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[rma2110]

My Hawke was law abiding do gooder who always looked after his mother and sister. As much as he loved his family the responsibility was a little chafing at times. Isabella got him to loosen up a little and learn to stop worrying and have some fun. As Hawke's life became darker and darker he needed any spark of darkness he could find, and Isabella seemed just the right fit.

I adore Merrill but my Hawke needs someone who will stand up to him if need be. I also love the fact that Isabella doesn't care about the whole mages versus templars thing. I was so sick of the whole thing that I was ready to choke anyone who so much as mentions it by act 3. Isabella also has a kind heart, and it shows in the way she treats Merrill.

Plus, who hasn't dreamed of sailing away with the person you love the most? Anyone who can get Aveline to loosen up is my hero

Modifié par rma2110, 31 mars 2011 - 04:18 .

[Corto81]

Isabela's the only option to me, tbh.

I tried everything else, but:
- Aveline is more of a buddy if she's in the party
- Merill is just immature and irritating and has the cognitive process of a 12 year old

Isabela is sane (!) - as opposed to some other options, funny, hot, independent, etc.
Only character you don't have to babysit in your romance.

[freyafolk]

Funny this. The way I see it (over several playthroughs with both genders), Isabela is the only romance option Hawke *could* realistically be with based on how his/her character comes across when I play. Maybe that's partly down to the fact I can't resist making the odd quip. I've yet to have a totally po-faced run-through.

Merril and Anders are way too needy, as others have said, Hawke has enough responsibilities already. Fenris is just too prefjudiced and it would always be a road block at some point (not to mention a massive turn-off). Given that s/he comes from a family of apostates I can't see Hawke ever towing the Chantry line enough to get on with Sebastian.

Isabela, on the other hand, seems like a good complement. She's not an extremist one way or the other. She's not an extra pressure in his life, she's funny and would know how to have fun. I can imagine Hawke going for a drink with Isabela: a date in public with any of the others seems like a disaster waiting-to-happen. A lot of people are put off by the suggestion of an STD and the fact she supposedly gets around. Fair enough. Personally, I would judge that less harshly than consorting with demons, murder and bigotry.

Also, Isabela is the only one you can really influence for the better. Although she starts off selfish she comes back and does the right thing. Fenris never becomes well-adjusted and tolerant. Anders does what he does no matter what and Merril takes blood magic to its tragic end.

I concede that it's not the most romantic of relationships and could be better developed but I would say the same of all the romances in DA2 compared to Origins.

Modifié par freyafolk, 31 mars 2011 - 12:49 .

[aluanira]

I romanced Isabela as a FemHawke (married female IRL) because she's funny, sexy, confident and speaks her mind which is what my smart-ass warrior FemHawke wants. Fenris is sour and moody, Anders drives her mad with his whining and Merrill is too naive so Isabela it is. She's the one most suited to my Hawke for this play-through.

With my other play-throughs, I had Isabela at high friendship level anyway. I just like the character.

[TheAwesomologist]

On my first play through I had intended to go as canon as possible. Play a male Mage Hawke and romance Isabella. That didn't work out. Now I love Isabella's banter and her story line is fantastic. She's easy to become friends with and her input is usually sound.

But she's dirty, and if it weren't for Anders, diseased... One would think "So what? Its a video game! You get to sleep with the dirty girl and have no consequences!" But they just keep reinforcing it. It's not the sexualized humor that turns me off, some of her conversations with Varric are great, and her "sex tips" to Aveline are priceless. However she keeps hitting on Fenris, right in front of me (or behind me, whatever), or any other guy that presents himself to be available. In the end it all added up and my mostly good Hawke couldn't go for more than a one night fling. So in sticking with his morals Hawke ended up with Merrill.

Right so then the second play through starts up. This time it's 2H Warrior Male Hawke... and the same thing. I just couldn't bring myself around to it. Maybe the writers just hit the nail on the head when it came to Merrill for me, or maybe they successfully created a female character who's sexuality was so free and easy that it turned into a turn off. I like Isabella the person (always end up friendly and she's obviously jealous of Merrill) but Isabella the lover? Well maybe snarky Rogue Hawke won't mind a little crotch rot. Third time's the charm right?

This game really needed a 3rd female romance option. I would have gladly gone with Aveline if given that choice, even though I love how she's really the only character who seems to have a career and life outside of helping Hawke.

Modifié par TheAwesomologist, 31 mars 2011 - 02:20 .

[Hhoal]

I can imagine Hawke going for a drink with Isabela: a date in public
with any of the others seems like a disaster waiting-to-happen.

This made me laugh.
Anders: What?!! That's all you're going to tip?! *angry Justice vengeance inserted here*

Fenris: I'm not just some pet you can parade around in front of everyone! I have feeeeeelings. I'm going home. *pouts*

Merrill: Drink? Sure, I'll have chocolate milk. Ooooh, you mean a driiink.

Isabella, as foolhardy as she is, is definitely the only one who actually lives her life with her only agenda being make sure she stays on top. Har har. I've seduced her, and it was the best cut scene of the lot, fun and feisty, just the way I like it.

Modifié par Hhoal, 08 avril 2011 - 03:08 .

[AgentWhale]

Well... my play-through has come to a brick wall, because I can't decide who to romance; Isabela or Merrill.

At first my plan was to romance Merrill because she is cute, funny and adorable. Isabela seemed a little too independent and carefree, while Merrill needs some love being seperated from her clan and doing potentially dangerous magic experiments

Then Isabela comes along for a roll in the hay, and I'm like "sure why not..." Then I see the ****** in her armour, she has a heart hidden in there.

Cut to later, Merrill has turned up at the mansion, and I don't know what to do.

*Exits game*

[hoorayforicecream]

Save game. Play through twice. By the way... I heavily recommend bringing Merrill and/or Aveline in the party if you plan on romancing Isabela. Their banters give you a lot of insight into her character.

[Maria Caliban]

Romance Merrill first. Then romance Isabela.

[ReallyRue]

Isabela's beautiful, light-hearted, friendly, and compassionate whilst still being practical. Most of the other party members spend their time being serious or broody, but she always has something amusing to say. But she can be surprisingly profound too. I noticed that in some of her party banters with Anders and a couple of the others.

I prefered her to Merrill, I think. Merrill was lovely, but a little too submissive (less so on a femHawke playthrough though).

[shumworld]

Can someone explain the difference between a Rivalmance with Isabella versus one as a friendship.

[22nd MadJack]

ReallyRue wrote...
I prefered her to Merrill, I think. Merrill was lovely, but a little too submissive (less so on a femHawke playthrough though).

Merrill may be submissive, but at least she isn't so loose that I'd have reservations leaving her alone with my dog.

Modifié par 22nd MadJack, 08 avril 2011 - 05:42 .

[hoorayforicecream]

shumworld wrote...

Can someone explain the difference between a Rivalmance with Isabella versus one as a friendship.

Friendship means you agree on things. Isabela's about having fun, living in the moment, and doing things that feel good. A friendship with her means you value similar things.

Rivalry with Isabela is about taking the high road and being an honestly good person in every situation. She finds it boring and not fun, but the goal is to inspire her to want to be a better person than what she is... and she eventually comes around. It's kind of similar to one of her banters with Sebastian, Hawke tries to lead by example, and raises expectations of her.

I personally prefer the friendship romance, but the rivalry one isn't bad. There's just fewer opportunities for flirting on the rivalry path.

[Gilsa]

I didn't intend to romance Isabela on my aggressive F!Hawke playthrough (had a different companion in mind), but I was charmed by how Isabela used humor to defuse an awkward situation during her apology after the Fade. I took a second look and went for her instead. Added Aveline to the group and had three women who spoke their minds and didn't mince words. Everyone felt on equal footing. I understood Isabela's approach of keeping people at a distance -- that's the kind of thing that can wear down over time. She can act like she doesn't care, but you know she does. ("It's all your fault that I'm doing the right thing!") Her vulnerability in Act 3 hit me the most because they were both strong, outspoken women -- pretty much on equal footing -- but Hawke had gone on to be the great big hero of the city while Isabela was just a common thief. Why would someone like Isabela have a chance with Hawke? I liked how she struggled to find the words to say that she had fallen for Hawke and thanked Hawke for being so patient with her. The waiting paid off! =p

[hoorayforicecream]

Gilsa wrote...

I didn't intend to romance Isabela on my aggressive F!Hawke playthrough (had a different companion in mind), but I was charmed by how Isabela used humor to defuse an awkward situation during her apology after the Fade. I took a second look and went for her instead. Added Aveline to the group and had three women who spoke their minds and didn't mince words. Everyone felt on equal footing. I understood Isabela's approach of keeping people at a distance -- that's the kind of thing that can wear down over time. She can act like she doesn't care, but you know she does. ("It's all your fault that I'm doing the right thing!") Her vulnerability in Act 3 hit me the most because they were both strong, outspoken women -- pretty much on equal footing -- but Hawke had gone on to be the great big hero of the city while Isabela was just a common thief. Why would someone like Isabela have a chance with Hawke? I liked how she struggled to find the words to say that she had fallen for Hawke and thanked Hawke for being so patient with her. The waiting paid off! =p

I'm a cruel, cruel person. I made Isabela take the first step when she came over for sexy time, and I even chose the "I'm making you uncomfortable, I should go" option when she was trying to confess her feelings. Her reactions were so cute though... and I totally felt like it was something my snarky femHawke would do to play with Isabela a bit.

[Gilsa]

LOL, I did the same. I was getting fed up with her antics since she wasn't forthcoming about Castillon and the boat thing. I almost told her to take her boat and go, but we're sitting in the bar while she's trying to find the words and I'm thinking, "She's gonna have to work for it." So I picked the "I should go" option. I was enjoying it on a tough love level, y'know? =p

[Magicman10893]

I do Isabela, at least as a fling, in every playthrough for the lulz if nothing else. I mean it's like a recurring joke. First my Mage Warden has an orgy with her, Leliana and Zevran and then his cousin, Hawke, bones her AND has a threesome with Zevran.

Maybe in the next DA game we can play as another distant relative of Hawke or the Warden with Isabela available to bone in a ****house again. Hell I'd even pay 20 sovereigns if it meant she slept with practically everyone of importance in the same family.

I can't wait until the eventual meeting with Hawke and the Warden and to see the look on his face when he sees his little cousin (maybe, I don't know how old they are) with the **** he boned a decade ago with his girlfriend and friend. Then the hilarious antics that come up when Zevran also meets up with everyone and the startling realization of what has happened. Then the hilarious five person orgy that ensues after.

[Lestatman]

I first enjoyed my Hawke having a romance with Isabella and thought it was sweet when she sits you down and basically says she's falling for you but then we meet Zevran and she's happy to go into the bushes with him and even tho you can ask her not to I didn't like it. Even in game I'd prefer my characters romances to be monogomist. So I'd prefer other romances more especially Merrill's romance.

[hoorayforicecream]

Lestatman wrote...

I first enjoyed my Hawke having a romance with Isabella and thought it was sweet when she sits you down and basically says she's falling for you but then we meet Zevran and she's happy to go into the bushes with him and even tho you can ask her not to I didn't like it. Even in game I'd prefer my characters romances to be monogomist. So I'd prefer other romances more especially Merrill's romance.

I thought about that particular incident for a while. Originally I wasn't too pleased with it and considered that it might be a mistake, or just something they didn't have a chance to cover during development. However, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that, to Isabela, sex is like a snack you have when you're hungry, and has about as much emotional commitment. When Zevran shows up, it's a snack she's not had in a while that she enjoyed. If she's with Hawke, she does what couples do when there's a snack on the table - she offered to share it. If I offered my girlfriend a snack and she turned it down, I wouldn't feel bad about eating it myself. If my girlfriend asked me not to eat it, I wouldn't eat it either... but I'd probably say "But I'm hungry". And if she said it was fine to share the snack, we'd share the snack.

I eventually wrote a short fan fiction piece about this attitude. I understand that not everyone has that same view, and it's fine to have it that way, but I thought that it might be an interesting facet of the character to bring up.

[obnoxiousgas]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Lestatman wrote...

I first enjoyed my Hawke having a romance with Isabella and thought it was sweet when she sits you down and basically says she's falling for you but then we meet Zevran and she's happy to go into the bushes with him and even tho you can ask her not to I didn't like it. Even in game I'd prefer my characters romances to be monogomist. So I'd prefer other romances more especially Merrill's romance.

I thought about that particular incident for a while. Originally I wasn't too pleased with it and considered that it might be a mistake, or just something they didn't have a chance to cover during development. However, the more I thought about it, the more I realized that, to Isabela, sex is like a snack you have when you're hungry, and has about as much emotional commitment. When Zevran shows up, it's a snack she's not had in a while that she enjoyed. If she's with Hawke, she does what couples do when there's a snack on the table - she offered to share it. If I offered my girlfriend a snack and she turned it down, I wouldn't feel bad about eating it myself. If my girlfriend asked me not to eat it, I wouldn't eat it either... but I'd probably say "But I'm hungry". And if she said it was fine to share the snack, we'd share the snack.

I loved that she basically seemed surprised that you'd raise an objection to it, at least on the friendship path. Sex and feelings aren't anywhere near as intwined with Isabela as they are with the other LIs, and that's pretty wonderful and refreshing. In the case of Zevran, I don't see it as any different to the Warden propositioning Isabela in DA:O - the Warden may be in love with your LI of choice, but they still want to sleep with the sexy pirate. If they're okay with it, you go off and have a threesome/foursome and a merry time is had by all. If not, you don't. Of course, I may be biased because I basically always chose to, um, acquire the duelist spec that way.

[Lestatman]

obnoxiousgas wrote...

I loved that she basically seemed surprised that you'd raise an objection to it, at least on the friendship path. Sex and feelings aren't anywhere near as intwined with Isabela as they are with the other LIs, and that's pretty wonderful and refreshing. In the case of Zevran, I don't see it as any different to the Warden propositioning Isabela in DA:O - the Warden may be in love with your LI of choice, but they still want to sleep with the sexy pirate. If they're okay with it, you go off and have a threesome/foursome and a merry time is had by all. If not, you don't. Of course, I may be biased because I basically always chose to, um, acquire the duelist spec that way.

Guess that's the fun with the game is that you can make different romance choices.  Quite happy to have her as a friend now rather than romance and stick with romancing the other companions.

[Rabies]

I decided to go after Isabella first. The first thing I like about her is that she's tough and knows how to take care of herself. As was mentioned earlier, she does have a softer side to her. You see it come out sometimes in the conversations with Merrill and the private moment between her and Hawke. The woman, for all her bragging and jesting, really doesn't like herself all that much - doesn't believe herself worthy of a lot of things.

I also just happen to like the dark skinned chicks.

[deadwood1919]

While Merill is the best to romance, Isabela is a lovable character if you treat her as the damaged person she is. Kind of a ****ty Morrigan, if you will. She was harmed by others as a young'en, and regrets harming the one good person from her past.

[Apathy1989]

Rabies wrote...

I decided to go after Isabella first. The first thing I like about her is that she's tough and knows how to take care of herself. As was mentioned earlier, she does have a softer side to her. You see it come out sometimes in the conversations with Merrill and the private moment between her and Hawke. The woman, for all her bragging and jesting, really doesn't like herself all that much - doesn't believe herself worthy of a lot of things.

I also just happen to like the dark skinned chicks.

This.

Also why do people mod isabela to make her white

[Astranagant]

Because she's fun and the alternative is a borderline-autistic, completely retarded giraffe-girl.

Apathy1989 wrote...

Rabies wrote...

I decided to go after Isabella first. The first thing I like about her is that she's tough and knows how to take care of herself. As was mentioned earlier, she does have a softer side to her. You see it come out sometimes in the conversations with Merrill and the private moment between her and Hawke. The woman, for all her bragging and jesting, really doesn't like herself all that much - doesn't believe herself worthy of a lot of things.

I also just happen to like the dark skinned chicks.

This.

Also why do people mod isabela to make her white

Because they're closet or unconscious racists.

All of those people who mod her to be white would never date a dark-skinned woman without telling her to get her skin bleached since they're not into "darkies." As if anyone playing DA2 would have a shot with a black woman anyway.

Modifié par Astranagant, 09 avril 2011 - 06:32 .