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[Hrodric]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

Sarcastic does not work for every character I play. I had my angry mage that mellowed into sarcastic, my noble warrior was a peace maker who showed occasional wit, and now my sweet rogue who goes all "Rawrrr" when it comes to blood mages. I can imagine that using only one approach could get tiresome, but I just don't play that way.

^ This.

Sarcasm and dry wit are mother's milk. But, it's all a real-estate problem: location, location, location.

A good banter with friends is nice, but playing the joker with heads of state (viscount, Arishok)? It makes one look like a tool.

Or playing sarcastic as your dead mother lies on your lap? Really? 

[The Angry One]

The sarcastic line with mother works, Hawke delivers it with sad irony. Well femHawke does anyway.
The one with the Viscount on his son's death is just being an ass, but then playing a sarcastic character doesn't mean you take the purple option 100% of the time.

With the Arishok? Pft, mockery is the least that oaf deserves.

[ToJKa1]

Funnily enough, my sarcastic Rogue was the only one he deemed worthy of a duel

Sarcastic Rogue (default face) Lady Hake, so much win!

[Nukenin]

My mage uses the "good" responses unless a "charming" (purple gem) response is available.

Your overall disposition (influenced greatly by the first choice you make) can allegedly change, though you'd have to really slant your responses to the new disposition. (This may be easiest after the passage of time between acts when the counters are allegedly reset.)

The overall disposition tends to govern how you respond or speak when you're not working from a dialogue wheel choice. So even if you mix and match trying to play Hawke as you fancy he or she would respond given your interpretation of her or his role, that first choice (I guess to your sibling in the Prologue) will likely be what determines how your Hawke talks when not under your direction.

[Arppis]

Hrodric wrote...

Patriciachr34 wrote...

Sarcastic does not work for every character I play. I had my angry mage that mellowed into sarcastic, my noble warrior was a peace maker who showed occasional wit, and now my sweet rogue who goes all "Rawrrr" when it comes to blood mages. I can imagine that using only one approach could get tiresome, but I just don't play that way.

^ This.

Sarcasm and dry wit are mother's milk. But, it's all a real-estate problem: location, location, location.

A good banter with friends is nice, but playing the joker with heads of state (viscount, Arishok)? It makes one look like a tool.

Or playing sarcastic as your dead mother lies on your lap? Really? 

Ofcourse. Humor is the best way to deal with grief. It's a nice self-preservation mechanic.

[Nukenin]

The Angry One wrote...

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The one with the Viscount on his son's death is just being an ass, but then playing a sarcastic character doesn't mean you take the purple option 100% of the time.
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It doesn't mean you have to take the purple option 100% of the time.

That said, until you hear exactly what Hawke says taking that purple option is a crapshoot.  

[Arppis]

Nukenin wrote...

The Angry One wrote...

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The one with the Viscount on his son's death is just being an ass, but then playing a sarcastic character doesn't mean you take the purple option 100% of the time.
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It doesn't mean you have to take the purple option 100% of the time.

That said, until you hear exactly what Hawke says taking that purple option is a crapshoot.  

Made me gringe at first, but then I laughed.

[Herakleia]

For my second playthrough, after my first Paladin Hawke, I chose to play a sarcastic or rude Hawke.

I tried making a male Hawke for the second go around, but I just didn't like the voice as well. So I scrubbed that one and made a femHawke with different hair and a different face. I played with different companions, using Anders a lot more, but I still rely on Aveline. I use Fenris for anything to do with the Qunari, but he replaces Isabela rather than Aveline.

And so I found myself making a lot of similar choices. The mage underground still has a lot more quest hooks than the templars do. I got a "better" outcome with the Qunari mage from Sister Petrice than I did with Good Hawke. I probably still will take responsibility and avoid massacring the Dalish, unless they drop uber loot. I was startled to learn that if you take Anders along on the quest to defeat the insane Bartrand, he can temporarily restore his sanity and give you the option of not killing him.

[Addai]

MoogleNut wrote...

I don't know about anyw one else, but the more I play this game, the more i'm coming to appreciate the depth of character that's possible with the personality types.

Unlike the Mass Effect system which shoe-horns you into the paragon/renegade route, I've found that in DA2 it's easily possible to craft yourself an great character who's both irreverent and honorable/noble at the same time. Or even rude yet noble etc since your actions define your moraily rather than your responses most of the time.

Um, yeah, ran out of brain juice now, but anyone else get what I mean?

See I felt like I got a similar effect by playing a renegon Shepard- mostly renegade on missions, often paragon in personal dealings with her crew.  I can't stand to play a full paragon Shepard.  It's such a bore.  Renegade Shepard is fun, though, and often funny.

The great part about sarcastic Hawke is that the only person who thinks she's funny is herself, though occasionally she gets a chuckle from Fenris or Varric.  Everyone else in Kirkwall looks at her like she's either lost her mind or is a complete cad.  I love it.

One advantage to diplomatic Hawke is that you get peaceful quest solutions that aren't even available on the others, such as telling the refugees that confront you outside the Fereldan store that you're just as Fereldan as they are.

[GenericPlayer2]

I love the sarcasm options, some of the best lines come from it! It is ironic though because I hated Alistair in Origins, and yet the sarcasm dialogue (which I like) reminds me of him.

[TheBlackBaron]

Hrodric wrote...

^ This.

Sarcasm and dry wit are mother's milk. But, it's all a real-estate problem: location, location, location.

A good banter with friends is nice, but playing the joker with heads of state (viscount, Arishok)? It makes one look like a tool.

Or playing sarcastic as your dead mother lies on your lap? Really? 

I don't recall the sarcastic line to cap off All That Remains as being particularly out of place, but of course you mix it up a little if you want to roleplay as soemthing like a real person. I remember several occassions where my Hawke would slide into furious vengeance mode, like when Beth gets taken in Act III. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 29 mars 2011 - 07:38 .

[Parrk]

I wish I could forget all of her lines so that I could experience the sarcastic win again for the first time.

"We could raise him as the undead....then kill him again if you like"



"Just use some of that blood magic he taught ou and he'll be up and walking around in no time."

No wonder Grace was left so bitter by that encounter....lol

[Back2basics]

The sarcastic dialogue is by far my favorite too, I can't stop using it now cause its so funny. I started off doing the top choice (diplomatic) my first play through then went sarcastic with a femhawke my 2nd and now doing another sarcastic play through with a male hawke and let me say that the sarcastic dialogue is much better voiced on the female side! You can really tell a difference in all of her different tones but with the male hawke they all kind of sound the same

[Rheia]

Sometimes I think it is about which personality you played first. It sticks with you, and others pale a little in compason. I too played a predominantely snarky female Hawke (with a dose of diplomacy or agressiveness when i felt it was relevant) and consequent playthroughs with different personality felt a little lacking.

[Meathooks333]

I played a diplomatic/helpful male Hawke the first time through, although I did pick other options at points I found them appropriate. Hawke got angry, made jokes, all of that. But the diplomatic overtone kind of upset me sometimes, "Let's make Kirkwall a better place, for everyone!" I really wanted to punch myself in the face every time I heard my character say this. Why does a nice guy have to be a Disney cartoon?

Not sure why everyone's using the term "sarcastic" when they mean humorous. Maybe "humorous Hawke" sounds funny because of the alliteration. Hawke is only making sarcastic remarks about 25% of the time you pick the laughing mask icon. The other purple option is supposed to be a charming option, not necessarily funny at all, although sometimes it can crack a smile.

[Parrk]

I think it may be more than that. I think that the snarky choice is pretty much superior. It is the only option that offers a really interesting mix of reactions.

Diplomacy: "ok, you're right" or "let's fight"
Direct: "ok, i'm scurd-a-you" or "let's fight"

snarky: "this is no time for joking" "I hate you" "you are so inappropriate" "I can't beleive you said that" "you're so funny" "let's fight".

Maybe I'm jsut imagining it, but wise-cracking hawke seems to draw a far wider range of reactions. It is like a box of choc-o-litz, you never know what you gonna get.


Sometimes she will say something so inapropriate, that I feel a tinge of nervousness.  Maybe I'm just socially awkward, idk.

For example, when you tell Ariana "Abominations are so awkward at family reunions".    rofl  I actually felt really bad for having said that.  I never felt bad saying "ok...i so diplomatic...lets compromise"   or "everyone dies!".

Modifié par Parrk, 29 mars 2011 - 08:03 .

[Addai]

The diplomatic line that bothers me is "Andraste guide you" as a battle cry. I want my sarcastic Hawke to pipe up and say "because you're goin to the Makerrr".

[Back2basics]

Parrk wrote...

I think it may be more than that. I think that the snarky choice is pretty much superior. It is the only option that offers a really interesting mix of reactions.

Diplomacy: "ok, you're right" or "let's fight"
Direct: "ok, i'm scurd-a-you" or "let's fight"

snarky: "this is no time for joking" "I hate you" "you are so inappropriate" "I can't beleive you said that" "you're so funny" "let's fight".

Maybe I'm jsut imagining it, but wise-cracking hawke seems to draw a far wider range of reactions. It is like a box of choc-o-litz, you never know what you gonna get.

This is true, some of the best npc reactions come from sarcastic hawke. One that sticks out is macha in front of the chantry.
Macha - "Can you find my brother?"
Hawke- "Dont worry, helping people and killing people is what I do best"
Macha- Ummm, I ummmm, I hope thats not necessary. 

[Camilladilla]

Even when I'm supposed to be RPing as a good or mean Hawke there are just some purple options I just can't resist. The one that comes to mind is the "Oops" option with the Desire Demon in the Fade mainly for the text itself rather than the actual line.

[Jman5]

Rage-Hawke is the best Hawke.

The companion conversations are hilariously bitter and negative. Carver and Rage-Hawke's conversations are the best, but the ones with Isabella get pretty nasty too (you straight up call her a ****). With Merrill you're such a complete and utter jerk to her, you can't help but laugh.

[Pacifien]

Kudos to the writers for trying to write a protagonist who didn't have to play the straight man to another party member's comedy.

[Parrk]

Camilladilla wrote...

Even when I'm supposed to be RPing as a good or mean Hawke there are just some purple options I just can't resist. The one that comes to mind is the "Oops" option with the Desire Demon in the Fade mainly for the text itself rather than the actual line.

"I meant to help...honest"


Also, on the other side of that building when you choose witty response you get "Have you seen an abomination?  They are ug-ly."

[SovereignofDeath]

I don't really like the sarcastic choices, they're pretty annoying. I usually stick with blunt/angry responses. It may not be as badass as renegade choices in ME 1 and 2 but it's better than nothing.

[FFLB]

The sarcastic/humorous/comedic/jokester Hawke was definitely entertaining. That's probably a part of why I enjoyed the game overall. Outside of Hawke, there wasn't really an Alistair or Awakening Anders type of character, so I can see how dull it must've felt to some players if they played the straight shooter type.

The scene with King Alistair, Anders, and Hawke is pretty amusing if only for their smug looks like they're basking in the self-presumed genius of their own wit.

Anyway, it was nice to play a character who didn't really seem to care much about the bigger picture.