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Who here thinks Mordin Solus or Thane Krios will not be in Mass Effect 3?


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#51
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ravenimage wrote...

Why would BioWare waste resources to create new squadmates when we just spent virtually all of ME2 building a team? Seriously. That was the primary objective of the game. The whole "let's go blow up some Collectors" thing was a very small part; important, but small.

Secondly, BioWare writers love the characters they create as much as we do. Excepting poor Jacob, there's a huge fanbase for every character in ME. You may not like Mordin. You may not like Thane. But many, many other people do, and that all boosts the chances of them returning. That, and LIs will more than likely take priority.

The only way I don't see a character returning in some form is if the VA suddenly decides... they don't want to do it anymore. In that case, boom. New squadmate. Or if somebody dies on the suicide mission, I suppose. 


I want to remind you, It's possible that only you, two squadmates, Doctor Chakwa, and Joker are the only ones to survive. (Some of the crew, too, If I recall), but don't quote me on this part. 

So that leaves you with... Virmire Survivor, who may or may not be willing to join due to you being Cerberus or ex-Cerberus, Wrex, who might be busy with Tuchanka Krogan Clans, Liara, who is busy, Squadmate 1, and  Squadmate 2. 

And two, I never said I didn't like Mordin or Thane (unless you were referring to someone else). I like them. But they have a high very high possibility of "not making it" even if they survived. Mordin's very old, and Thane is very sick. It wouldn't be stretch or a shock (though it would be a disappoinment) that they died between the events of Mass Effect 2 and 3. 

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Mordin will die of old age before finding a cure for Thane, they both die.

HAHAHA jk.

ewauksonian wrote...
I want to remind you, It's possible that only you, two squadmates, Doctor Chakwa, and Joker are the only ones to survive. (Some of the crew, too, If I recall), but don't quote me on this part.

So that leaves you with... Virmire Survivor, who may or may not be willing to join due to you being Cerberus or ex-Cerberus, Wrex, who might be busy with Tuchanka Krogan Clans, Liara, who is busy, Squadmate 1, and Squadmate 2.

And two, I never said I didn't like Mordin or Thane (unless you were referring to someone else). I like them. But they have a high very high possibility of "not making it" even if they survived. Mordin's very old, and Thane is very sick. It wouldn't be stretch or a shock (though it would be a disappoinment) that they died between the events of Mass Effect 2 and 3.

I think one of the devs said that players with bad ME2 playthroughs would have a difficult time in ME3. This suggests that some ME2 squaddies will return as squaddies in ME3. (I imagine the most likely being: Tali, Garrus, Miranda, Mordin, Legion). I don't see Samara sticking around after the suicide mission. Miranda could easily go back to working for TIM, as a less liked companion Jacob will probably be cameo/side-lined. Jack will probably leave after the suicide mission, something she hints at throughout the game. Thane might die in the intervening time (or decide that since he'll probably die no matter what he does, he should spend the remainder of his time with his son). Zaeed and Kasumi being mercs and DLC characters are unlikely to return since they're optional squaddies. Legion may also leave and return to Geth space to share what he's learned while being with Shepard.

From ME1, Wrex is either dead or leading his krogan clans, doubtful he will be a full squad member.
Liara is being a shadow broker and also doubtful she will be a full squad member.
I don't see BioWare doing full game scripts for the VS, but from what happened in DA2 I think it's most likely that they'll be incorporated into your team at the halfway mark?

So that's like 4-6 potential squadmates returning, ME2 had 13 characters, so there could be like 2-4 new squadmates for ME3 and it wouldn't be overly catastrophic in terms of development

Modifié par Lukertin, 31 mars 2011 - 07:08 .


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marshalleck wrote...

Raizo wrote...

Mordin Solus is by far the most popular new squadmate for ME2, I am pretty certain he will be reurning for ME3 ( and not just because I heard a rumour that the VA for Mordin said he was working on ME3 ). The big question is will Mordin be a Squad mate in ME3? As much as I like Mordin I can't say I ever used him as Squad mate in ME2 ( with the exception of his Loyalty mission ), there was always someone else who I wanted to bring with me on missions. He just wasn't that good at kicking ass.


Disagree. He's awesome at stripping armor on insanity, very useful squaddie to have with an adept Shepard. 


This.  I used him all the time on insanity.

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Thane is an LI so I doubt they will kill him offscreen. I bet he will return but he might not be a Squadmate.
I know it says Mordin is 50 (and salarians usualy don't live past 40) but do they mean the equivalent of 50 for a Salarian or actually 50?
Because grunt is certainly not 22 and I thought Samara was nearly 1000 not 600.

Modifié par Manic Sheep, 31 mars 2011 - 07:45 .


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Mordin is 30 years old. Thane's imminent death will likely be used in ME3 to add some more drama, but Mordin still has ten years to live, if not more.

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Thane will be in Mass Effect 3 because he's a love interest. Whether he survives or not...is still up in the air of course. I really hope Mordin will come back, but I have my doubts and think if he does come back it will be a short appearance nothing more. Fanservice can only get you so much...right Wrex :(

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Me. Though I hope it will be a change for a batter cause, as I really like em both.

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I personally wouldn't mind if neither appeared in the third installment, because I found both so irritating - Mordin for his questionable ethics and lack of emotion, and Thane for those embarrassingly silly flashbacks.

It's why I left Mordin for dead at the end of the suicide mission without caring one iota.

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Thane will either be dead or spending time with his son. Romance be damned, do you really think a person in his position would give a damn about spending the last moments of his life with someone he can't procreate with, or with the one person resulting from his previous procreation?

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Vanguard Of Destruction wrote...

Thane will be in Mass Effect 3 because he's a love interest. Whether he survives or not...is still up in the air of course. I really hope Mordin will come back, but I have my doubts and think if he does come back it will be a short appearance nothing more. Fanservice can only get you so much...right Wrex :(


Me too. I get this strange feeling that if he's really showing up in ME3, he will somehow sacrifice himself or something o.0 

Thane, that is.

Modifié par Ole Shepard, 02 avril 2011 - 12:57 .


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Lukertin wrote...

Thane will either be dead or spending time with his son. Romance be damned, do you really think a person in his position would give a damn about spending the last moments of his life with someone he can't procreate with, or with the one person resulting from his previous procreation?


Not true depends on the man and him being nice to LI or child doesn't matter one man may choose the former while the other would choose the later.

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The salarian is a fan favorite and Thane has pull as a LI. Mordin might get a cameo but Thane has as much chance of being in the game as Liara does.

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Xsause wrote...

Mordin is 30 years old. Thane's imminent death will likely be used in ME3 to add some more drama, but Mordin still has ten years to live, if not more.


Mordin is 50.

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Ole Shepard wrote...

SPOILER ALERT !

READ ONLY IF YOU'VE BEATEN MASS EFFECT 1 AND 2!



I'm going to say it AGAIN. STOP READING if you've NOT beaten BOTH Mass Effect 1 AND 2. 

I don't want to ruin the experience for someone. I really hope I'm not breaking the rules here, lol. Anyway, back to the point.


But think about it, all your teammates from Mass Effect 2 CAN die during the suicide mission. Do you really think that BioWare will use their resources for new voice lines? For characters that may not even be in-game? For the people who lost their crew members and then imported their Mass Effect 2 content? Not everyone gets the same end you know. It's all a little mixed up.

If Thane doesn't die from his disease, there still might be a chance that he won't have a huge role in ME3.

Unfortunately, I think the entire crew will be replaced with new squad mates. If the old members are to be starred in the upcoming sequel, they'll most likely going to be the "non-combat" mates. In Mass Effect 1, your entire crew couldn't die. Sure, you could Kill Wrex, and you will have to choose betweeen Ashley and Kaiden. But the others couldn't die during a suicide mission. (Liara, for example.)

You could kill Wrex on the Virmire mission (At least I think it was Virmire, please correct me if I'm wrong.) I also think that's why he is now no longer a member of the crew. Because BioWare wouldn't bother recording so many voicelines for him if he wasn't even going to be in the game for some players.

At least that's what I think =P

I really hope Thane shows up though. Garrus and Thane are my favorite characters. At least Garrus, since he has been your loyal "bro" ever since Mass Effect 1.

They're not going to replace all the squad mates from ME2, the entire point of the game was to introduce and expand those characters and their stories, if they replaced them all in ME3 it would make ME2 the most pointless game ever made.

I mean look at SWTOR, Bioware has probably hired at least 30 different voice actors for it, I highly doubt they're not gonna have any problems bringing back characters they spent years making for ME2 back for ME3 as squad members.

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Fredvdp wrote...

I think it's possible that ME3 will take place over a decade like DA2. In that case we can see Thane in the beginning of the game and after a while he just dies and you move on.


Now that really does sound good, having there be a progression of time in ME3.

As far as topic goes, I can see Mordin still being kept on in a research role if not a combat one and he can be replaced with another Salarian researcher.  As far as Thane goes, as much as I would applaud Bioware for having the huevos to kill off a LI from the get go, I don't see it happening.

For my playthroughs, Thane was pretty worthless since I've got ample biotics from others as well as some Sheps, and for extra snipy goodness there's Zaeed, Garrus and Legion as well as some Sheps.  Only reason I bother with him is for the heavy pistol upgrade at the beginning of his loyalty mission, and if I could get away without recruiting him, I would without a question.

As much as he is dying, I figure the actuality will be he'll last as long as the plot decrees.

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Jayelle Janson wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

I think it's possible that ME3 will take place over a decade like DA2. In that case we can see Thane in the beginning of the game and after a while he just dies and you move on.


Suddenly there's a thud offscreen.

Garrus: What was that?

Shepard: Oh that was just Thane dying.  C'mon, let's move on.


Couldn't contain my laughter.

I will not be happy if Thane's death is just...

Shepard: "The reapers are invading! I want my old crew and my new crew! ...Where's Thane?"

EDI: "He died in his sleep over 3 weeks ago. I launched him out the airlock."

Modifié par KevinShotgunK2, 02 avril 2011 - 06:41 .


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Sursion wrote...

Xsause wrote...

Mordin is 30 years old. Thane's imminent death will likely be used in ME3 to add some more drama, but Mordin still has ten years to live, if not more.


Mordin is 50.


No. Mordin talks about his "last decade" during his loyalty mission, and Christina Norman confirmed him being thirty.

Modifié par Xsause, 02 avril 2011 - 07:56 .


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M-Sinistrari wrote...

Fredvdp wrote...

I think it's possible that ME3 will take place over a decade like DA2. In that case we can see Thane in the beginning of the game and after a while he just dies and you move on.


Now that really does sound good, having there be a progression of time in ME3.

As far as topic goes, I can see Mordin still being kept on in a research role if not a combat one and he can be replaced with another Salarian researcher.  As far as Thane goes, as much as I would applaud Bioware for having the huevos to kill off a LI from the get go, I don't see it happening.

For my playthroughs, Thane was pretty worthless since I've got ample biotics from others as well as some Sheps, and for extra snipy goodness there's Zaeed, Garrus and Legion as well as some Sheps.  Only reason I bother with him is for the heavy pistol upgrade at the beginning of his loyalty mission, and if I could get away without recruiting him, I would without a question.

As much as he is dying, I figure the actuality will be he'll last as long as the plot decrees.


Exactly. We'll probably have a new bevy of squadmates no matter what for ME3.

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I hope they both make it back. :(

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Lukertin wrote...

Thane will either be dead or spending time with his son. Romance be damned, do you really think a person in his position would give a damn about spending the last moments of his life with someone he can't procreate with, or with the one person resulting from his previous procreation?

"Time for me is short, siha, but any I have is yours to take." - Thane to FemShep (during the final romance-driven conversation prior to the romance scene itself)

I emphasize but any I have is yours to take.

It's not about procreation; it's about finding comfort and love. I highly suggest you do Thane's romance or at the very least read on it before you jump to wild assumptions.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 02 avril 2011 - 03:30 .


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awf08 wrote...

marshalleck wrote...

Raizo wrote...

Mordin Solus is by far the most popular new squadmate for ME2, I am pretty certain he will be reurning for ME3 ( and not just because I heard a rumour that the VA for Mordin said he was working on ME3 ). The big question is will Mordin be a Squad mate in ME3? As much as I like Mordin I can't say I ever used him as Squad mate in ME2 ( with the exception of his Loyalty mission ), there was always someone else who I wanted to bring with me on missions. He just wasn't that good at kicking ass.


Disagree. He's awesome at stripping armor on insanity, very useful squaddie to have with an adept Shepard. 


This.  I used him all the time on insanity.

one of the most useful squadmates.