 - 04:01 .


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PrinceLionheart wrote...

I don't hate Thane, I actually like him in fact, but it will be a massive asspull if they were to come up with a cure in third game. Between him finding peace with his life, choosing to spend his last moments doing good deeds and possibly entering romance with Shep, it would totally go against his story to suddenly cure him so he can live happily ever after.

It'd be like Shepard being able to seduce Samara despite the fact that she completely rejected that aspect of her life.


Yes I  agree. BW can make a cure for his disease but Thane is too far along to benefit. It's like the whole cure for cancer even if they figured it out tomorrow they have to make the drug in big quantities and those are too far along won't be able to use the drug made various reasons spring to mind the health of the patient maynot be able to take it and so forth Thane would be one of those people. It would however help stop or reverse cases caught early say like if Thane's son ended up getting that syndrome then he could take the meds and get better.

I also agree with Samara she should stay one of the rare won't accept sheps advances even if shep tries again in ME3.

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ravenimage wrote...

Why would BioWare waste resources to create new squadmates when we just spent virtually all of ME2 building a team? Seriously. That was the primary objective of the game. The whole "let's go blow up some Collectors" thing was a very small part; important, but small.

Secondly, BioWare writers love the characters they create as much as we do. Excepting poor Jacob, there's a huge fanbase for every character in ME. You may not like Mordin. You may not like Thane. But many, many other people do, and that all boosts the chances of them returning. That, and LIs will more than likely take priority.

The only way I don't see a character returning in some form is if the VA suddenly decides... they don't want to do it anymore. In that case, boom. New squadmate. Or if somebody dies on the suicide mission, I suppose. 


I don't think they will make replacements for the squad mates that dies on the Suicide mission. Especially if it is only for spesific players (The ones who lost members)

If that's what you're talking about

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marshalleck wrote...

Mordin will because he's a fan favorite, but nobody likes Thane so he'll probably crawl off and die somewhere off camera.

You have to be kidding me..

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Mordin would be a real loss... his character is so interesting, his past (loyalty mission) has huge repercussions on the future of the Krogan... one of the most unique and interesting characters Shep has met.

Thane, meh... wouldn't miss him. Hard to feel empathy for someone with such insane beliefs (I don't kill people... only my guns kill people... oooookaaay then... backing away slowly from the crazy fella now..). Frankly didn't want the damn lunatic on my squad in the first place.

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Ole Shepard

I don't think they will make replacements for the squad mates that dies on the Suicide mission. Especially if it is only for spesific players (The ones who lost members)
If that's what you're talking about


It's more of an observation, I guess. A pale observation. I don't think they will make replacements either. At least from my angle it doesn't make sense, but who knows? BioWare will do what they do and it usually turns out great either way.

Stenis17 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Mordin will because he's a fan favorite, but nobody likes Thane so he'll probably crawl off and die somewhere off camera.


You have to be kidding me..


At least he used correct grammar? :blink:

Modifié par ravenimage, 30 mars 2011 - 05:33 .


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You might not use Mordin much but I take Mordin to Horizon, Korlus and the Collector Ship practically every-time for his insight. Also I find Incinerate very useful, particularly on Tuchanka.

But having said that as long as Mordin is on the Normandy and has a load of dialogue and involvement in the story I will be happy and only then would I not mind if they added a new engineer squad-mate to the team to replace him in the field with tons of health and maybe a tech shield... Mordin could then become a full-time researcher/doctor on the Normandy and put his skills to better use.

Thane on the other hand is the first character I go to have a chat with.... thane's the man... but I don't use him as regularly because he's my second choice biotic behind Miranda because she has Warp AND overload... and he's my second choice sniper because Legion can use the Widow. He needs better skills, weapons... shredder ammo sucks.

Curing Thane should be a major plot point in ME3. I only want Thane to stay though if he can be cured because on a personal level I think he or anyone else really should spend their final few months with their loved ones, even if the fate of the galaxy is at stake.

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marshalleck wrote...

Mordin will because he's a fan favorite, but nobody likes Thane so he'll probably crawl off and die somewhere off camera.


Odd, I'm pretty sure it's quite the opposite.

But Mordin won't die of old age since he still has a decade of life.
Those 50 years are actually in human years.

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That's true.

Modifié par Ole Shepard, 30 mars 2011 - 08:03 .


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Mesina2 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Mordin will because he's a fan favorite, but nobody likes Thane so he'll probably crawl off and die somewhere off camera.


Odd, I'm pretty sure it's quite the opposite.

But Mordin won't die of old age since he still has a decade of life.
Those 50 years are actually in human years.


A character dying of old age would just be lame anyway.

I really hope that if Mordin survived your playthrough, he stays on the SR2 with you just as a Scientist, not a squaddy. Hopefully gets decent amount of dialouge though!

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I'd say they'll all return in ME3, I mean why spend all of ME2 recruiting them if not for ME3, it wasnt just for the suicide mission and besides there has to be some reason for Bioware urging you to keep everyone alive throughout the SM, imo to keep them all available in ME3