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laughing sherpa girl wrote...

I personally gave up on plated tin and ribbons over forty years ago when i burned my uniforms and duffle bag in the company parking lot, climbed on my little honda and kissed the whole damned army good bye.. so i dont go for the medals/trophies here either. But, maybe i'll play it through to see that alternate ending anyway.. The thing that gives me a knot in my gut is that your given a very simple choice and there are no alternatives.. Your either a damned coward and get the entire human race exterminated in me3 or you got a backbone and kill 320000 beings in thr dlc. in other words your either a facist on the side of the humans or your an equalist committing what could become the greatest war crime of all... I find it less than amusing that the number of people you kill in this dlc is very close to the population of Hiroshima at the end of world war two, and i cant help to wonder if theres a tie in there.. (snippy snip)


OK, time out folks.  This DLC sets nothing important in stone.  It does not (and cannot) doom the human race or save it, etc.  It is a DLC that not everyone will actually buy and play.  No DLC can change the core game which MUST assume no DLCs at all as far as core plot points.  DLCs only ever change fairly modest or unimportant aspects of the game (what character is around, what character can be referenced in the future, etc.) If you never download and play the Arrival DLC, the ME3 game will play out, major plot point for major plot point, the same way regardless.  Certain things will be assumed regardless of whether you actually play any DLC.  One assumption you can almost certainly count upon (though it can easily be ignored entirely) in ME3 is the assumption that the Mass Relay in this Arrival DLC was destroyed.  Maybe the game will assume Shepard did it or maybe it will retcon it so that the original team did it.  On the other hand, if you never play this DLC, perhaps ME3 will start with a backstory of Shepard blowing up the relay, etc.  In any case, this is easily handled for the story which is set in stone and doesn't even need a DLC to make it flow.  Don't get too wound up on the meaning of this DLC.  There isn't one.  It is just a fun interlude while everyone waits for ME3. 

Hell, the Lair of the Shadowbroker outcome will likely not do much for ME3.  Either Liara will be on your squad again or not whether you played that DLC or not.  If you didn't play LotSB then Liara will still be the Shadowbroker, placed there by backstory.  Playing the actual DLC is irrelevant to this.  The Lair itself will otherwise likely play the role it plays in game after you complete the mission:  you go there now and then to see new videos, collect goodies (like increased shotgun damage), or get "investment opportunities". 

Not everyone can be counted upon to play the DLCs.  Certainly they cannot be counted upon to play ALL of them.  They CANNOT play a major role in the core game.  Remember, you can win ME2 without picking up Zaeed, Kasumi, etc.  DLCs are not core to the game plot and playthrough.  They are nice to have along and fun to play through but they do nothing of real note to the core plot of the game.  NOTHING you do can alter the fundamentals of the story.  You cannot end ME2 with a dead Shepard and import that game into ME3 (official - a dead shepard game cannot be imported into ME3 - you MUST successfully complete ME2 to import).  ME3 will start with an ALIVE Shepard with the Collector base handed over to Cerberus or not (this cannot be important on any core level or you would not be allowed to make the decision - it may lead to some fancy weapon or armor for you in ME3 but that's it...or setup a nice DLC for ME3). 

Your actions through the entire game alter nothing core.  They merely alter how people react to your character or who your LI is.  They alter side stories at best but affect nothing at all that is core.  The end result is identical with just the flavoring/seasoning you put on it (your choices) being different. 

Modifié par Getorex, 01 avril 2011 - 02:10 .


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Removed for being mundane.

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hey i just downloaded it on the 360 but can seem to find the mission anywhere on the map or in my unread messages... do you need to finish the main story of the game before you can access this DLC? if so thats really upsetting cuz i'm in the middle of a play through and already knowing the whole main story i was just hoping to be able to play this DLC and finish the rest of the play through later.

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Normandy30 wrote...

hey i just downloaded it on the 360 but can seem to find the mission anywhere on the map or in my unread messages... do you need to finish the main story of the game before you can access this DLC? if so thats really upsetting cuz i'm in the middle of a play through and already knowing the whole main story i was just hoping to be able to play this DLC and finish the rest of the play through later.


You can access it after Horizon!

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Jigster1 wrote...

Normandy30 wrote...

hey i just downloaded it on the 360 but can seem to find the mission anywhere on the map or in my unread messages... do you need to finish the main story of the game before you can access this DLC? if so thats really upsetting cuz i'm in the middle of a play through and already knowing the whole main story i was just hoping to be able to play this DLC and finish the rest of the play through later.


You can access it after Horizon!

Alright thank you thats mission isn't too far away i believe

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Also the mission is in the far south east region of the galaxy map, it took me a few seconds to actually spot it.

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thank you very much guys! And i'm not expecting this to be like LotSB since it was only 700mb and only 7 bucks, but we'll see. Once again thanks for all the help!

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Well... finally figured out how to get it. Frankly, the local EA management could not be able to give me free BW points, so I have decided to invest my own money. Because it is Mass Effect it always worth it. The only matter is the quality tho. What is this? I was totally disappointed... After such great DLCs like Overlord or Shadow Broker (not to mention Kasumi).. It was short, what is okay. But the story was linear. No choice. No other way. Dialogs were way simple than in the normal game. Two major scenes so far (the colony and the asteroid). Come on BW... you can do better.

I'm still going to be one of the biggest fans. But I rather forget this thing...

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MagoRRR wrote...

Well... finally figured out how to get it. Frankly, the local EA management could not be able to give me free BW points, so I have decided to invest my own money. Because it is Mass Effect it always worth it. The only matter is the quality tho. What is this? I was totally disappointed... After such great DLCs like Overlord or Shadow Broker (not to mention Kasumi).. It was short, what is okay. But the story was linear. No choice. No other way. Dialogs were way simple than in the normal game. Two major scenes so far (the colony and the asteroid). Come on BW... you can do better.

I'm still going to be one of the biggest fans. But I rather forget this thing...


It's just a bone tossed to fans to keep them "in the game".  Most of their peeps are working on ME3 so you should understand that having people work on "old news" ME2 is a bit of a loser, corporately speaking.

You can always start over from scratch in a couple months or so with ME1 and work your way straight through ME2 plus all the DLC missions and, if timed right, set yourself up for playing ME3 at the holidays.  

If you put enough space between yourself and the game (perhaps play something else for a while) you can come back and find a little bit of freshness again.  I got a kick out of playing ME1 again after spending lots of time on ME2 because I had forgotten certain details and the gameplay was different enough...I could then play through and continue with ME2 at that point with some enthusiasm.   

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It's no LotSB, but It's an alright DLC.

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Non spoiler review:

The good: The battles are good, especially since it is a solo mission. The base looks good, a hint of ME1 in some of the design, perhaps. Lance Henriksen is great. The implications for ME3 are intriguing.

The bad: It's too short. It feels rushed. There are many bugs, especially w/ biotics. Some character's lip syn is off, (the doctor's mouth moves like she has had a stroke). Cut and paste mercs. The body textures are very bad. A lot of the dialogue is static, meaning the player doesn't get to chose many responses. Certain characters who should talk, don't. Finally, I get why there are no big choices in this DLC, still I feel there was a discontent between Shepard and the "big event."

Summery: Despite its flaws, and there are many, I still like this DLC. I think it's because Shep is in the lead and I always thought s/he was sidelined in the main game. That said, I would only recommend it to the most die hard ME fan as certainly the implications of the pack will be dealt w/ in ME3. I give it a 7/10.

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Well, that was a bit underwhelming. But I have to say that the last time I played ME2 was right before the ME3 announcement and thus I was not as connected to the universe as I would have been if I played it back then. Also, LotSB set the bar rather high and I was kind of expecting another DLC of that quality (mainly because it's the last DLC).

On a sidenote:
Did the speaker for Joker change in the German version? I was quite confused when I heard his voice in the pick-me-up scene.

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So... No Terminus Armor and Blackstorm availability for PC or XBox owners? Only PS3, and certain PC and XBox players got it? I won't be buying this, or ME3.
PC and Xbox owners had to make a choice as to which pre-order DLC we would get, and one of those choices was made available to all players, but not both. I am thoroughly disappointed. I shouldn't have to hack my game so that I can have everything.

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HCS01 wrote...

So... No Terminus Armor and Blackstorm availability for PC or XBox owners? Only PS3, and certain PC and XBox players got it? I won't be buying this, or ME3.
PC and Xbox owners had to make a choice as to which pre-order DLC we would get, and one of those choices was made available to all players, but not both. I am thoroughly disappointed. I shouldn't have to hack my game so that I can have everything.


I totally agree, if I had the chance, I would get every piece of frickin' armour and doodadery in the game, given the chance. But that's the way the pre-order-game-store-economics cookie crumbles :D And in the end, most of that stuff doesn't seem to make a huge amount of difference gameplay-wise. Lovin' my Collector Assault Rifle Collectors' Edition bonus, though!

Thanks to getorex for the advice on the previous page:)

Wait a cotton pickin' minute... isn't this the official forum for ME announcements?:D

Modifié par SoloNerfherder, 02 avril 2011 - 03:42 .


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Axx Bytehoven wrote...


Now I'm waiting on the clock to run down to see the alternate ending.



Anybody try this?

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Axx Bytehoven

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MassEffect762 wrote...

Axx Bytehoven wrote...


Now I'm waiting on the clock to run down to see the alternate ending.



Anybody try this?


Yes, you need to wait the full 1 hour 45 minutes, and then there is a quick cuts vision sequence similar to the Shepard artifact sequences.  It goes by so quick, you would have to record it and slow it down to see the frames more clearly.

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 I just do this because I'm wating for MS3

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HCS01 wrote...

So... No Terminus Armor and Blackstorm availability for PC or XBox owners? Only PS3, and certain PC and XBox players got it? I won't be buying this, or ME3.
PC and Xbox owners had to make a choice as to which pre-order DLC we would get, and one of those choices was made available to all players, but not both. I am thoroughly disappointed. I shouldn't have to hack my game so that I can have everything.

We've likely not got all the DLC yet. Judging by the PS3 copy of the game along with what DLC we have now, I'm guessing we're still going to get a few more cheap gear/costume packs, so it's entirely possible that Terminus will arrive in a pack. 

We've still not been given Mass Effect: Genesis, either.

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Interesting, what will be in ME3 if import saves from ME2 without this DLC... its mean that nobody stop 2 days counter instead of months... and ME3 may be start like the alternative end of Arrival :DDDD

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I believe Shepard will have gone through the events of LotSB and Arrival regardless. If you didn't get the DLC, it just means you didn't get to participate; everything happened "off-camera", so to speak.

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Arrival still not available on PSN Singapore.... :(

Do I have to use a US account to download??

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I think BioWare thought that this is where they want the story to go leading into ME3, and instead of telling us what happened or having this be the beginning of ME3, they put it as dlc so we can play it. Tha'ts why there's hardly any choices. Really, the only choice we have in this dlc is which merc to shoot first.

I'm not complaining, I'm forgiving BioWare for the fact that this dlc is pretty pointless other than the fact that it's setting up ME3 and they wanted to be nice and let us play it instead of telling us what happened.

...I feel like I'm rambling now...going to bed before I start to not make very a lot of no sense....

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Finished this tonight, interesting and challenging experience playing solo Shep but as many others pointed out, the overall standard of this DLC isn't quite up to its immediate quest-DLC predecessor.

Still, it was enlightening to see how things have been set up for the beginning of ME3.

Given the rather long length of time between the launch of Arrival and the launch of ME3 (presumedly late 2011), I wonder if BW might be tempted, despite previous denials, to squeeze out one more DLC close to ME3's launch date to drum up interest.

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Short but well done. Was expecting a little more out of it, but I suppose it's a decent way to transition into mass effect 3. But if because of this i end up going to jail after me3 I'm gonna be pissed. I had no choice but to kill those people so...yeah. Was hoping to see some old faces, but i guess Hackett is good enough.
I better see kaiden in me3 though ;)

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I ind it strange that people expect this to be as good as LotSB, considering the pric difference and all. I don't think Arrival is amazing, but considering the price tag attached to it I do think it's good bang for your buck.