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[tanerb123]

Since i had to leave Kirkwall at the end of the game, levaing my estate etc... wouldnt it be more appropriate to call it rise and fall from power? Actually i never had the power to begin with. Yes, champion so what? Not even a governor or something. Kirkwall is collapsed anyway. What is the point? No one will remember the name Hawke in couple months.

[Nerivant]

tanerb123 wrote...
No one will remember the name Hawke in couple months.

Except that a couple of months later, people are trying to track Hawke down because they believe that he/she is the only person who can stop the coming war.

Game, set, match. Good day, ser.

[Herr Uhl]

Nerivant wrote...

tanerb123 wrote...
No one will remember the name Hawke in couple months.

Except that a couple of months later, people are trying to track Hawke down because they believe that he/she is the only person who can stop the coming war.

Game, set, match. Good day, ser.

Not months, years.

[Nerivant]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nerivant wrote...

tanerb123 wrote...
No one will remember the name Hawke in couple months.

Except that a couple of months later, people are trying to track Hawke down because they believe that he/she is the only person who can stop the coming war.

Game, set, match. Good day, ser.

Not months, years.

Was it? Could have sworn it was less than a year.

Oh well, thanks for the heads-up.

[tanerb123]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nerivant wrote...

tanerb123 wrote...
No one will remember the name Hawke in couple months.

Except that a couple of months later, people are trying to track Hawke down because they believe that he/she is the only person who can stop the coming war.

Game, set, match. Good day, ser.

Not months, years.

Not years, decades

[raymonddhj]

This is why the hero of DAO will probably not be the star of DA3 because the taint will have him by then. I can only imagine the bitter Carver/Bethany that we run into with the taint slowly killing them.

[Arppis]

Yeah, "Rise to power" wasn't really what I had in mind when I played this game. More like get halfway and then fall down again. Good game, but the commercial catch phrase was really misleading.

[Lithuasil]

Well, Hawke is a ferelden refugee.
She has a big fancy house, possibly becomes Viscount, or sails off with a few dozen angry apostates. All the other ferelden refugees still sit in Darktown, begging for coin.

I do see *some* rising there

[Lord Gremlin]

Lithuasil wrote...

Well, Hawke is a ferelden refugee.
She has a big fancy house, possibly becomes Viscount, or sails off with a few dozen angry apostates. All the other ferelden refugees still sit in Darktown, begging for coin.

I do see *some* rising there

Hm, in my experience she ran off with Anders and apostates sailed by themselves.
Well, you can consider Anders "power", considering what he is.


And I'm pretty sure all those refugees are no longer begging for anything - they've been eviscerated by abominations when **** hit the fan.

[Lithuasil]

Given me and Merill were going to sail off with Isabella, I'm just assuming we took Carver and the rest of the circle along, since the game doesn't mention them.

Most dangerous pirate crew *ever* :|

[The Angry One]

They call it rise to power because "rise to relatively decent affluence" looks bad on trailers.

[Camenae]

The Angry One wrote...

They call it rise to power because "rise to relatively decent affluence" looks bad on trailers.

lol.

[Lianaar]

We can safely claim that Hawke for the better or worse, willing or accidentally, made a name for him or herself. Or others (eyes Varric) made a name for her.

[Arppis]

Lianaar wrote...

We can safely claim that Hawke for the better or worse, willing or accidentally, made a name for him or herself. Or others (eyes Varric) made a name for him.

Fixed it for you. No need to thank me, friend.

[Halo Quea]

Yeah, the so called "Rise to Power" was nothing more than a hook to a marketing campaign. Hawke rules absolutely nothing in Kirkwall and pretty much continues to be an errand boy/sword for coin mercenary even after he's given the empty title of Champion.

If anything, it seemed to me that people wanted to kill Hawke even more after he's named Champion. I couldn't get anyone to slow down and listen. I would walk up to a group of people and they would just go blood drunk at the sight of me. Mages would flip out into Abominations and Templars would start falling from the sky!

The only person who paused was Thrask, and I had thought, "finally!" But Grace lost her mind before I could even use the dialogue wheel and there was no option to talk her down. All I could do is watch Thrask get killed.

The title commands very little respect, and zero authority.

[silver-crescent]

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

[Statulos]

To give a quick example of how to represent this "rags to riches" theme, Neverwinter Nights 2 delivers a better fleshed out experience.

I still think the script from DA2 is better than NW2, however, you see the progression of your character far better.

[Halo Quea]

silver-crescent wrote...

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

Really?  What was your first command as Viscount?

[AlexXIV]

You're getting told that you are one of the most important people, but you never feel it. Neither do you have any real power other than killing mobs. Or can anyone tell me one of these big decisions Hawke makes that show how powerful he/she is?

[silver-crescent]

Halo Quea wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

Really?  What was your first command as Viscount?

I wouldn't know, I haven't done the templar ending yet.

But regardless, Hawke goes from refugee ->mercenary (of sorts) -> important member of society -> champion -> possibly viscount and partially responible for the most important thing to happen in Thedas since the blight.

[TJPags]

Halo Quea wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

Really?  What was your first command as Viscount?

"Isabela, get the damn boat ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We're outta here!!!!!!!!!"

Seriously . . .empty title given after Act 2, that makes absolutely nobody listen to you, and only increases the number of rioting mobs of both mundane and blood mage lunatics on the streets at night.

[AlexXIV]

silver-crescent wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

Really?  What was your first command as Viscount?

I wouldn't know, I haven't done the templar ending yet.

But regardless, Hawke goes from refugee ->mercenary (of sorts) -> important member of society -> champion -> possibly viscount and partially responible for the most important thing to happen in Thedas since the blight.

You're listing titles. Titles don't hold power unless they do.

[silver-crescent]

TJPags wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

Really?  What was your first command as Viscount?

"Isabela, get the damn boat ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We're outta here!!!!!!!!!"

Seriously . . .empty title given after Act 2, that makes absolutely nobody listen to you, and only increases the number of rioting mobs of both mundane and blood mage lunatics on the streets at night.

How does nobody listen to you when you have the viscount, the leader of the circle, the leader of the chantry and the leader of the templars all wanting your help 

[silver-crescent]

AlexXIV wrote...
You're listing titles. Titles don't hold power unless they do.

The populace talks about Hawke's adventures and admire him

And you have all the main political parties looking for his help

I don't get it, do you people really feel like NPCs treat Hawke the same way in act 1 and in act 3 or something?

[TJPags]

silver-crescent wrote...

TJPags wrote...

Halo Quea wrote...

silver-crescent wrote...

You go from being a refugee running from the blight to being one of the most important people in Kirkwall, and in the end you can even become viscount. If that's not a rise to power than I don't know what is.

Really?  What was your first command as Viscount?

"Isabela, get the damn boat ready!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  We're outta here!!!!!!!!!"

Seriously . . .empty title given after Act 2, that makes absolutely nobody listen to you, and only increases the number of rioting mobs of both mundane and blood mage lunatics on the streets at night.

How does nobody listen to you when you have the viscount, the leader of the circle, the leader of the chantry and the leader of the templars all wanting your help 

Because they don't?

Tell me - who DID listen to your Hawke?  Because I need to go find those people . . .they weren't in my game.