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Dubya75

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Ouch, Bioware, better not stick this one on the DA2 homepage! 

http://www.wired.com...Top Stories 2))

Modifié par Dubya75, 29 mars 2011 - 12:45 .


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Tigress M

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Ouch is right. Hopefully BW will pay attention to feedback like this and not make the same mistakes in DA3. *crosses fingers but not holding my breath lol*

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Even though this game has obvious shortcommings, you just have to compare it to other games that got 50% reviews to see that this review is utter crap.

Modifié par Grestorn, 29 mars 2011 - 12:52 .


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looooool , they stick only the buyed reviews xD

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Its kinda funny (or refreshing) to see all these reviews that arent backed by big corporate ads give DA2 a lower score then thouse that are.

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Zhijn wrote...

Its kinda funny (or refreshing) to see all these reviews that arent backed by big corporate ads give DA2 a lower score then thouse that are.


Indeed, much more sobering and objective than some others.

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Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...


I don't find it strange at all that the reviews you agree with seem more objective to you.

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I think one of the biggest sticking points to most people is that this game feels like it could have been one of the all time greats.. but just wasn't given the time to let it turn out that way, so many shortcomings that cover up the parts which really could have been great

sad times :/

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...


Maybe it's because we so desperately want the game to be awesome. We want it to be a 9.5/10 title that everyone loves.
When we see those positive reviews, we get angry because we know they're not true.
We identify better with negative reviews because if we were totally honest with ourselves, we'd agree that almost all the intelligent criticisms are true.

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Wired, I love you and agree with you wholeheartedly.

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Nice try. It's cherry picking, pure and simple.

You discount the large amount of 8s and 8.5s this game has gotten.
You look at the number of 9s and 9.5s this game as gotten and you think: bought!
You seek out low scores where you can find them because they fit your own view.

Just admit that you're cherry picking. Otherwise you'd be going around posting reviews all along the spectrum, but you don't.

If we're all honest brokers here, this will go a lot more smoothly.

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Rockpopple wrote...

Nice try. It's cherry picking, pure and simple.

You discount the large amount of 8s and 8.5s this game has gotten.
You look at the number of 9s and 9.5s this game as gotten and you think: bought!
You seek out low scores where you can find them because they fit your own view.

Just admit that you're cherry picking. Otherwise you'd be going around posting reviews all along the spectrum, but you don't.

If we're all honest brokers here, this will go a lot more smoothly.


I don't consider it cherry picking.

Do not deny yourself. This game was not good.

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Dubya75 wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...


Maybe it's because we so desperately want the game to be awesome. We want it to be a 9.5/10 title that everyone loves.
When we see those positive reviews, we get angry because we know they're not true.
We identify better with negative reviews because if we were totally honest with ourselves, we'd agree that almost all the intelligent criticisms are true.


Or maybe its because we prefer reviews that validate our own opinion and like to dismiss differing opinions as unobjective or unintelligent.

But I may or may not be making an objective observation, depending on how much you agree with it or not. Posted Image

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Deylar wrote...

Rockpopple wrote...

Nice try. It's cherry picking, pure and simple.

You discount the large amount of 8s and 8.5s this game has gotten.
You look at the number of 9s and 9.5s this game as gotten and you think: bought!
You seek out low scores where you can find them because they fit your own view.

Just admit that you're cherry picking. Otherwise you'd be going around posting reviews all along the spectrum, but you don't.

If we're all honest brokers here, this will go a lot more smoothly.


I don't consider it cherry picking.

Do not deny yourself. This game was not good.


I'll add this game was not bad either.

And have made it clear on a few other thread, that I didn't hate the game either. I'm not like rawr. But I certainly have an empty feeling in my stomach afterwards.

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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...


How exactly would you go about buying a bad review? And why?

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The 79 average is really telling.

It's not a bad game. It's also not great and not the best Bioware title.

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If you don't consider it cherry-picking, then not for nothing, but you don't know what "cherry picking" means.

And if you believe the game was not good in your opinion, I'm not gonna argue with your opinion.

In my opinion, the game IS good. I can say this because I'm still playing it and enjoying it immensely.

Don't be mad I don't share your view, brah.

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To be fair, I've seen the same cherry-picking from those who liked the game too, but that's usually in response to negative cherry-picking. It's either - positive reviews have been bought and paid for by EA, or it's - negative reviews are from a bunch of trolls who have been influenced by 4chan.
Both are silly.

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Rockpopple wrote...

Nice try. It's cherry picking, pure and simple.

You discount the large amount of 8s and 8.5s this game has gotten.
You look at the number of 9s and 9.5s this game as gotten and you think: bought!
You seek out low scores where you can find them because they fit your own view.

Just admit that you're cherry picking. Otherwise you'd be going around posting reviews all along the spectrum, but you don't.

If we're all honest brokers here, this will go a lot more smoothly.


Not quite, sport.
Initially I would not listen to any criticism towards DA2, I firmly believed it was a 10/10 game. But as you play it, and re-play it, you start to see things that don't quite sit right. Then you play some more and you notice more little things that don't sit right. 
The varnish wears off you see! Reviews with scores of 5/10 - 7/10 are the real objective ones, especially in light of everything Origins was and everything DA2 was promised to be but never became.

Modifié par Dubya75, 29 mars 2011 - 01:47 .


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Cutlass Jack wrote...

Dubya75 wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...


Maybe it's because we so desperately want the game to be awesome. We want it to be a 9.5/10 title that everyone loves.
When we see those positive reviews, we get angry because we know they're not true.
We identify better with negative reviews because if we were totally honest with ourselves, we'd agree that almost all the intelligent criticisms are true.


Or maybe its because we prefer reviews that validate our own opinion and like to dismiss differing opinions as unobjective or unintelligent.

But I may or may not be making an objective observation, depending on how much you agree with it or not. Posted Image

This post validates my opinion. I  shall dismiss anything to the contrary as being stupid.Posted Image

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A negative review for the sake of it, time could be better spent doing something productive and positive.

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Dubya75

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Bathead wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Dubya75 wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

Its funny how the reviews we agree with seem more objective to us and less 'bought' than others...


Maybe it's because we so desperately want the game to be awesome. We want it to be a 9.5/10 title that everyone loves.
When we see those positive reviews, we get angry because we know they're not true.
We identify better with negative reviews because if we were totally honest with ourselves, we'd agree that almost all the intelligent criticisms are true.


Or maybe its because we prefer reviews that validate our own opinion and like to dismiss differing opinions as unobjective or unintelligent.

But I may or may not be making an objective observation, depending on how much you agree with it or not. Posted Image

This post validates my opinion. I  shall dismiss anything to the contrary as being stupid.Posted Image


If you want to dismiss everything that is not in agreement with your views as stupid, that's your business. :whistle:

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So you were cherry-picking only the positive reviews. Now you're cherry-picking the negative reviews. You seem to have a hard time seeing things as they are, "sport".

In any case, I don't need the opinions of some op-ed to validate how I feel about the game, especially after playing it for over 100 hours. If some people do - if they need that - that's their business, really.

And not to fight, but I'm not even gonna begin with this Origins hero-worship crap again. Completely not worth it.

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Dubya75 wrote...
Not quite, sport.
Initially I would not listen to any criticism towards DA2, I firmly believed it was a 10/10 game. But as you play it, and re-play it, you start to see things that don't quite sit right. Then you play some more and you notice more little things that don't sit right. 
The varnish wears off you see! Reviews with scores of 5/10 - 7/10 are the real objective ones, especially in light of everything Origins was and everything DA2 was promised to be but never became.


You had a bit of a change of a heart.
Or am I confusing you with someone else? 

I'm not being critical, I just find it interesting.