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[The_Crazy_Hand]

BinaryHelix101 wrote...

I have never seen this much butthurt in one post. Cry me a river.

While you swallow one from Bioware's **** right?

I've never seen so much dick sucking in a thread before.  General consensus off this site is drastically more negative.

[george martin]

Arrival

Likes

*Basic storyline was very good, the Reapers certainly aren't going to rely on only one way to get back to the milky way galaxy, if they can't get there they'll eventually die off. They set up back doors in case their best chance the Citadel failed.

*No win scenario by the Rho artifact. I really enjoyed showing them all how bad **s shepard is, only way he goes down if you can handle all the waves is Rho mind controlling him.

*Gameplay design was great and very difficult, when I saw a project Cyro I'd get very worried those guys got some range.

*Looking out the windows knowing that this asteroid is going way too fast towards a relay I better hurry the hell up.

*Breaking out of confinement by taking over a mech was really cool.

*Getting to the comm in time so I can get out was challenging. I thought I could run past the big mech and hack it in time. Just as I was about to get done with the hack I got blasted and finally decided to kill it with barely enough time left to radio Normandy.

*Finally seeing Harbinger, the Reaper behind the collector menace was cool.

*Finally get to see Hackett and it's great dialogue. I can't wait to see what happens with Shepards trial in ME3. Being made the scapegoat is what naturally would happen. All evidence was destroyed so what the alliance will be thinking is Shepard crazy or was he possibly indoctrinated to blow up the system and not realize it?

Dislikes

*While the basic storyline was very good there wasn't enough meat in the middle. Not enough choices and lack of dialogue. There should have been some sort of cut scene when shepard was out for 2 days, one on the Normandy, seriously they would have been a bit worried about him. Also there should have been some more info on why exactly the Reapers wanted Shepard alive. As much trouble as he's caused him there should be a good explanation for why they don't want him dead. As Garrus stated when they ****** him off bad things happen.

*Too short, what I had was fun but there should have been a little more to this considering it's setting up ME3.

*Enjoyed the solo action a lot but squad mates should have been introduced eventually, that's why I thought it should have had more meat in the story so this could happen. Really not too worried about the VS not showing up, to me would actually be a bit weird for them to cosmically coincidentally show up at this point after seeing them on Horizon. I'm sure Ashley and Kaidan make a big appearance in ME3 I can wait.

*Considering all the history Shepard and Harbinger now share I thought the dialogue was too brief. What was there was very good but way too brief and I felt it should have been a darker atmosphere.

Conclusion
*I enjoyed this DLC a lot though it felt a bit rushed, ranks with Overlord, left LOTSB for last since most folks think it's the best DLC so now for the last one!

[Kaatz]

Personally, I think you guys at Bioware are getting bashed pretty hard for this DLC. I think the issue is that people are so used to an oustanding product from you guys, especially with this game. Mass Effect 2 is one of the most highly praised video games in recent history supported by two oustanding DLC experiences. After one of the best games in the past decade, Overload and Lair of the Shadow Broker people are expecting to be blown away by the DLC. Instead this one was just good, not great or excellent or mind blowing, just good. However, I think there was still a lot of good in Arrival and I don't think you guys are completely deserving of all the bad heat you're getting for it.

That being said here is my pro and con list:
Pros:

• AWESOME combat: The fight for Object Rho was extremely challenging, maybe even too much so (I played as a level 30 Vanguard on Insanity) but I'd rather have it be too challenging than not enough.
• Great atmosphere: Both the rainy, night environment of the Batarian base on Bahak and the Project Base on the asteroid were awesome, especially the zero gravity at the end!
• Stealth: I would never have thought to incorporate stealth into the Mass Effect universe but I thought it was a really cool addition. I think this and similar concepts could add another great layer of gameplay to missions if developed further for ME3.
• Admiral Hackett: It was great to finally see and speak with this character after all the conversations with him over the first two games.
• Sense of urgency: The countdown clock, the constant badgering from Harbinger, the importance of destroying this specific mass relay and all the other elements of the DLC really helped add a tone of intensity to the whole thing. This was perhaps my favorite thing about this DLC is that it created the sense of dodging a bullet and buying more time while further emphasizing how screwed the galaxy might be. Very well done.

Cons:

• Pacing: It seemed like the whole mission was "Go go go go" the whole time. The nice thing about Overlord and Lair of the Shadow Broker is there was time built in to reflect on the experience while it was happening. One of my favorite parts of Overlord was just driving around in the Hammerhead and enjoy9jg the gorgeous environment you guys had built there. In Arrival it felt like there was no time built in to relfect. Even though the tone of Arrival was intened to be urgent it'd still be nice to have some low intensity moments sprinkled throughout the breakneck speed of the rest of the mission.
• Character developement: Kenson was the only new character and it seemed like just as we were getting to know her, the plot twisted and she became the crazy bad guy we had to chase down. It would've been nice to get to know more of her backstory. It seemed like there was more to her and Hackett, perhaps that could've been explored further? Also the morality issue of killing over 300,000 Batarians could've been fleshed out more for Shepard.
• Dialogue: In particular, Shepard's conversation with Harbinger at the end felt a touch bland. It seems like more drama could've been created here, especially on Shepard's end. Additionally, it would've been nice to have more conversations with characters about the imminent invasion of the Reapers. This invasion will perhaps be the biggest event of the series, why not supercharge it with a lot more fear and desperation?

All and all I enjoyed the DLC. Sure I didn't walk away from it with the same sock and awe of Overlord or Lair of the Shadow Broker but I still had fun with it. It created some nice connecting story to Mass Effect 3 and introduced some new, unique situations. Best of luck with ME3, can't wait for the release!

[GuardianAngel470]

The_Crazy_Hand wrote...

BinaryHelix101 wrote...

I have never seen this much butthurt in one post. Cry me a river.

While you swallow one from Bioware's **** right?

I've never seen so much dick sucking in a thread before.  General consensus off this site is drastically more negative.

I've never seen two blatanty inappropriate and pooly thought out posts accentuate each other so well when quoted.

Seriously, difference of opinion is fine, I personally found the DLC disappointing, but you have to articulate your opinion or it will be disregarded.

It was short, it was fast paced, and it seemed rushed. Dr. Kenson didn't seem any different in appearance than any other NPC.

However, it was a good epilogue and the fast pace often worked for the DLC rather than against it. Though Shepard proved yet again that he knows nothing about this thing called Proof and it was probably the first time I'd ever thought of my shepard as an idiot for believing something it also granted us access to Hackett and fighting alone was satisfying.

[Mr.Pin]

Personally I thought Arrival was decent at best. I thought some things were good but overall there were to many cons. I would rate it a 5/10 or a C. I love ME as it is one of my favorite games of all time and I played Arrival with my 5 play-through, so I gave it a chance, but it just did not do anything for me.
 
I thought meeting Hackett “in person” was the best part. Finally we got to put a face to a man who had a BIG role in ME. Then for reason’s unknowing he was hardly mentioned in ME2. So, for Bioware to go back to some “roots” was a very nice touch.
 
I liked and enjoyed doing a solo mission for once. It was nice to see what my Shep could do. I thought doing it solo made it a tad harder, which was also nice. It was a little to fast-paced but overall I liked doing something new. I would not mind seeing another solo mission in ME3, but probably only one.
 
 I thought Arrival was too short, even for a $7 DLC.  In the end $7 is still $7. The story felt a little rushed and unpolished in a lot of areas. The whole Reapers are going to attack is something we all know. It just felt like I was running around instead of getting ready to kick some Reaper ****. For me Arrival was more of a trailer turned DLC and did not really bridge ME2-ME3.   I also felt it was too much of a shooter, which I really did not enjoy. I don’t play ME for the combat; I play for the RPG elements. Arrival did not really have any RPG elements, which was sad. If I want to play a shooter, I will play COD. If I want to play what I think is the best RPG game, I play ME.
 
I thought they should have had either Joker, EDI, etc… ask what you were doing, where you were going, or ask if you needed help. That for me would have maybe equaled out the combat and rpg elements. I would have also just liked to have rapped up one of the MANY questions we have. Like the Quorians and Geth, the Krogan and the genophage, trying to find the Rachni queen, or the VS survivor. These are things that must be answered and handled GREAT, and thought a DLC could have done that.  I know they will probably be handled in ME3 but I was still hoping.
 
That’s my review of Arrival. Would I recommend it to others? Maybe… If you have bought all the other DLC and are a huge fan of ME and can afford it then yes buy it, but if not then I would say no.
 

[ackattack74]

Given how short it was, Bioware should do another dlc prior to ME3 I think. It was a good dlc, don't get me wrong, but for what they are wanting to do and talking about with ME3, another dlc should be done I feel.

[tangalin]

For the people saying they wanted it to end with a bang...


You blew up a solar system! How much more bang does it get?

But seriously, I agree, the ending did seem lackluster. Combat was fun though.

[Greed1914]

I enjoyed the solo mission since it allowed me to play my specialty, solo sneaking missions.  I couldn't pass up the chance to go Solid Snake on the Batarians.  It also made for a nice bridge since it showed Shepard that that the Reapers were even closer than he thought.  It also set up a major point of conflict so that Shepard might not be able to just rush in to stop the Reapers.  Perhaps being detained by authorities stops him from delaying the Reapers?

The only down side would probably be the length.  Finishing in under an hour is a bit of a bummer, but then again longer DLC always costs more. 

[jbadm04]

pro:
1) music
2) level layout (improved, compared to original game)
3) Shep is finaling using proper weapons

contra:
1a) solo part (this is still a RPG, if I want to play a FPS, I would rather play Crysis2 etc and not ME2)
1b) stealth (solo) part, is very forced and not working (ie. infiltrator cloak)
2) plot holes... sorry, but who did the writing here, anyone who had no idea about ME2? the Reapers are like 10min to the Galaxy and then you just return at fighting the Collectors with Harbinger with all hies friends far far away? Who decided to unlock this after Horizon????? ME2 throw already a lot of the lore overboard, but this DLC is a mess.

[Terror_K]

In some ways I think LotSB spoiled a lot of people. It kind of came along and a lot of people felt it really set the standard, and then Arrival comes along and doesn't even get close to it. It's not a bad DLC really, but look at what it had to follow.

[Cetregon]

Terribly disappointed in this DLC
- Way too short
- No real connection to Kenson
- Central choice wasn't a choice at all
- No squad
- Shallow story
- Obvious "twist." While walking through Project Base, I was looking at everyone standing around, knowing I was going to have to kill them all eventually.

I just killed 300k people, and it was less of a big deal than whether I would sleep with Tali. For a company that lives or dies on the story, Bioware was off the mark on this one.

[Japkap79]

Seems like we are spoiled bratz for the most part atleast, all im hearing is i want more give me more, how much game can you expect in total of mass effect 2, i know the majority has played the game through ALOT of times my self included, they need some things for ME3 or we will get a short game if you keep wanting more DLC.

Simple thing to say is around end of the DLC you see how short an amount of time there will be before they ARRIVE, so you want us to start fighting them in 1 last DLC before ME3 or what.

Modifié par Japkap79, 01 avril 2011 - 01:28 .

[kyrieee]

Japkap79 wrote...

Seems like we are spoiled bratz for the most part atleast, all im hearing is i want more give me more, how much game can you expect in total of mass effect 2, i know the majority has played the game through ALOT of times my self included, they need some things for ME3 or we will get a short game if you keep wanting more DLC.

Spoiled? We're paying for this stuff

[Dominus]

No real connection to Kenson

You really want a romance option with kenson...?

Shepard: You have the object rho, but do you have the object of your desire?
Dr. Kenson: ....GTFO.

Or did you mean just as a character? What kind of connection were you hoping for?

Modifié par DominusVita, 01 avril 2011 - 05:31 .

[Locutus_of_BORG]

kyrieee wrote...

Japkap79 wrote...

Seems like we are spoiled bratz for the most part atleast, all im hearing is i want more give me more, how much game can you expect in total of mass effect 2, i know the majority has played the game through ALOT of times my self included, they need some things for ME3 or we will get a short game if you keep wanting more DLC.

Spoiled? We're paying for this stuff

They also supposedly had an entire team devoted to working on this and all the other ME DLC, apart from everything else they're doing, so it's not like they diverted resources away from ME3.

Fact is, Arrival was supposed to be ME2's epilogue. Instead of going out with a genuine bang, we've been left with just a somewhat underwhelming piece that has trouble fitting in with the rest of the game.

DominusVita wrote...

No real connection to Kenson

You really want a romance option with kenson...?

Shepard: You have the object rho, but do you have the object of your desire?
Dr. Kenson: ....GTFO.

Or did you mean just as a character? What kind of connection were you hoping for?

I'm guessing the guy meant Kenson just as a character. For me, I never thought much about her beyond "save [object]" followed by "kill [object]".. She seemed to make even less of an impression on me than Donovan Hock from Kasumi's LM.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 01 avril 2011 - 05:40 .

[Tazzmission]

kyrieee wrote...

Japkap79 wrote...

Seems like we are spoiled bratz for the most part atleast, all im hearing is i want more give me more, how much game can you expect in total of mass effect 2, i know the majority has played the game through ALOT of times my self included, they need some things for ME3 or we will get a short game if you keep wanting more DLC.

Spoiled? We're paying for this stuff

 you cant deny that alot of posters feel that bioware owes them something. imo alot of these posters are indeed cry babies because no matter what bioware does  these people are never happy. im not saying the dlc was perfect or heck im not saying its the best one but god damnit i enjoyed it even if  it did last an hour. it beats the hell out of completing the game and just zip through space after you continue when the credits are over. the truth is we all got ourselves worked up and expected something bigger but cmon man you cant deny it was fun. i see alot of people say that lotsb had more options in it than this but when in fact it was almost similar. only real diffrence between the 2 dlcs is that we had 2 boss fights. even if bioware did add a boss fight to arrival how much you wanna bet people would complain on the price for the dlc?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 01 avril 2011 - 06:07 .

[mystupidmouth]

It was a fun hour or so. Kenson is probably the ugliest looking character in mass effect.

[Tazzmission]

mystupidmouth wrote...

It was a fun hour or so. Kenson is probably the ugliest looking character in mass effect.

i wonder if she and dr chakwas are related.... didnt you think they look alike?

[Locutus_of_BORG]

^No. Kenson's eyes are really close together... that's about as much that comes to mind when I think of her... Oh yeah, and you save her, but she betrays you at some point - those are the other points.

[Japkap79]

Have to say it like someone else said how much bigger a bang do you want then a solar system :/.

[MajorJoeKickass]

What's all this banter about virmire survivor? have i missed something?

[Nathan Redgrave]

Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Fact is, Arrival was supposed to be ME2's epilogue. Instead of going out with a genuine bang, we've been left with just a somewhat underwhelming piece that has trouble fitting in with the rest of the game.

I will admit, Arrival seems like the weakest of the DLC missions, not counting Firewalker or the Normandy Crash Site or anything like that. Granted, that's less because of Arrival's own failures than because Zaeed, Kasumi, Overlord, and Lair of the Shadow Broker are just stronger efforts, but oh well. It's still a fun ride, it just could have been better and we were kinda trained to expect better out of our ME2 downloads.

[Nathan Redgrave]

LeVaughnX wrote...

Though I was expecting more of an epic end and more about Anderson and maybe the VS and possibly Hackett (sp) defending you for your decision - not just saying ""HEY YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL BYE!"".

You're not going to jail, you're going on trial. The actual "defending" part will probably happen in ME3, although I get the feeling the trial will be decided less by logical debate than by a sudden, cataclysmic Reaper invasion.

[Japkap79]

Think the invasion will happen as your being asked to return to earth, so ofcourse you stay away to gather up an army but i think we will have a hard time to get the batarians to help us after our little asteroid incident :/.

[Nathan Redgrave]

Japkap79 wrote...

Think the invasion will happen as your being asked to return to earth, so ofcourse you stay away to gather up an army but i think we will have a hard time to get the batarians to help us after our little asteroid incident :/.

My prediction is that Shepard is on trial, something exciting happens, Shepard escapes in the nick of time, and since the Reapers probably killed the comm-buoy network connecting Earth to the rest of the universe, Shepard is the only means of getting the news about the Reaper invasion out to the rest of the galaxy.

Oh, and step five: profit.

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 01 avril 2011 - 09:23 .