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Whats Biowares excuse for the lack of VS in Arrival?


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#176
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xzxzxz701 wrote...

GreenDragon37 wrote...

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I hope the VS gets killed in the opening scene of ME3.


You just wanna' see people get pissed off, don't ya? Image IPB

Nerd rage tears are fuel for the Reapers.


*Assuming direct control* "Give us your tears! You're delicious tears!"

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Quole wrote...

WAIT. The VS has fans?


Suprisingly, yes.  Even ordinary people who excel at their jobs, deal with their own problems rather than have Shepard handle it for them, and aren't interstellar bad****es have fans Image IPB

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iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

WAIT. The VS has fans?


Suprisingly, yes.  Even ordinary people who excel at their jobs, deal with their own problems rather than have Shepard handle it for them, and aren't interstellar bad****es have fans Image IPB

I dont believe you.

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I know what VS is in reference to, but what does the abbreviation stand for? It's bugging the hell out of me.

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iakus wrote...

Suprisingly, yes.  Even ordinary people who excel at their jobs, deal with their own problems rather than have Shepard handle it for them, and aren't interstellar bad****es have fans Image IPB


Agreed, except for that part.

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omgpanic wrote...

I know what VS is in reference to, but what does the abbreviation stand for? It's bugging the hell out of me.

Vermire Survivor.

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This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 30 mars 2011 - 04:31 .


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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

no it isnt.

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If they had no plans to reconcile the romance or friendship with Ash/Kai then they should not have done that with Liara, that's all there is too it.

LOTSB wasn't only about loving Liara, oh and as for Bioware not being fair

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Quole wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

no it isnt.


True.

If you are a genetically engineered hottie, a superbiotic, or have spooooky glowing eyes, you can be a cool human.

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I never liked Ashley because she was racist, and she wanted to just kill Wrex. Kaiden was so bland. Liara was a lot more interesting than both.

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It is true.

Alien romances are generally way more popular, exotic nature and all.

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iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

no it isnt.


True.

If you are a genetically engineered hottie, a superbiotic, or have spooooky glowing eyes, you can be a cool human.

You forgot Zaeed.

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iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

no it isnt.


True.

If you are a genetically engineered hottie, a superbiotic, or have spooooky glowing eyes, you can be a cool human.


Or a helmet

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Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.


I see Humans everyday. It's not as cool as interacting with the Aliens in the ME Universe. Besides, like I've said earlier, you people expected too much from this DLC.

I bet when BioWare brings the VS to the forefront in ME3, you people will be praising the ground BioWare stands on.

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Quole wrote...

iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

no it isnt.


True.

If you are a genetically engineered hottie, a superbiotic, or have spooooky glowing eyes, you can be a cool human.

You forgot Zaeed.


You're right.  I should add "Last man standing".  And perhaps "ninja" just to make sure all my bases are covered. Image IPB

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iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.

no it isnt.


True.

If you are a genetically engineered hottie, a superbiotic, or have spooooky glowing eyes, you can be a cool human.

You forgot Zaeed.


You're right.  I should add "Last man standing".  And perhaps "ninja" just to make sure all my bases are covered. Image IPB

Hey! Dont be mad at me just because the VS is boring.

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GreenDragon37 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

This entire issue is a byproduct of one single formula: Alien = Cool and Awesome (ergo has fans), Human = Boring and Dull (ergo has NO fans).

Unfortunately, that's what it seems like to me, and I hope BioWare realizes just how WRONG that frame of mind is.


I see Humans everyday. It's not as cool as interacting with the Aliens in the ME Universe. Besides, like I've said earlier, you people expected too much from this DLC.

I bet when BioWare brings the VS to the forefront in ME3, you people will be praising the ground BioWare stands on.


Or saying "About frakking time"

Like I said, it's not just about this dlc.  It's about all the dlcs, and the game itself, and the terrible treatment these characters received when not being outright ignored..  Now that we know there is absolutely no hope of it being rectified in ME 2...it's frustrating, let's put it like that.

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iakus wrote...

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Feel free to flame at me but I really don't get all the hype over the lack of the VS. We as gamers have little to no control over what Bioware put in their game and if they decide they don't want something, they don't put it in.

 
I think it's just the disproportion of it that bothers people.  The VS get's the least screen time out of any ME1 squaddie and while that's not damning on it's own (unless they're all equal somebody's gotta be least) there's also no way for our interaction with the VS to end well.  So not only were VS fans given almost no time with the character they were railroaded into a falling out while Garrus and Tali were romanceable squadmates, Wrex got a decent cameo, and Liara got her own DLC.  I can understand being slightly pissed about that.


Sums it up very well, thank you


yep.  we could even deal with horizon despite it being an incredibly blatant attempt to get people to move on to new love interests (and ended up inspiring a lot of shallow hate in a process), if there was something, anything at all.  sure, if you romance them you get a non commital letter.  but what about my renegade femshep who lost her best bud and partner in crime, Ashley?  what about my mensheps who lost their best friend, Kaidan?  they got nothing, BUT horizon.

and here we are, talking to hackett who found time to come to Normandy in PERSON and I understand that we're talking about something incredibly important her and of an enormous magnitute (a loss of entire system)  but we can ask him so  many different questions...but one.  we cannot even ask him to pass the message along.  there is no mention, nothing.

no shadow broker dossier - I mean, that guy was watching keepers and minor mercs on Omega, he has information on Anderson and Hacket himself, but nothing on VS, who happens to be one of the heroes of the cittadel and a classified (and therefor potentialy important to watch) operative?  if shadow broker can get their hands on Hackets correspondence and Anderson movements, heck he knows whom TIM is sleeping with, when and how many cigars he smokes a day, and yet no info on VS?  Liara mentions every single LI but the only mention VS gets, is if you take one specific renegade conversation option and even then, its rubbing the Horizon in.

with all of the above, it gets more and more difficult to beleive that developrs are not just writing VS out.  And before anyone says anything about ability to kill your ME2 LI's - its much easier to save them then to kill them, you get cuddling on demand, and there are no other indications that developers might have nefarious plans for them.

so yeah... VS fans are not particularely happy right now.  can you blame us?

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Quole wrote...

Hey! Dont be mad at me just because the VS is boring.


Being able to shoot someone between the eyes at a hundred meters while quoting poetry is not boring!

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iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

Hey! Dont be mad at me just because the VS is boring.


Being able to shoot someone between the eyes at a hundred meters while quoting poetry is not boring!

Yes it is. Well to be fair, Jcaob is the most boring, and useless squad mate.

Modifié par Quole, 30 mars 2011 - 04:45 .


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Quole wrote...

iakus wrote...

Quole wrote...

WAIT. The VS has fans?


Suprisingly, yes.  Even ordinary people who excel at their jobs, deal with their own problems rather than have Shepard handle it for them, and aren't interstellar bad****es have fans Image IPB

I dont believe you.

yeah not everyone has to go "Shepard, please Save me and solve all of m problems all the time!" Some peolpe actually solve their own problems and don't need Shepard to tell them how to live or use her as a sounding board for their talks of genocide and hate for synthetics. They're called human squadmates and they're good looking too.Image IPB

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But on topic, the Virmire survivor better have an EPIC role in ME3 for their fans to get shafted this long, and I mean EPIC.


Actually, they don't really owe you anything. They can do whatever they want.

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Besides, like I've said earlier, you people expected too much from this DLC.

I bet when BioWare brings the VS to the forefront in ME3, you people will be praising the ground BioWare stands on.


Think of it like this; your mother bakes a pie and hands out a few pieces, but not to you.  So you hope that you'll get a piece and you never do.  Then your mother announces she's handing out the last piece of pie and surely this one must go to you, you're the only person who hasn't gotten a piece.  Then the piece goes to someone else and you're just left to lick the pie tray.

Now let's say a little while later your mother bakes another pie just for you.  While you're happy about this new pie are you ever going to forget the first.

Note: I realize my analogy doesn't work perfectly but you get my point.

Modifié par DPSSOC, 30 mars 2011 - 04:48 .


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All this negativity against fans of other characters is making me sad.

Can't we all just get along? Or at least be a family and have livable hate?