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http://www.amazon.co...7KGPHCVNMNYYXDR

and crysis2 is selling very well
I think DA series will be end up

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You know, otherwise nice, but to me (and i expect to many others) that won't have any value until it has sales numbers from a valid source.

And that's just Amazon.

And it doesn't say from what timespan the sales are gathered. No way Crysis 2 has sold more than RDR.

And it's just Xbox 360.

Modifié par Warheadz, 29 mars 2011 - 01:08 .


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Xbox 360 is just one platform.
Amazon is just one store.
No conclusive evidence in any way.

For more information on sales go to this site: http://www.vgchartz.com/

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It is but the 360 is the largest selling platform too so it' significant.

Largest evidence for poor sales is that you have not seen the EA splash ads that accompany outstanding success.

Modifié par BobSmith101, 29 mars 2011 - 01:12 .


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BobSmith101 wrote...
It is but the 360 is the largest selling platform too so it' significant.


Yeah, but I seriously laughed when it says that Black Ops has sold worse than 12 months of Xbox Live Gold. They should have at least putted up from what to when these sales are.

People buy their Live-time directly on their Xbox or from their nearest market, not from Amazon.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

It is but the 360 is the largest selling platform too so it' significant.

Largest evidence for poor sales is that you have not seen the EA splash ads that accompany outstanding success.

Well some PC exclusive games sold 10+ million copies. Just sayin'.

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What is it with DA fans hoping DA2 bombs because the game disappointed? Sure, Bioware rushed the sequel and it shows, but I like DA, and I don't want the series to disappear, which is exactly what will happen if it bombs. Maybe it's a good think NPD has forbidden anyone from sharing their sales data with the media. With luck, it will help to to tone down the "COD sold 20 million, game X sold "only" 3 million in 2 months, game X is an epic failure!!!" mentality.

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DA2 has heavy flaws and EA's rushing is evident, but this "OMG LOW SALES ABANDON SHIP" attitude is getting silly, especially when you consider that digital download sales are yet to be counted.

And again. An fps outsells an RPG. I R SHOCKED.

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What time period does that chart cover?

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CaimDark wrote...

What is it with DA fans hoping DA2 bombs because the game disappointed? Sure, Bioware rushed the sequel and it shows, but I like DA, and I don't want the series to disappear, which is exactly what will happen if it bombs. Maybe it's a good think NPD has forbidden anyone from sharing their sales data with the media. With luck, it will help to to tone down the "COD sold 20 million, game X sold "only" 3 million in 2 months, game X is an epic failure!!!" mentality.

If DA2 ever sells 3 mio copies it is considered a success pretty sure. I mean DA:O I think sold 4 mio. in one and half year and it is considered a success. With 5 years development time.

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AlexXIV wrote...
If DA2 ever sells 3 mio copies it is considered a success pretty sure. I mean DA:O I think sold 4 mio. in one and half year and it is considered a success. With 5 years development time.


You are forgetting that the reason that DA2 underwent these changes was to attract the "mass market". Selling the same as DA will not be seen as a success it will be seen as a failure.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

It is but the 360 is the largest selling platform too so it' significant.

Largest evidence for poor sales is that you have not seen the EA splash ads that accompany outstanding success.


Due to digital distribution, sales figures reported by third-parties are becoming less and less relevant. PC supposedly only accounts for 14% of Crysis sales, but that number only includes retail. I have not bought a PC game at retail in a long time,and neither have most of my friends.

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DAO sold about 4.7 million and grows up continue

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but DA2 will fail completely

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Most Americans love FPS, all they want to do is shoot so why be so surprised that and FPS is selling more, they always do.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...
If DA2 ever sells 3 mio copies it is considered a success pretty sure. I mean DA:O I think sold 4 mio. in one and half year and it is considered a success. With 5 years development time.


You are forgetting that the reason that DA2 underwent these changes was to attract the "mass market". Selling the same as DA will not be seen as a success it will be seen as a failure.

I am pretty sure they halfed the budget of DA:O in DA2. So if it does have the same sales it can't be a failure from a economist point of view. They may have tried to attract a new market, but there is never a guarantee that this works, with no product. Anyway, it would still be a financial success.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 29 mars 2011 - 01:26 .


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meteorswarm wrote...

but DA2 will fail completely


Are you so sure? DA2's sales are represented Here .
 Seems like it sold quite well.

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BobSmith101 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...
If DA2 ever sells 3 mio copies it is considered a success pretty sure. I mean DA:O I think sold 4 mio. in one and half year and it is considered a success. With 5 years development time.


You are forgetting that the reason that DA2 underwent these changes was to attract the "mass market". Selling the same as DA will not be seen as a success it will be seen as a failure.


plus that DA2 could count on the fans DA:O got (and a lot more money put into advertising).
a new game selling slowly? normal. the sequel to a very popular game selling slow? guess.


I am pretty sure they halfed the budget of DA:O in DA2. So if it
does have the same sales it can't be a failure from a economist point of
view. They may have tried to attract a new market, but there is never a
guarantee that this works, with no product. Anyway, it would still be a
financial success.


i disagree. i study economics and one of the first things they taught us is the value of regular customers and with that the value of sustainability. DA2 will likly give Bioware/EA a nice profit, but it harms their reputation and future sells of any other product they launch, as much as DA:O made people preorder DA2 or ignore bad reviews/the demo will DA2 make people not preorder the next or ignore good reviews (as there were a lot of 95% previews to this one)

and this goes for all products in near future.
just see for youself, i try to not be a stupid no-reason hater, but i will sure as hell wait 1-4 weeks after, say, the old republic launch and then read the user-reviews before buying it..or not.

Modifié par nopho, 29 mars 2011 - 01:36 .


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Warheadz wrote...

meteorswarm wrote...

but DA2 will fail completely


Are you so sure? DA2's sales are represented Here .
 Seems like it sold quite well.

I hate you. You wasted 10 seconds of my life and I am never gonna get them back.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

meteorswarm wrote...

but DA2 will fail completely


Are you so sure? DA2's sales are represented Here .
 Seems like it sold quite well.

I hate you. You wasted 10 seconds of my life and I am never gonna get them back.


Life sucks, doesn't it? :lol:

Sorry, but I can't help but be ridiculous when people are utterly ridiculous.

Edit: Not saying it is a fact that it wont fail, but these "I'm-going-to-state-something-as-a-fact" posts are annoying.

Modifié par Warheadz, 29 mars 2011 - 01:30 .


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AlexXIV wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

AlexXIV wrote...
If DA2 ever sells 3 mio copies it is considered a success pretty sure. I mean DA:O I think sold 4 mio. in one and half year and it is considered a success. With 5 years development time.


You are forgetting that the reason that DA2 underwent these changes was to attract the "mass market". Selling the same as DA will not be seen as a success it will be seen as a failure.

I am pretty sure they halfed the budget of DA:O in DA2. So if it does have the same sales it can't be a failure from a economist point of view. They may have tried to attract a new market, but there is never a guarantee that this works, with no product. Anyway, it would still be a financial success.


It's not the same thing. If they see DA2 as a failed experiment then it's either even more streamlining ,cancelation, or one last mediocre project before shutdown.

The reception DA2 has received means that they can't slip anything by people next time around.

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DA2 was quite disappointing for me personally. But I don't think it is a bad game. Maybe the worst Bioware game in the last couple of years (since Mass Effect), but Bioware standart is pretty high. It is still recieved mostly a 8/10 by reviewers and users I guess.

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Warheadz wrote...

Are you so sure? DA2's sales are represented Here .
 Seems like it sold quite well.


Is this some kindof hack site, I clicked on in at got an flag from my anti-virus/spyware system and when I checked the netconnections it showed a new tcp and udp connection still persisting even after I closed the site:mellow:

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1000questions wrote...

Warheadz wrote...

Are you so sure? DA2's sales are represented Here .
 Seems like it sold quite well.


Is this some kindof hack site, I clicked on in at got an flag from my anti-virus/spyware system and when I checked the netconnections it showed a new tcp and udp connection still persisting even after I closed the site:mellow:


... My anti-virus or anything didn't notice anything. It even showed the "safe site" icon next to it on google...

You sure it's not a false?:blink:

Edit: Ran a scan and didn't find anything...

Modifié par Warheadz, 29 mars 2011 - 02:18 .


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 Crazy!!  Did you know Mass Effect 1 is selling worse than Crysis 2 as well!  ZOMG WHAT CAN THIS MEAN?!

Did you know Sucker Punch sold more tickets than Inception at the box office this weekend?  I know right?

Did you know 2011 Chevy Silvarados are selling better than 1968 VW Beetles these days?  What is going on?

Economics.  How does it work?  Please to tell me?