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[ZombiePowered]

I hope not. Otherwise I'm going to need a bigger butter knife.

[bleetman]

Anders died a long, long time before any of us shoved a knife in his back.

[sheppard7]

Russalka wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

This is the best explanation and I support it. That would explain Anders going from saying all he wants is a pretty girl to being the flamingest gay in the game. It's actually Justice who is gay. It would also go for those who played Awakening and Anders didn't survive it as well.

Oh, you're one of those people.

Yes, a person who has a problem with ANDERS. Not with the others being bi in the game. Try your little attempt elsewhere.

My issue with Anders is how the character was changed without any real explanation from Bioware when he made comments in Awakening that made him out to be a wannabe womanizer. At least the one I replied to had a plausible explanation for Anders changing.

Say it with me: CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT

Now if you thought it was more than that, then Epic Fail

Modifié par sheppard7, 29 mars 2011 - 11:03 .

[MCPOWill]

My Hawke didn't kill Anders, but once my Warden heres of what Anders did... there is gonna be a reckoning!!!!

No I am sure Bioware won't mess with Anders' death like Leliana's (which I think they have a trick up their sleeve *if* she did supposedly die in DAO) because the Anders/Sebastian thing is similiar to scenario with Alistair/Loghain in DAO and Bioware has respected that decision. Yes It can say so-and-so party member died in the attack on Vigil's Keep, but it is damn well vague, like Velanna's body being missing.

[The Angry One]

sheppard7 wrote...

My issue with Anders is how the character was changed without any real explanation from Bioware when he made comments in Awakening that made him out to be a wannabe womanizer.

Because as we know, people never lie or omit details.

[sheppard7]

The Angry One wrote...

sheppard7 wrote...

My issue with Anders is how the character was changed without any real explanation from Bioware when he made comments in Awakening that made him out to be a wannabe womanizer.

Because as we know, people never lie or omit details.

Then Bioware should have made a special statement of him coming out of the closet. You are going by possibilities you want and now I got one I can live with. Deal with it.

[Medhia Nox]

Has a cat named "Ser Pounce A Lot" - the dude never liked girls.

[Nerivant]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Has a cat named "Ser Pounce A Lot" - the dude never liked girls.

That he kept in his robe. You're omitting that crucial bit of information.

[Russalka]

Well, he certainly is an example of heterosexual manliness in Awakening.

Justice stirred many things inside of him. He never had the need to say how much he cared about what happened in the Circle or how much the state of the world hurt him, before the possession. He did not show many parts of his personality and preferences in Awakening.

Everything makes sense to me.

EDIT: I love how any sort of "topic" suddenly derailed.

Modifié par Russalka, 29 mars 2011 - 11:18 .

[TriniWarlord]

Roonya wrote...

...Sigh. When you kill a mage possessed by a spirit, the spirit returns to the fade. Justice only managed to possess Kristoff's dead body in a freak accident involving the Baroness' magic iirc - he didn't seek out the corpse to possess it. This logic would indicate that he can't just magic Anders' body back into motion and carry on.

Well by that same freak accident Justice may be permenantly stuck in the physical world, unless some other magic is used to once again banish him back into the Fade. Also in Awakenings conversations with him he mentions that Spirits can die and are sent to "somewhere beyond the Fade", even they do not know about what happens when you die. Furthermore I dont see why Vengence cannot simply keep him alive even after he dies.

PS I personally found his death to too willing and uneventful, I honestly expected to see some blast of spirit energy or something as Vengence was destroyed with him. It was just quiet... Too quiet.

[TJPags]

He's only dead if Bioware doesn't decide they need him for the next game.

Face it.

[sheppard7]

TriniWarlord wrote...

Roonya wrote...

...Sigh. When you kill a mage possessed by a spirit, the spirit returns to the fade. Justice only managed to possess Kristoff's dead body in a freak accident involving the Baroness' magic iirc - he didn't seek out the corpse to possess it. This logic would indicate that he can't just magic Anders' body back into motion and carry on.

Well by that same freak accident Justice may be permenantly stuck in the physical world, unless some other magic is used to once again banish him back into the Fade. Also in Awakenings conversations with him he mentions that Spirits can die and are sent to "somewhere beyond the Fade", even they do not know about what happens when you die. Furthermore I dont see why Vengence cannot simply keep him alive even after he dies.

PS I personally found his death to too willing and uneventful, I honestly expected to see some blast of spirit energy or something as Vengence was destroyed with him. It was just quiet... Too quiet.

He went out with a wimper. He didn't deserve to go out with a bang.

[PlumPaul93]

TJPags wrote...

He's only dead if Bioware doesn't decide they need him for the next game.

Face it.

This

[Kingthlayer]

I think he's dead if killed.

I assume the decision to bring back Leliana was that a low amount of people killed her and that for the decision you had to have a certain party set up and make a certain decision. Plus with the way Origins pans out it doesn't really scream sequel to me.

But with DA2, it's obvious DA3 is right around the corner and to retcon a decision that every single person is going to face doesn't really make that much sense.

[greyman33]

Yeah, I'd say they can pretty easily bring Anders back regardless of how he ended things for you in DA2. Thing is, he may just be an animated corpse slowly rotting away while Justice walks the earth like Kain from Kung Fu.

It really sounded like he intended to die one way or the other in his crusade as you're talking to him. I think the original plan may have been for him to go out as a suicide bomber, and then the devs changed it up or something. Just sayin'. But in any event, I had the feeling talking to him in act 3 that he was tired of running and generally done. So in that regard I hope they just let him die if that's how you rolled in your playthrough.

Thing is, Justice is an immortal (as far as we know) fade spirit capable of inhabiting a corpse until it has rotted out from under him. They could easily write the reanimated corpse of Anders into any future installments.

[frustratemyself]

It's just a flesh wound, he'll be fine.

[berelinde]

If they wanted to bring him back, they'll find a way.

A knife in the back is not as fatal as one might think. If it tore the aorta, he'd be dead, but if it punctured a lung instead, healing would fix it. Either way, there are a lot of mages running around at that point. One of them might have felt enough gratitude toward him to spend a few mana points on a revivification spell.

[Fruit of the Doom]

This is the canon version of what happened guys:

http://community.liv...ssing/3240.html

[Avissel]

I think he is dead this time. His character served it's purpose in exacerbating the situation in Kirkwall, I can't really think of a reason he would need to be brought back.

[Derrick1011]

He lived to help me put down both Meredith and Orsino.

In fact, I wouldn't let anyone touch him. I know the purpose of collecting saltpeter. I just thought we were blowing up the Templars. Oh well, the Chantry will do!

[dantares83]

if you all had read his story released by bioware (before DA2 was officially released), a templar stabbed him and he DID NOT even feel a thing. I doubt he can be killed by a knife... n there is no mention of what happened to Justice (if he is dead), so I guess Bioware has more plans for him...

[raymonddhj]

I think Bioware has a nice setup for Anders/Justice/Vengeance to be a force in DA3. Hawke either stabbed Anders in the back or Anders stabs Hawke later on. Either way his methods are to extreme to trust that he will not slaughter anyone that gets in his way.

[SirDoctorofTARDIS]

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[errant_knight]

Well, he's dead for those who did him in unless the writers want to use him again, in which case some mage will have healed him after you left. There's no way to know if he's dead or not.

[LadyVaJedi]

for those that "killed" Anders he is only mostly dead that means he is slightly alive.